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Published: Monday, July 23 2012 8:14 p.m. MDT

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CougarBlue
Heber City, UT

Dear UtaCountyute yes, the best defense is on the Hill, that is Hill Air Force base, not on Ft. Douglas surroundings.

gonefishn
Salt Lake City, UT

Every year around this time articles start coming out about the improved secondary and all the depth at the position. Every year it proves to be illusion. This is not a good match up for the Y.
@ Still Blue after all these years
I totally concur, if the Y can sustain drives, eat clock and finish with points they should be alright. If the Y cannot keep WSU's offense off the field it will be a long day for BYU.

WisCoug
MOUNT HOREB, WI

@CT98
Yes, Chambers rejoined the team and is playing DB. Whether or no he makes the field much is questionable, but his stone hands (a nick-name based on his complete inability to catch a football) may come in handy batting down balls if he does.

From the article: "Jeff Tuel completed 19-of-21 passes for 285 yards and two touchdowns."

Why not more comments about the possibility that Nelson, Hoffman, and Apo will go crazy on what sounds like a VERY weak secondary/pass defense on the side of the WSU Cougars? Tuel's stat line from two years ago (his last full year on the field) is not so different from Nelson's numbers last year (even with an injury and only starting half the season).

I don't think it is wise to look past anybody in college football, but WSU is not good and I will be embarrassed if BYU loses.

ClarkHippo
Tooele, UT

@teleste Austin, TX

You said, and I quote -

"WSU by 30.
Write it down.
The Pirate Ship will sail in Provo and Broadside BYU."

Okay, I've got your quote written down. Date, time and article.

So if BYU wins we'll see if you own up to your prediction, OR, just like all the Ute fans before last season, included Chris B who said:

"Utah is going to go undefeated and win the national championship. Write it down, Mark it down."

Only to come back later and say,

"We never said that."

This year I'm going to keep better track of all the Ute fan predictions.

ClarkHippo
Tooele, UT

To my fellow Cougar fans.

This Washington State team is good so don't think for a second this game is going to be a cake walk.

Remember last season when a certain team from Colorado went on the road and played a certain team from Utah and that team from Utah assumed all they had to do was show up and they'd win?

Do we want that to happen to us this year?

I sure don't.

BigCougar
Bountiful, UT

@motorbike
"This game should be a breeze for BYU ... afterall, this is one of the pathetic weak teams from the bottom half of the Pac 12 right? Nothing to worry about for mighty BYU."

First games are never a breeze, teams tend to be a little hesitant. I think defensively BYU will be up for it, offensively is another question. Under Bronco we have a tendency to start seasons slowly and underperform on offense.

WSU is rolling out a new offensive scheme and hopefully they have some kinks still to work out in that first game. Tuell is a good QB and WSU likely would have beaten the pants off of Utah last year had he been available. Injuries decimated the WSU QB depth chart and they played a 4th string true freshman against Utah. A couple of rookie mistakes in the 4th Q bailed you guys out and allowed you to get to OT.

Defensively they're not very good and we're at home so several factors lean our way in this game. One huge factor that's hard to ignore is Mike Leach being a former BYU coach and mentee of Lavell. Could be big.

BigCougar
Bountiful, UT

@CT98
"I've heard rumors that Oneil Chambers may rejoin the team and play in the defensive secondary. Any truth to that?"

Yes, OC is in the mix for making the 2 deep in the secondary, possibly playing corner.

Cougar Claws
Lindon, UT

This will be a tough test for BYU and I think WSU will put up some numbers through the air. It wouldn't shock me to see WSU pass for 300 yards or so this game, but that is decent defense for BYU considering that WSU will probably throw the ball 60 times, which would mean that would equal a 5 yards per completion average. Besides which, WSU won't really have a running game to speak of. Also WSU isn't exactly a defensive powerhouse. I would hope BYU would put up some points against this team.

With all that said, this will be a tough matchup for BYU, but BYU is perfectly capable of winning this game. I don't think BYU will "dominate" WSU as some of the well-intentioned yet unrealistic fans seem to think. But there is no reason not to favor BYU in this game. I like BYU at home, with a strong defense to counter the air raid, and a solid BYU offense against a less than spectacular WSU defense. BYU has faced passing teams like NMSU, TCU, Tulsa, and Hawaii. I think a likely score could be BYU 28, WSU 21.

idablu
Idaho Falls, ID

From the article: "I like when teams try to attack the secondary and throw the ball 60 times a game,"

Careful what you wish for. Due to lack of speed, BYU secondary has NEVER been a strong point. Confidence is fine but their statements are a little to cocky for me. One thing I know for sure: Leach knows how to score touchdowns through the air. Unless they simply have really bad players, WSU will give BYU everything they can handle.

kaspercasey
gilbert, AZ

I also think BYU wins a close one at home. I hope for a blowout but BYU has been slow to get started on offense the last couple of years. Hope this year is different though with a senior quarterback. We'll see.

PAC12Fan
South Jordan, UT

To Clark Hippo who is writing 2012 predictions:;

1. BYU will go to the Poinsettia Bowl whether they win 6 or 11 games.
2. BYU will lose big to Utah, Notre Dame, Boise State and Georgia Tech.
3. BYU fans will be happy to be playing the MWC team in the poinsettia bowl. Nope!
4. No conference will invite BYU to their conference.
5. The gap between Utah and BYU football programs will continue to increase.
6. BYU will transmit games to all the fans in Guatemala.
7. The sun will still come out.

Mark it down!

wazzucoug
seattle , WA

WSU is going to be way better than your fans think. They had their starting QB for 3 plays in the opener, 1 game against Stanford when he should not have played and for a half against Oregon State when his leg was injured in a freak play(look up compartment syndrome) They were 3 points and an overtime game(didn't Utah win by 50 against Byu?) aware from a bowl with a back up QB's and still finished 9th in the nation in passing yards per game. The defense was 6th in the PAC 12 overall and less two guys kicked off by Leach for being idiots returns the entire 3 deep. The offense lost 1 WR and 1 lineman and returns the entire 3 deep. I hope your DB's are are tall and fast as well cause Leach will play 8 and the are all tall and can fly. We might not win, but this ain't gonna be a cake walk as successful coaches like Leach do not go to jobs where they will lose.

Google Jeff Tuel dominate Crimson and gray game and watch the video, he is good.

Utah-Hawaii Alum
Dallas, TX

Wazzu is a big time sleeper. They have some seriously speedy talent on that team. Tuell with carve up BYu's pathetic secondary like a Xmas goose. Wazzu by 21+ points.

Cougar Claws
Lindon, UT

Re: Utah Hawaii Alum

I've actually heard Wazzu is one of the slower teams in the Pac-12 so I don't know where you got that information. I'm not saying they are, that's just what I've heard from other people.

BYU might have a "pathetic" secondary, but BYU was ranked higher in pass and pass efficiency defense last year than the mighty Ute's defense. Make no mistake Wazzu will be good throwing the football, but if I had to choose a pathetic BYU secondary to go up against this team, I'm glad it's a pathetic secondary that has Preston Hadley, Joe Sampson, Jordan Johnson and Daniel Sorensen as the projected starters, all of which average 6'0" tall and average 4.45 40 times collectively. Two have scored touchdowns on turnovers, and three have interceptions. It also doesn't hurt having linebackers Kyle Van Noy and Spencer Hadley that can blitz the quarterback either. BYU faced balanced offenses last year that could run the football well and throw the football in TCU and Tulsa. BYU held a much more athletic TCU team to 272 total yards of offense last year.

Utah-Hawaii Alum
Dallas, TX

@Cougar Claws,

You are dead wrong sir. And, I could really care less about BYu's bogus defensive stats. The Y played a terrible schedule. USU, Utah, TCU, UCF and Tulsa all moved the ball against BYu.

CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

Leach has big motivation to win this game, beacause it's his first game back as a coach and it's against his alma mater.

Playing a team like WSU is a wildcard, with a new coach. Crowton delivered an exceptional year at BYU in year 1 before he crashed and burned. Other head coaches like Neuheisel never got their team to respond. Leach was loved and hated by his players at Tech. Nobody knows how the team will respond to his leadership. I think WSU has the talent to finish in the Top half of the PAC12 this year, if the team embraces the changes of a new coach.

I'm a BYU Coug through and through, but I don't think we have the best D in the country. Although this may be the best defensive unit we've ever had at BYU. Van Noy may be the only superstar, but every player is solid.

I also agree that the offense is the key to this win. If our offense is on the field at least 10 minutes more than WSU's offense, we have a good chance of walking away with a W.

Papa Smurf UTE
Herriman, UT

The Y has never had a good secondary, and if Tuel can come in and runs Leach's offense, the Y will get beat. The Bronc has a great track record of losing games to start out the season. This may be one of them. The Y's defense starts with Van Noy. He is their only real threat on D. If WSU's O line can contain him, and the RB can pick up his possible blitz packages, the Y's defense will be in for a looooong afternoon. I believe that the Y can win this game, with it being at home, but it will be a lot closer than the Y fans expect it to be. Then, if the Y actually loses this game, the spin that will come from Provostan will be epic. They will have lost to a bottom feeding, Pac 10.2 pathetic team. Off to the Poinsettia bowl.

ClarkHippo
Tooele, UT

@PAC12Fan
South Jordan, UT

Got it! :0)

Thank you my friend.

Utah-Hawaii Alum
Dallas, TX

@ Papa,

BYu doesn't have the athletes or depth to beat Wazzu. Leach will just whoop them, badly!

Cougar Claws
Lindon, UT

Re: Utah Hawaii Alum

"You are dead wrong sir."

Um . . . about what? I checked my facts and . . . nope, all of them are accurate. So perhaps you are "dead wrong" about me being "dead wrong."

BYU didn't play a "terrible" schedule. BYU faced some pretty good offenses: Utah State, UCF, New Mexico State, Hawaii, TCU and Tulsa all had very good offensive teams. Some were run heavy like Utah State and UCF, while others were pass heavy like New Mexico State and Hawaii, while some were very potent and balanced like TCU and Tulsa.

"USU, Utah, TCU, UCF, and Tulsa all moved the ball against BYU."

'Moved the ball?' SO WHAT? Lots of teams 'move the ball' in football. Montana St. 'moved the ball' against Utah's defense so I don't know what your point is.

"Bronco has a horrible track record of losing games to start the season."

Bronco Mendenhall has won every season opener in his coaching tenure since 2007 so I don't know what you're talking about.

"depth and athletes bleah bleah bleah"

That argument has been refuted how many dozens of times at BYU? What else can you be wrong about?

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