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BYU football notebook: Future looks bright at tight end position

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  • factcheck Salt Lake City, UT
    July 31, 2012 10:34 a.m.

    Chris B:

    How have the Utes done against the best 8 teams they have played in the last 2 years?

    2010:
    Loss: TCU 7-47
    Loss: Notre Dame 3-28
    Loss: Boise St. 3-26
    2011:
    Loss: USC 14-23
    Loss: Cal 10-34
    Loss: ASU 14-35
    Loss: WA 14-31

    That is 7 blowouts. Not sure who the 8th best team the Utes played. The OT win over Pitt the fluke or the block kick against BYU in 2010? Maybe The OT win over GT in the bowl game. UCLA, Co, Oregon St last year? The Utes would be 1-7 at best.

    Lets take a look at the BYU 0-8 that Chris B continues to post about. BYU lost 3 games last year, so I assume she is going back to 2010. I assume she is counting Texas, FSU, 2 to TCU and 2 to Utah. That is 6. Who are the other 2? Tulsa? Hawaii, who blew out Colorado? Oregon St? AF? Ole Miss?, SDSU?

  • EdGrady Idaho Falls, ID
    July 29, 2012 9:44 p.m.

    I wonder about the play calling.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    July 29, 2012 8:06 p.m.

    When utah loses (big) on 15 Sept it will be a miserable existence up north with egg yolk flowing in the streets.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    July 29, 2012 8:01 p.m.

    Given that the crrent offense rarely uses the tight end and there is no one to throw the ball it seems unlikely any of the tight ends will have much of a career at BYU.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    July 29, 2012 7:54 p.m.

    @ Chris B. And Harline is STILL open in the end zone!

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    July 29, 2012 7:10 p.m.

    RE: panamadesnews

    You're thinking of Paul Lasike who is fighting for a backup RB slot. He's a bruiser and should see some time this season. Ray Forrester, also on the rugby team, is a defensive lineman for the cougs.

  • Rufus1 Highland, UT
    July 29, 2012 7:10 p.m.

    The Ute fans (in this particular case Chris B) love to point out how BYU has struggled at key moments against good teams. Hello pot. Kettle just called. Need we re-hash the Washington game or the TCU wither like unwatered grass game of late? Should we bother bringing up the Notre Dame fiasco? My Ute fan's flag was flown at half mast for that week. Let's be real with each other. Both teams have faced and come off victors against great teams. Credit should be given for the Alabama victory and other impressive bowl game victories from your end. There were times in the past admittedly both teams would have wished for better results. Before hurling out the insults Chris B., kindly take a closer look in the mirror.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    July 29, 2012 2:12 p.m.

    Who is the dude who also plays on the rugby team as well as the football team? Wonder how he is doing? Is he a running back? Someone in the know please comment. Thanks.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    July 29, 2012 1:04 p.m.

    Pretty much #1 in Tide Ends every years.

  • Disgruntled Nephi, UT
    July 29, 2012 1:00 p.m.

    Wiscougarfan, well said. LOL at Chris B.

  • RepresentBlue West Jordan, UT
    July 29, 2012 11:55 a.m.

    I think the TEs will take a big step forward this season, with Matthews leading the way. Matthews is hungry and has the physical tools to be great and I think Nelson will be looking for the TE's more often this season, in both designed plays and improvised plays. Its gonna be exciting to watch Nelson, Hoffman, Apo, Falslev, Matthews, etc. So many weapons, as long as Nelson can stay healthy.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    July 29, 2012 11:03 a.m.

    The Utes didn't win those games. Somewhere there was a couch, a stadium, roads, and bridges for the team to get around. Because you beat Montana State, you think you're smart and worked hard.

    There's alot of smart teams that worked hard. Don't didn't win those game.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    July 29, 2012 8:28 a.m.

    Gee, Chris, what a coincidence. Utah is 0-8 against the best teams they played in the last two years also. And I'll predict the big one too, mark it down: Utah 24 - BYU 28, with Riley pulling out another final one minute drive to score with less than 15 seconds to play.

    See, my imagination is every bit as good as yours.

    Now, back to the article, with Riley's ability to extend the play, look for more action to the tight ends. Hoff will frequently be double teamed, with the rest of the weapons on the field, the tight ends should frequently draw the weakest coverage.

  • PAC12Fan South Jordan, UT
    July 29, 2012 8:06 a.m.

    Some good tight ends have gone to BYU. Looks like they have a few more.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    July 29, 2012 8:04 a.m.

    @Chris B - Not sure if you've looked at the Utes record, but U are also 0-8 against the 8 best teams U played the past two years. That's assumnig you count Colorado as one of the top 8 teams U played. BYU will not lose to the Utes this year, and we will have three years to savor our victory.

    This group of TE may be the most highly ranked TE's BYU has ever recruited. I think it proves a valuable point - college experience is more important than high school ranking. We went from two seniors (Pitta and George) to a bunch of TE's two years ago. I believe we spread the reps too evenly trying to keep them all happy, when we should have focused on two or three. I hope we can settle on two who get the majority of reps this year and begin to perform like TE's of old.

    Mathews has always had great hands. I am most excited to see how he is able to block with the extra pounds he's added. I heard his goal is to get to 235 by the first game.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    July 29, 2012 7:00 a.m.

    Stating that any team is 0-whatever against the best teams they've played is the dumbest thing I've heard in a long time. News flash Chris B, all teams are 0-something to the best teams they play... USC is 0-5 to the best five teams they've played in the last decade. Michigan is 0-8 to the best teams they've played in the last six years. Alabama is 0-3 to the best teams they've played since 1952. See, it's easy. Just pick a number for the loss column and an arbitrary span of years and you can do this for any team. We can go even further with this... the PAC10/12 is 0-57 against the best teams they've played since their inception. Pretty nifty, eh.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    July 29, 2012 12:19 a.m.

    Chris B,

    Thanks for the prediction. Since you're usually wrong--BYU will win, and the utes will be jinxed.

    Cougs----42
    Utes-----17

    Count on it--you don't have to mark it down.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    July 28, 2012 11:53 p.m.

    This team sounds they should take another run at a national championship. Never mind byu is 0-8 against the 8 best teams the past two years. Utah, Boise, notre dame, Texas, and Georgia tech. This byu team will have over achieved if they win one of these five games. I will predict the big one now. Utah 34 byu 13. Riley 4 turnovers. Mark it down!

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    July 28, 2012 11:34 p.m.

    Even since Dennis Pitta and Andrew George left, it's not like there has been a talent or a depth issue at tight end. It's not like the tight ends BYU has had aren't talented enough or that we need more tight ends. The problem has, #1, been injuries, and #2, the tight ends not getting enough touches. So hopefully BYU can figure out a way to get all of these talented tight ends, particularly Austin Holt, Richard Wilson, and Marcus Matthews as many touches as possible.