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Published: Thursday, July 26 2012 12:00 a.m. MDT

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John C. C.
Payson, UT

Those who oppose the Common Core need to be more specific about their claims that Utah will be locked into Federal control. The way I read the documents, Utah may modify its curriculum to meet the goals we have agreed to or opt out if we change our minds.

Please name the documents and give the locations of the words in them that you claim turn the Common Core into handcuffs.

one old man
Ogden, UT

Oh, Good Grief!

So much nonsense in so few words.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

Anytime one needs to include the Berlin Wall in an article about the Common Core they lose all credibility in my mind.

Autumn Cook
Lehi, UT

Great article! The author does a great job of illustrating how the Common Core push is the replacement controlling mechanism for NCLB. Kudos to Iowa for choosing to honor the wishes of Iowans and maintain local control of their education system, rather than buckle to Federal pressure and do what Washington experts think is best for them. I hope they can keep it up!

one old man
Ogden, UT

If anyone would take the time and make the effort to actually compare the present Utah Curriculum Standards with Common Core, they'd see a whole lot of similarities.

If anything, Common Core just adjusts some of our present standards upward a bit.

If Utah's present Common Core is okay, why isn't this one?

Oak
Highland, UT

Utah's math core from 2007 was rated an A- by the Fordham Foundation. Common Core math was also rated an A- by them after they received several hundred thousand dollars from the Gates Foundation to review it. Gates has put over $100 million into Common Core development and promotion. The CC standards had one mathematician participate in writing them who stated at completion that the standards weren't very high, certainly not akin to high achieving countries, and there was one professional mathematician on the review committee who refused to sign off on the CC math standards because they are 2 years behind high achieving countries. Fordham has acknowledged that several states had superior standards to CC. If you visit the Utahns Against Common Core site and look for the posts mentioning Milgram and Stotsky, you'll find reviews of the standards from experts in standards writing which illustrate this. Utah agreed to adopt CC in order to apply for Race to the Top money, prior to CC even being written. This was never about raising standards, it was about grabbing the golden carrot the feds dangled.

Autumn Cook
Lehi, UT

I agree with one old man that the Common Core standards adjust some of our former standards upward a bit, but it also adjusts some downward. For example, Algebra I was taken by most students in 8th grade under the old core. Under CC, they take it in 9th grade. It doesn't take much figuring to realize that most students won't get to study as much math when the subjects have been moved up a grade. And I think that shifting the reading focus of high schoolers to informational texts and away from literature is a lowering of standards.

But the real issue is that I don't have a say in these no matter what I think. Experts in a Washington DC think tank came up with these unamendable standards, and now my state has agreed to abide by the policy decisions of those distant experts. There are many things I would change about these standards if I were influencing the curriculum - as I should be via my local school board - but it doesn't matter under Common Core, because the say so has been removed from me as a parent, and handed to the distant experts.

Chuck E. Racer
Lehi, UT

I want real standards, not standardization. Conservatives called for standards. Liberals manipulate that into standardization, because that's what socialism is all about.

Standards created by the local parents and teachers will mean something and be worked toward. National standardization will be ridiculed and everything under heaven tried to avoid them or circumvent them!

What in Tucket?
Provo, UT

All children should have a voucher. NO public schools as in the Netherlands. THis would save money and poor schools would have to close. Now we just put more money in failure.

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