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Suspect was former med student

Published: Friday, July 20 2012 10:02 p.m. MDT

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EPJ
Grantsville, UT

Terrible tragedy! My condolences to all those who have lost loved ones.

It is inevitable that this comment board will include more about gun control. Efforts at gun control must focus on identifying individuals who are unstable, then make sure they are not allowed access to weapons (not just guns, but all weapons). Violent video games and other forms of violence portrayed in the media are not benign to society. There are those few who are deeply influenced by violence, and attempt to act out what they have witnessed time and time again onscreen.

I wonder if the movie theater had a sign posted on the front doors stating that no concealed weapons are allowed inside? If that was the case, (and I do not know), but if that was the case, . . . the policy only restricted those who were law-abiding concealed carry holders, . . . law-abiding individuals who could have ended this before it became a massacre.

Mike in Cedar City
Cedar City, Utah

Once again the NRA and gun nuts will spout their nonsense about not letting this incident be a reason for reasonable gun control. EPJ, your condolences are not enough. And your logic flawed. This mass slaughter will continue until this foolish country wakes up to the stupidity of endorsing weapon control policies advocated by the NRA and their gun loving sycophants.

How many more lives will be lost before we do something about controlling automatic and large capacity firearms?

Aggielove
Cache county, USA

Epj.
Your insightful.
The video games are a major issue. But, there's no way to control that industry.
It seems that way at least.

mark
Salt Lake City, UT

Wow, epj. Did you just make a political statement out of this, even before the smoke has cleared, so to speak. But okay, just to clarify, you blame the video games.

This is a tragedy, it's almost unthinkable that a young man would do something like this. But it's all too common anymore. My heart goes out to everyone and their families that were involved. Especially to the children that were victims. How horrific. Expecting to go have a fun evening and then for this to happen. Very sad.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: ". . . NRA . . . logic flawed."

Yeah, here's the logic anti-gun liberals are selling -- the solution to the slaughter of powerless, unarmed innocents is to force us to have MORE powerless unarmed innocents.

Great logic.

kiaoraguy
Provo, UT

EVERYONE- please show some discretion, put a hold on the accusations and let's avoid the blame game until some real time has elapsed- time and place, time and place....

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@EPJ, MikeinCederCity, Aggielove, and procuradorfiscal

Couldn't be bothered to even wait 24 hours before making this political and blame-placing could you?

Rational
Salt Lake City, UT

"It was the worst mass shooting in Colorado since the Columbine High School massacre on April 20, 1999. Students E.H., 18, and D.K, 17,"

It is irresponsible to print the name of mass murderers who did it, in part, for glory and recognition.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

What a horrible tragedy.
My son attended the premiere last night, getting home just after 3 am when the movie ended.
My heart goes out to the families of the victims..

Re:Rational

I think it might be a good idea for the media to adopt a policy whereby they do not publicize the perpetrators name or picture.

Re:EPJ
Ive never seen a sign anywhere stating concealed weapons are not allowed.

We should bring back the Brady bill, an assault weapons ban, (like they have in MA) a waiting period for gun purchases, and close the gun show loopholes etc.

louie
Cottonwood Heights, UT

The NRA can do their thing but my problem is with people like MItt Romney who support them. I do not agree the reasoning that we should arm everyone. Too many bad consequences. Case in point a two year old died recently from playing with a loaded weapon.

Wayne Rout
El Paso, TX

I am sorry this happened.

Schwa
South Jordan, UT

So what you are saying is, people should have brought MORE guns to the movie theater (where guns are prohibited.) The vigilante fantasy that the Zimmerman's of the world seem to have about how they will be the hero one day by taking down a gunman are ridiculous. Guns aren't to blame for this tragedy, this guy is. But the guns helped. There's no reason that anyone reasonably needs access to an assault rifle.

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procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT
Re: ". . . NRA . . . logic flawed."

Yeah, here's the logic anti-gun liberals are selling -- the solution to the slaughter of powerless, unarmed innocents is to force us to have MORE powerless unarmed innocents.

Great logic.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Remember when batman just slugged it out with (funny looking) people who seemed to want to rob banks? He's changed, like our culture. We worship violence a lot more now.More and more this is how it manifests itself.

cjb
Bountiful, UT

A similar situation happened in Utah several years ago at Trolley square. I got my carry permit at the time as a result. I don't know if Colorado allows conceiled carry of weapons, but I do believe that had either a police or a citizen with a gun been in the theater at the time, many lives would have been saved.

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

The National Rifle Association does not own the 2nd Amendment although they act like they do. It belongs to all of us and the NRA does not speak for me. I’ve been a gun owner since I was thirteen when my dad bought me a .22 rifle. I’m descended from Mormon settlers who came West in covered wagons bringing their guns with them and they didn’t even have the NRA! How on Earth did they do it?

I’ll tell you how they did it. A gun was a tool for them as much as a shovel, ax, or plow, something they used when needed. It wasn’t a play toy, a status symbol, or something to twirl on their fingers while fantasizing that they were Wyatt Earp.

I’m sick of the gun culture in today’s America. Know what? There’s always been a gun culture in this country and it didn’t used to be anything like it’s become in my time.

cjb
Bountiful, UT

Murders happened long before guns were invented. Now that guns are here the only difference is the choice of the weapon.

Think that mass murders such as this can't be carried out with old time technology? Better think again. An assailant with either a knife
or a sword can kill a lot of people in a short amount of time especially in a crowded place such as this theater and the knife or sword doesn't run out of ammunition or emit a sound to warn others to take cover, or to escape, or to take action against the assailant.

Trooper55
Williams, AZ

It's a shame that people lost their life and were seriously injured. There needs to be more control on certin type of rifles sold and a longer wait time to get them. I believe that people have rights to own and carry weapons when they have the permit and a through back ground and a mental evaluation done. You could have all the Law Enforcement Officers in the world and when you can't see what is going on because of the smoke you can't defend the people. I also believe that their were officer of the law there, they caught the person too quick. This case doesn't need to be tried in the paper, but in a courtroom where the defended gets a fair trial. Too many are quick to want to place the NRA or viedo games at fault. I have noticed that since parents rights to punish their children the way they see best was taken away by the system their has been far too much volient crime of mass killing, by the younger people of our country.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Theories as to why this happened so far...

1. The guns
2. The video games

My guess - Anti-Depressant SRRIs meds.

But for right now, until the facts get in -- it's anybody's guess...

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

The five states with the lowest per capita gun death rates were Massachusetts, Hawaii, New Jersey, New York, and Connecticut. Each of these states had a per capita gun death rate far below the national per capita gun death rate of 10.19 per 100,000 for 2009. Each state has strong gun laws and low gun ownership rates. By contrast, states with weak gun laws and higher rates of gun ownership had far higher rates of firearm-related death. Ranking first in the nation for gun death was Louisiana, followed by Wyoming, Alabama, Montana, and Mississippi.

On his 2002, gubernatorial campaign website, Romney declared his support for "the strict enforcement of gun laws" as well as "the federal assault weapons ban."

In his 2003 budget, Romney proposed tripling fees for gun owners to obtain ID cards for firearms and to obtain a license to carry a firearm. Fees got quadrupled.

"I believe the people should have the right to bear arms, but I don't believe that we have to have assault weapons as part of our personal arsenal." Mitt Romney then signed a bill outlawing assault weapons and small handguns in Massachusetts.

ute alumni
Tengoku, UT

how about outlawing killers? novel approach. where is the outrage of the antigun libs when their own government is selling weapons to criminals?

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