RunnerChandler, AZ"Motorbike...yes you are correct. BYU should
win this game because it is against a bottom tier team of the most overrated
conference in the country."Runner: If you are basing your
comments on last year, try looking at the only head to head match-up that counts
from last year and tell me with a straight face that "BYU should win this
game because it is against a bottom tier team..."2011
Results:BYU lost to Utah at home 54-10.WAZZU lost to
Utah at home in overtime 30-27.BYU will get owned on Aug. 30th.
Re: Utah Hawaii Alum"You are dead wrong sir."Um
. . . about what? I checked my facts and . . . nope, all of them are accurate.
So perhaps you are "dead wrong" about me being "dead wrong."BYU didn't play a "terrible" schedule. BYU faced some
pretty good offenses: Utah State, UCF, New Mexico State, Hawaii, TCU and Tulsa
all had very good offensive teams. Some were run heavy like Utah State and UCF,
while others were pass heavy like New Mexico State and Hawaii, while some were
very potent and balanced like TCU and Tulsa."USU, Utah, TCU,
UCF, and Tulsa all moved the ball against BYU."'Moved the
ball?' SO WHAT? Lots of teams 'move the ball' in football.
Montana St. 'moved the ball' against Utah's defense so I
don't know what your point is. "Bronco has a horrible track
record of losing games to start the season."Bronco Mendenhall
has won every season opener in his coaching tenure since 2007 so I don't
know what you're talking about. "depth and athletes bleah
bleah bleah"That argument has been refuted how many dozens of
times at BYU? What else can you be wrong about?
@ Papa,BYu doesn't have the athletes or depth to beat Wazzu.
Leach will just whoop them, badly!
@PAC12FanSouth Jordan, UTGot it! :0)Thank you my
The Y has never had a good secondary, and if Tuel can come in and runs
Leach's offense, the Y will get beat. The Bronc has a great track record of
losing games to start out the season. This may be one of them. The Y's
defense starts with Van Noy. He is their only real threat on D. If WSU's O
line can contain him, and the RB can pick up his possible blitz packages, the
Y's defense will be in for a looooong afternoon. I believe that the Y can
win this game, with it being at home, but it will be a lot closer than the Y
fans expect it to be. Then, if the Y actually loses this game, the spin that
will come from Provostan will be epic. They will have lost to a bottom feeding,
Pac 10.2 pathetic team. Off to the Poinsettia bowl.
Leach has big motivation to win this game, beacause it's his first game
back as a coach and it's against his alma mater. Playing a
team like WSU is a wildcard, with a new coach. Crowton delivered an exceptional
year at BYU in year 1 before he crashed and burned. Other head coaches like
Neuheisel never got their team to respond. Leach was loved and hated by his
players at Tech. Nobody knows how the team will respond to his leadership. I
think WSU has the talent to finish in the Top half of the PAC12 this year, if
the team embraces the changes of a new coach.I'm a BYU Coug
through and through, but I don't think we have the best D in the country.
Although this may be the best defensive unit we've ever had at BYU. Van
Noy may be the only superstar, but every player is solid. I also
agree that the offense is the key to this win. If our offense is on the field
at least 10 minutes more than WSU's offense, we have a good chance of
walking away with a W.
@Cougar Claws,You are dead wrong sir. And, I could really care less
about BYu's bogus defensive stats. The Y played a terrible schedule. USU,
Utah, TCU, UCF and Tulsa all moved the ball against BYu.
Re: Utah Hawaii Alum I've actually heard Wazzu is one of the
slower teams in the Pac-12 so I don't know where you got that information.
I'm not saying they are, that's just what I've heard from other
people.BYU might have a "pathetic" secondary, but BYU was
ranked higher in pass and pass efficiency defense last year than the mighty
Ute's defense. Make no mistake Wazzu will be good throwing the football,
but if I had to choose a pathetic BYU secondary to go up against this team,
I'm glad it's a pathetic secondary that has Preston Hadley, Joe
Sampson, Jordan Johnson and Daniel Sorensen as the projected starters, all of
which average 6'0" tall and average 4.45 40 times collectively. Two
have scored touchdowns on turnovers, and three have interceptions. It also
doesn't hurt having linebackers Kyle Van Noy and Spencer Hadley that can
blitz the quarterback either. BYU faced balanced offenses last year that could
run the football well and throw the football in TCU and Tulsa. BYU held a much
more athletic TCU team to 272 total yards of offense last year.
Wazzu is a big time sleeper. They have some seriously speedy talent on that
team. Tuell with carve up BYu's pathetic secondary like a Xmas goose. Wazzu
by 21+ points.
WSU is going to be way better than your fans think. They had their starting QB
for 3 plays in the opener, 1 game against Stanford when he should not have
played and for a half against Oregon State when his leg was injured in a freak
play(look up compartment syndrome) They were 3 points and an overtime
game(didn't Utah win by 50 against Byu?) aware from a bowl with a back up
QB's and still finished 9th in the nation in passing yards per game. The
defense was 6th in the PAC 12 overall and less two guys kicked off by Leach for
being idiots returns the entire 3 deep. The offense lost 1 WR and 1 lineman and
returns the entire 3 deep. I hope your DB's are are tall and fast as well
cause Leach will play 8 and the are all tall and can fly. We might not win,
but this ain't gonna be a cake walk as successful coaches like Leach do not
go to jobs where they will lose. Google Jeff Tuel dominate Crimson
and gray game and watch the video, he is good.
To Clark Hippo who is writing 2012 predictions:;1. BYU will go to
the Poinsettia Bowl whether they win 6 or 11 games. 2. BYU will lose big
to Utah, Notre Dame, Boise State and Georgia Tech.3. BYU fans will be
happy to be playing the MWC team in the poinsettia bowl. Nope!4. No
conference will invite BYU to their conference. 5. The gap between Utah
and BYU football programs will continue to increase. 6. BYU will transmit
games to all the fans in Guatemala. 7. The sun will still come out. Mark it down!
I also think BYU wins a close one at home. I hope for a blowout but BYU has been
slow to get started on offense the last couple of years. Hope this year is
different though with a senior quarterback. We'll see.
From the article: "I like when teams try to attack the secondary and throw
the ball 60 times a game," Careful what you wish for. Due to
lack of speed, BYU secondary has NEVER been a strong point. Confidence is fine
but their statements are a little to cocky for me. One thing I know for sure:
Leach knows how to score touchdowns through the air. Unless they simply have
really bad players, WSU will give BYU everything they can handle.
This will be a tough test for BYU and I think WSU will put up some numbers
through the air. It wouldn't shock me to see WSU pass for 300 yards or so
this game, but that is decent defense for BYU considering that WSU will probably
throw the ball 60 times, which would mean that would equal a 5 yards per
completion average. Besides which, WSU won't really have a running game to
speak of. Also WSU isn't exactly a defensive powerhouse. I would hope BYU
would put up some points against this team. With all that said, this
will be a tough matchup for BYU, but BYU is perfectly capable of winning this
game. I don't think BYU will "dominate" WSU as some of the
well-intentioned yet unrealistic fans seem to think. But there is no reason not
to favor BYU in this game. I like BYU at home, with a strong defense to counter
the air raid, and a solid BYU offense against a less than spectacular WSU
defense. BYU has faced passing teams like NMSU, TCU, Tulsa, and Hawaii. I think
a likely score could be BYU 28, WSU 21.
@CT98"I've heard rumors that Oneil Chambers may rejoin the team
and play in the defensive secondary. Any truth to that?"Yes, OC
is in the mix for making the 2 deep in the secondary, possibly playing corner.
@motorbike"This game should be a breeze for BYU ... afterall, this is
one of the pathetic weak teams from the bottom half of the Pac 12 right? Nothing
to worry about for mighty BYU."First games are never a breeze,
teams tend to be a little hesitant. I think defensively BYU will be up for it,
offensively is another question. Under Bronco we have a tendency to start
seasons slowly and underperform on offense.WSU is rolling out a new
offensive scheme and hopefully they have some kinks still to work out in that
first game. Tuell is a good QB and WSU likely would have beaten the pants off of
Utah last year had he been available. Injuries decimated the WSU QB depth chart
and they played a 4th string true freshman against Utah. A couple of rookie
mistakes in the 4th Q bailed you guys out and allowed you to get to OT. Defensively they're not very good and we're at home so several
factors lean our way in this game. One huge factor that's hard to ignore is
Mike Leach being a former BYU coach and mentee of Lavell. Could be big.
To my fellow Cougar fans. This Washington State team is good so
don't think for a second this game is going to be a cake walk.Remember last season when a certain team from Colorado went on the road and
played a certain team from Utah and that team from Utah assumed all they had to
do was show up and they'd win?Do we want that to happen to us
this year? I sure don't.
@teleste Austin, TXYou said, and I quote -"WSU by
30.Write it down.The Pirate Ship will sail in Provo and Broadside
BYU."Okay, I've got your quote written down. Date, time and
article.So if BYU wins we'll see if you own up to your
prediction, OR, just like all the Ute fans before last season, included Chris B
who said:"Utah is going to go undefeated and win the national
championship. Write it down, Mark it down." Only to come back
later and say,"We never said that." This year
I'm going to keep better track of all the Ute fan predictions.
@CT98Yes, Chambers rejoined the team and is playing DB. Whether or no he
makes the field much is questionable, but his stone hands (a nick-name based on
his complete inability to catch a football) may come in handy batting down balls
if he does.From the article: "Jeff Tuel completed 19-of-21
passes for 285 yards and two touchdowns."Why not more comments
about the possibility that Nelson, Hoffman, and Apo will go crazy on what sounds
like a VERY weak secondary/pass defense on the side of the WSU Cougars?
Tuel's stat line from two years ago (his last full year on the field) is
not so different from Nelson's numbers last year (even with an injury and
only starting half the season).I don't think it is wise to look
past anybody in college football, but WSU is not good and I will be embarrassed
if BYU loses.
Every year around this time articles start coming out about the improved
secondary and all the depth at the position. Every year it proves to be
illusion. This is not a good match up for the Y.@ Still Blue after all
these yearsI totally concur, if the Y can sustain drives, eat clock and
finish with points they should be alright. If the Y cannot keep WSU's
offense off the field it will be a long day for BYU.
Dear UtaCountyute yes, the best defense is on the Hill, that is Hill Air Force
base, not on Ft. Douglas surroundings.
I've heard rumors that Oneil Chambers may rejoin the team and play in the
defensive secondary. Any truth to that?
There is no book on WSU with an Air Raid offense. Nobody knows what to expect.
This looks like a trap game to me. But I'm expecting BYU to lose 4 games
this year. I don't think anybody could play this schedule and not lose a
few. These big road games are scary.BYU, like Utah, has stepped up.
Last year's 8-5 record for the Utes is probably a good forecast for this
season.Neither team is ready for these schedules yet, IMO. When you
play big boys, you're likely to get beaten. Especially at their houses. If
BYU comes out of those road games with 2 wins, I'll be happy.
WSU by 30. Write it down.The Pirate Ship will sail in
Provo and Broadside BYU.
"Our defense may be the best in the country"Huh? Sorry, but
that's impossible because the best D will be on the Hill. A squad anchored
by an All-American and top 5 NFL pick in Lotulelei. No worries there.It sounds like the byU faithful are already making excuses for the loss to
I think both teams' defenses will be surprisingly good in this game, as it
usually takes offenses a few games to figure things out. 24-20 for BYU.
Air raid = more time for our d-line to tally up the sacks and more opportunities
for our secondary to make picks! Holla!
Some of you know I have WAZZU ties here.The game:Both teams
will have first game jitters during the 1st half.BYU wil pull away and win
28-21. Home field advantage.I expect a .500 season from WSU with
Leach in his first season as coach.I welcome the trash talk of my
cougars. Because if things turn out differently.....It has Holmoe that
inked this contract.
People who ride motor bikes had better worry about their own team rather than
sniping at BYU.
I hope the football players aren't as cocky as the fans. This will be a
very close game. If we don't score a lot of points we will probably lose.
I get really nervous about our defense. Anyway I'm super excited about
getting football started.Go Cougars!
One thing for certain, the cougars will win!
Solomon Levi ..."Utah fans would be wise not to belittle a team
that could give the Utes some serious problems in early November, sandwiched, as
they are, between two teams that dominated the Utes in 2011, California and
Washington."__________It's not me (Ute fan) who was
belittling WSU, it's cougar fans on these comment threads who like to think
teams like WSU aren't any good. From what we all read we'll expect a
thorough beat down of the WSU cougars when they play in BYU ... otherwise
several faces will be covered with mud.
I know the article was about BYU's secondary, but the real key to beating
WSU will be our offense. Score points, run the ball well, keep WSU's
offense off the field. That will be the best help our defense can get.
Good luck to the Cougars. I hope they have a good secondary, especially in the
linebacking core. And I truly hope they don't get burned long, like they
have so many times before. I look forward to the game.
People keep saying this one's a gimme. Nobody know's how they'll
be and whether Leach will be the wizard he was at Texas Tech. But BYU better be
prepared, cause if Leach brings his "A" game and has the same kind of
success he had his first year at TT, then this could be a trap game for BYU.
"Our defense may be the best in the country and our secondary has always
been good."Facetious, but closer to the truth than you realize,
as far as BYU having a very good defense in 2012.
They will pass that test. Our defense may be the best in the country and our
secondary has always been good.
motorbike/RunnerYes, this is the super-charged version of the 4-8
team that the Utes just barely beat in overtime 30-27 last season - only now,
the Cougars are running an offense that traces its roots back to BYU's
prolific offenses of the 70's and 80's.Utah fans would be
wise not to belittle a team that could give the Utes some serious problems in
early November, sandwiched, as they are, between two teams that dominated the
Utes in 2011, California and Washington.
Line backers will be the key to this game. If they are allowed to blitz and
blitz often and they get hurries and sacks BYU will dominate WSU. If BYU plays
containment percentage football they will be picked apart. It will be Florida
State all over again. Nice to have something to comment on other
Motorbike...yes you are correct. BYU should win this game because it is against
a bottom tier team of the most overrated conference in the country.
This game should be a breeze for BYU ... afterall, this is one of the pathetic
weak teams from the bottom half of the Pac 12 right? Nothing to worry about for