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Published: Tuesday, July 31 2012 10:12 p.m. MDT

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Wayne Rout
El Paso, TX

Are they talking about the Riley who played in the TCU game, or was that a different guy?

Tom in CA
Vallejo, CA

Wayne - it's the Riley who played in the TCU game.

toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

Who'd-a-thunk it....??? After one year the rookie Cougar coordinator saw his team earn a season-ending top 25 national ranking and the vaunted Ute coordinator left town to guide another program after failing to get into the inagural "greased path" PAC 12 championship game because they couldn't handle the worst road team in America the last 4 years on their own home field in SLC. Amazing!

CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

I believe Doman will have a breakout Sophomore season. He will establish himself as a solid offensive signal caller. For the Ute trolls - I'm not predicting a perfect season, but I think the Cougs will have a couple of breakthrough victories in a couple of their key contests. A win against ND would go a long way to creating a new rival and a longer term relationship.

Riley will gain plenty of fame with all the exposure on ESPN. He will keep plays alive for an extra second or two with his ability to scrammble, but I think we'll see less of him running up the middle. He'll never be a down the field, pocket passer. But he can be very effective throwing the ball 10 - 20 yards down the field. Hoffman, Apo, Falslev and Mathews may make Riley look even better than he really is.

On offensive, my only concerns are the O line and RB. O line looks solid, but not great. But this should be less of an issue with Nelson. RB is a bigger concern with Q leaving. There's not much experience behind Alisa.

Whoa Nellie
American Fork, UT

After reading this I've got to wonder, what happens with Doman and the offense if Nelson gets injured and beyond this year? Can Doman coach to talent (Heaps) or will he always have to have a Nelson/Doman type quarterback for him to be comfortable as the OC? Riley is a great player and team leader but atypical as a BYU quartback. What's next? I see more growing pains for BYU in the next three years until the offensive coordinator position is as effective as needed.

Chris from Rose Park
PROVO, UT

From last year:

Alisa: Att(85) Yds(455) Avg(5.4) Long(42) TD(3)
Quezada: Att(86) Yds(298) Avg(3.5) Long(15) TD(1)

Quezada's freshman year was better than last year, but it was about equal with Alisa's season. Alisa would have had even more yards but he basically didn't play the first three games. I too would like to have the speed Quezada brings and he definitely would be an asset but best of luck to him. Watching all the games, Alisa was a better RB last year (but I think I heard something about a nagging injury to Quezada). Alisa ran more Unga-esque and I liked that.

I also think Doman will do much better this year. I don't think it'll be perfect and I'm sure there will at least be a couple games where we are frustrated but I think he will be great overall. He can couch talent, let's not forget that he was Heaps' QB coach during his good freshman year. Things just didn't work out last year, it's not a matter of ability in coaching a talented player, IMO.

morpunkt
Glendora, CA

Doman has seen the light. No more predictability on offense. That is what's needed this year and the years to come. The talent can handle the improvisation. I'm looking forward to this year's play calling.

Mildred in Fillmore
Salt Lake City, UT

Doman is terrific and will eventually be recognized as the best offensive coordinator in the country.

kaspercasey
gilbert, AZ

The best unit on the team this year is the defense. The offense just needs to go out there and score in the 20's every game and not turn the ball over and BYU will be pretty good this year.

factcheck
Salt Lake City, UT

I am a die hard BYU fan, but it looks like Doman used Heaps as a scapegoat. Seriously, Doman is a great coordinator and will get better. Switching QBs was not the key. Seriously, does anyone see the obvious? They went on a roll because of the schedule. Those WAC teams, NMSU, SJSU, Hawaii and Idaho were equal. Heaps QB rating was higher in the 1 1/2 games he played when Riley was out. The exact same thing would have happened if Riley started the season and Heaps came in game 4. I hear Heaps was not a team player and stuff like that. That might be true, but the fact remains that Riley was not that impressive. He looked terrible vs. TCU. A late TD on 4th stringers to cut it to 10. He was 17-40 with 2 INTs (should have been 5 pics) vs. Tulsa. Then a late TD drive and he 'Wins' the game. If he was accurate, BYU wins by 4 TDs. Before someone brings up USU, keep in mind the Aggies were up and down in every game. Several come backs and several blown games. Tipped ball for the winning TD.

kaspercasey
gilbert, AZ

Riley was terrible in the TCU game, the punter played just as much a role in the loss though (if not more). He was bad during the tulsa game but he also had a rib broken during the game and played through it, that at least earns him toughness points (Heaps would not have done that). Regardless if you want to hear about the USU game, BYU would have lost it if Heaps was still in. As bad as Riley was at times, Heaps was worse and every time he was hit his game changed completely. Riley is the QB this year so, might as well be positive about it. He is better than Heaps and better than anyone else on the team right now. He just needs to limit the turn overs this year and i think he will be fine.

AlotRed&aBitBlue
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Can somebody explain why the backfield is all messed up? Why is Hague a backup on defense? A proven effective running back, he was a hard hitting fast running back, sidelined when Doman took over the offense. Now he's relegated to backup the Corner and Safety spots while the backfield continues to flounder as an offensive strategy afterthought. What's the thinking there?

factcheck
Salt Lake City, UT

RE:kaspercasey
Riley broke his rib 6 weeks before Tulsa. How do you know Heaps would not have brought them back vs USU? Turbin goes 80 yrd TD to start the game, before Jake took the field. It was 21-13 in the middle of the 3rd when Heaps was yanked. Are you telling me BYU won was because of Riley? On the last drive Jacobson makes an incredible catch and Matthews catches a tipped ball that should have been picked, and it was all Riley? Utah State lead in EVERY game the played, but went 7-6. Auburn: 2 TDs in the final 2 min. They blew a late 4th Q lead to CSU the week before BYU. They blew a 10pt lead to Fresno getting outscored 17-0 in the second half. They were shut out in the 4th v. LaTech blowing yet another lead. They were also shut out in the 4th blowing a lead in their bowl game. They blew a big lead v. Idaho, but pulled it out in OT. They also came from behind in several games. They had a bad half EVERY game. The BYU loss was on USU not Riley.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

put a good passing QB behind center and suddenly Doman's play calling becomes great. The best coach in the world can't compensate for a lousy QB. Nelson has no business playing for the Y. None. Compared to the rich legacy of great QB talent that has wore the block blue Y on their helmet, Nelson barely makes a a decent scout QB. Honestly, this kid was pathetic in the bowl game and only shined against the cut cakes - Idaho, Idaho st. , etc.... Good teams like Boise and Utah are going to blow the Y away this year ... and it's all due to the QB behind center.

Papa Smurf UTE
Herriman, UT

Doman didn't learn through adversity, he learned against weak teams with a pathetic ending schedule. The play calling against a good TCU team was terrible, and the offense stunk. Then against Tulsa the play calling was bad again, except this time, Tulsa was a step up above Idaho, so the Y should win that game. It was close, and came down to almost the last play of the whole game, but they won, and what a great bowl win it was. It was almost worth rushing the field like the fans did against Utah St. I think Doman in his 2nd year will be better, but not great. I think that Brian Johnson will have some of the same struggles as Doman did in year 1, but Johnson has a smarter QB in Wynn, and more offensive weapons to go to than Doman did. Except Johnson doesn't have the 10 built in easy wins that Doman did. The Utes schedule is much more difficult. It will be fun to watch this year. Riley, while a gamer, is not a great QB, and Wynn needs to stay healthy.

kaspercasey
gilbert, AZ

Re:factcheck
You need to check your facts because while Riley did break a rib in the Idaho game he also broke a rib during the Tulsa game, which did not come out until weeks later. Also, i know Heaps would not have come back against USU because he sucked for three quarters badly. I don't know why you are such a Heaps lover but whatever. I don't think Riley is the greatest thing ever but he's okay, he's not as bad as you are making him sound. Look, if he comes out and sucks bad against Utah then i will be off the bandwagon but if he wins that game I'll be a big Riley fan. We'll just have to wait for the season to come to see what kind of QB he can be now that he is getting all the 1st team reps.

Proud Ute
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Riley is a gamer and the reason I will cheer for the Cougars when they're not playing the U.
All I'm hoping for is BJ not have the season long deer in the headlights look that Doman had.

BlueHusky
Mission Viejo, CA

Doman was bad for Heaps. Heaps went downhill as Doman was figuring things out. Heaps probably would have been OK under Anae. Riley Nelson is a gamer. Heaps was not. Hopefully, Doman will do a better job this year. BYU had a really great year in Doman's last year, with All America Staley and Croton's crazy offense. And Riley is like Doman.

It will be interesting to watch this year.

CT98
Saint George, UT

Heaps had his shot and for whatever reason he couldn't perform. I truly wish him luck in Kansas because he's a great young man.
Riley is a great leader but when he gets injured we are in big trouble. I hope Doman is prepping Lark and Munns hard because they will be playing. Riley has been hurt in two of the last three seasons and with his style of play he gets hit by the linebackers much more than the average QB.

factcheck
Salt Lake City, UT

RE: kaspercasey

Sorry, I did not know he broke it against Tulsa. Please tell me it was on the first play, since he had a 42% completion. Of his 17 completions, 3-5 that were only completed because of exceptional plays on the receiving.

Trust me, I am not a Heaps fan, I just think Doman was in over his head and he used Heaps as a scapegoat.

You stated, you know Heaps would not have come back against USU because he ** for three quarters badly. He had not thrown a interception, only down 8 in the 3rd. Yes he was at 44% completion but Riley was at 42% v Tulsa throws a pick in the 3rd and still stayed in the game and brought them back. Lark should have replaced Riley according to your logic.

Pete Thomas, Derek Carr, Tyler Tettleton all played poorly, but were still able to stay in the game and lead their teams to come back victories over USU. How about the third string QB for LaTech who scored 10 in the 4th to beat USU. If these hacks can bring their teams to come from behind victories against USU, but not Heaps? LOL.

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