Spokane UteReasonably fair comment. But even if you ARE in a BCS
conference, REAL BCS bowls are few and far between. Uncommitted bowl games, ie
bowls that can make a commitment to a single team, are few and far between.
I'm not unhappy with this arrangement. If we finish 11-1, that could
change, but hard to be too upset if we finish 11-1.
More utah "fan" stupidity1st it was BYU can't schedule
anyone good, but then BYU went and scheduled Texas, Notre Dame, Boise St,
Georgia Tech, Nebraska, West Virginia, Houston, Wisconsin,In
otherwords utah "fans" were wrong.Then it was "BYU
can't schedule anyone good in November but then they got Notre Dame in
November, and Wisconsin in November, Boise will sometimes be in November.Now it's "BYU can't get good bowl games".Well utah "fan" predictions have not had a very good track record of
turning out the way they wish they would. I won't worry about this
lets be honest BYU fans....you lose money going to san diego $500,00 is a very
small pay out..1 loss and thats your bowl game...Utah can lose a game and still
play for the NC!! BYU needs to beg the big 10!!!
Okay, so the Poinsettia is not the most attractive bowl game, but it is far from
the worst and this is only year 2 of independence. I think Holmoe has done an
incredible job of lining up opponents so far, including bowl games. Is there
room for improvement? Definitely! But ask yourself, would their bowl situation
be any better if they were still in the MWC where if you go 12-0 you are in a
BCS bowl, but if you are 11-1 you are in the Vegas Bowl. Personally, I prefer
the Poinsettia Bowl over the Vegas Bowl as San Diego is a much more attractive
destination than Lost Wages, and it is the worst they could possibly do as long
as they are bowl eligible, while in the MWC they could get an even lesser bowl
if they have a 6-6 or 7-5 record.
Kim and Joe,Too much wishful thinking.Although now
independent, BYU still has a LONG way to go to sign agreements with several
bowls and then wait to see who wants them the most, a la Notre Dame. Until then
(if ever), it'll be a continual series of Helicopter/New
Mexico/Poinsettia/Irrelevant Bowls if they don't go undefeated over a
really strong schedule.Good luck with that.
Okay - Lets all be real here. Its true that BYU is playing in minor bowls for a
few years. That is the price of admission to a successful Indy run. In a few
years will this still be the case. No.There will be bigger bowls
and bigger pay offs. No worry. Oh and as for splits if BYU ever
does make it to a big game the dollar value will be unmatched. Time will tell.
Finding a good bowl game to land in was one of the most difficult aspects of
going independent. It will take some time, but as the program continues to get
more exposure, the prospects should improve. Everyone knew going independent
was going to be difficult the first few years, but over the long run it will
prove to be a wise choice. Already we see the schedule improving.
What's so moronic about all of these Ute posts is that BYU and Utah have
the same probability of going to a BCS game this year - 0%. At least the BYU
fans are realistic about this fact. Even if the Utes finish second in the PAC
South as you are predicted, that still counts you out of a BCS bowl game. If
you're not in a BCS bowl game, then the next best thing is San Diego in
Ugh! This comment thread is the worst. I suggest AZute and 17-14 both give it a
rest. We only have a few more weeks to go til we are on the field.
AZute117-14, in your precious RES, hands down, Colorado's
easiest win last season."Need a tissue?"LOL
"With the outside chance of qualifying for a BCS game...."Funniest thing I've read in a while....Enjoy the "Big-Time" in
San Diego, byu fans....LOL.54-10 on byu's
homefield....Hands-down, UTAH's easiest win last year.
I decide to read a nice article about the Cougars, only to discover a bunch of
Ute fans that OD'd on hate pills this morning. I barely have enough time to
follow my team, let alone venture into the blog world of the Utes (but
don't worry, they will track you down). BTW, San Diego is a
great place to visit at that time of the year. With the outside chance of
qualifying for a BCS game, I'll do my best to catch the game. I'm
looking forward to a fun year!
We made the Holiday Bowl into what it is today. Now we'll increase the
prestige of this bowl game.
Did some digging and will correct my previous post. Last years
bowl revenues for the PAC-12 came to 30,685,500 not over 40 mil as I estimated.
Apparently the second BCS game makes substantially less than the first.
Expenses were estimated at 10 mil, so that leaves 20.6 mil net for the coffers
of the PAC-12. Less than 2 mil per team, bowl game or not...but still far
greater than the 500k BYU will get for the Poinsettia. Also, if you based
BYU's expenses on what the PAC-12 had for the Holiday Bowl, BYU will lose
money participating in the Poinsettia Bowl.I'm glad they
don't have to share that loss with anybody.
San Diego is America's finest city. Ranking just ahead of Provo.
@ Real BassYeah, BYU fans never troll Utah articles and take shots
at the Utes. Sorry but 54-10 certainly defines little Bro and Big Bro.As far as the article goes, it's tough on BYU to be locked into the
Poinsettia bowl. Whether they go 11-1 or 8-4, they end up at the same place. Not
to mention the lowest payout of any bowl (3 bowls pay out $500K). If you are not
in a BCS conference, the bowl slots are far and few between; and not divided out
Well isn't it interesting to see so many hill children taking shots here.
We don't play anymore, so stop the obsession already, lil bro.
This is a spin on a no winsituation. BYU should be looking for a better
opportunity. Hooray, we won 6 games and are going to the Poinsettia
Bowl! Hooray we won 11 games and we are going to the Poinsettia
Bowl? Just here to have fun? I guess that is right.
@CougFaninTXWhat you neglected to figure in your logic of PAC-12
revenue sharing is that there may be 7 teams from the PAC-12 going to bowl games
and pulling in money. Last year they put two teams in BCS bowls. I don't
know how they split the money, but, if they do split it evenly amongst all 12
teams (as you suggested), before expenses, then you probably need to figure more
than 40 million for last year, not 7.2 mil. So, that would be somewhere between
3 and 4 million per school...even if they didn't go to a bowl.In the future, the Rose Bowl is set to pay 80 mil. So, when the Rose is not
one of the semifinal games the PAC-12 will make 40 mil just from that game.As for the Poinsettia, I'm thinking a game against one of the MWC
teams might not be the draw that they (SD Bowl people) think it will be.
Personally, I think it's pretty lame. That will be about the ninth best
game on BYU's schedule.
Wow...BYU playing Wyoming for $500k two weeks before the BCS series. I
can't think of anything more exciting. We had better matchups and payouts
30 years ago. I just read Pres. Kimball's vision of BYU's second
century and wanting us to raise the bar. The Athletic dept. needs to set their
sights soooooooooooo much higher. We just seem to be satisfied with mediocrity.
...why Utah fans are taking shots at the poinsettia? Wasn't this the bowl
that provided year over year cupcakes to the Utes to help them build their
inglorious bowl winning streak?
DuckhuntedTypical small-minded "bcs"er - always obsessed
with $$$, but absolutely clueless about the real purpose for going to a bowl -
to have fun!
Duckhunted - you're about right on the payout, but what you forget is that
there is no revenue sharing as an independent. BYU keeps it all. $600,000 as
an independent is about the same as going to a $7,200,000 bowl as a member of a
12 team conference after the revenue sharing arrangements.The rumor
is that the Holiday Bowl is looking to move up in the Big12 or find another
partner. Getting the 5th place team in a 10 team Big12 is not the same as
getting the 5th place team in the old 12 team Big12. If the Holiday Bowl
can't move up to the 3rd or 4th place team in the Big12, BYU could have a
shot at moving into the Holiday Bowl in 2014 or 15.
What an awesome bowl game!! The second place MWC team vs the WAC champion!!!
Independence rocks...Umm didn't BYU make more money last year in their bowl
game!! Didn't they make $600,000 last year??
San Diego is a fun place to visit for the holidays.Looking forward
to the site of the Miracle Bowl, Steve Young's game winning touchdown
CATCH, and BYU's first major college football National Championship!