"Jimmer can and should play the point, however he needs to pattern his game
after pass first point guards like Nash & Stockton."Question
for U 90: have you ever actually played any organized sport at any level? You
don't just up and abandon your strengths and try to become something you
never have been. It don't work, bro. All players are well-served to refine
and modify their games to fit the team they're on and to lengthen their
careers, but to go from Alpha Dog Scorer to Maestro Distributor has never, ever
happened in the history of pro basketball. It's not all one or the other,
but Stock and Nash are wired to be PG's. It's instinctual as much as
it is skill.Jimmer? Wired to put ball in hoop. Can he pass? Sure,
but he's a born scorer. Can't hammer a square into a round hole.
@Poyman: I would not brag that much about Bradley. But what about
Quinney,Congdon, and Merlin Olsen? Oh wait he was and Aggie..How about Bogut??
Ist pick bust that can't stay healthy for even a partial season??
One thing for sure he makes more money than all you bad mouthers.. Not many
players can be golden in just one year. Give the kid a chance..
I appreciate Chris B's posts............sorry if "reality" bugs Y
fans. It is what it is folks!
Utah-Hawaii AlumDallas, TX9:15 a.m. July 20, 2012You
need to read your post again and shake yourself.Way out of line with
I'm betting on Jimmer. Like Linsanity, he just needs a chance with players
that will play with him.
Another tidbit.............All the LDS folks that have a crush on Fredette
constantly emailed, sent letters to Kings' management complaining and
threatening boycott when Fredette lost his playing time last season due to his
poor play. When are you people gonna learn how to keep your traps shut? Everyone
is constantly annoyed by your immature behavior, bizarre blind claims and
James Taft Fredette is in no way NBA material. He shoots 37%................that
is not going to cut the mustard when "shooting" is his ONLY asset. He
plays ZERO defense, too slow, no transition game whatsoever, can't rebound,
post-up, or penetrate the paint. He will be gone to eastern Europe very soon. I
say he he is waived by SAC at fall camp and NO NBA team will pick him up. He is
just another Adam Morrison is all.
@poymanAustin Collie, Really?
Jimmer is a one-trick pony, but its a pretty good trick. He needs to get into a
system that knows how to use his talents, and has a coaching staff that can
improve his versatility. I don't see that happening in Sacramento. He was
brought in to sell tickets, but that only works if he wins games. I don't
think he's coming to the Jazz anytime soon, but I would think that New York
could definitely use him coming off the bench.
Jimmer will figure it out and will eventually be a solid NBA player. Lillard
will be better though. Lillard is the better defender and has a skill set that
is closer to what works best in the NBA.
I did wonder if Jimmer had the speed and quickness to be a starter in the NBA.
He certainly does not have the size. So he would need the speed and quickness.
I think his future in the NBA will be as a 6th or 7th man. Nothing to sneeze
at, as the NBA has had some hall of fame players that did not start. Hopefully
he will find the right team to use him like that, which I don't think is
Sacremento. Yes, bring him back to Utah. Put him in a Jazz uniform.
Ldsfan... you are right. There will be a place for Jimmer somewhere and
possibly in the NBA. However, the Jimmer fans on this thread are simply out of
touch with reality. He is simply not going to be an above-average NBA
basketball player... EVER. No matter what team or system he finds himself in.
Genetics have a lot more to do with it than what team he is on. I
love sports and I love to witness the passion, and sometimes complete idiocy,
that fans have for their teams and players because I'm one of them! Jimmer
and Tebow have been two of my favorite case studies. Haters love to hate and
lovers hold on to every single thread of possible validation. To the analytical
observers who are void of emotion, they are both below average players in
leagues that require above average skill and athleticism to be great.The Jimmer we knew and loved at BYU will NEVER be that Jimmer again...
Not worried about this kid. If you can play ball, there is a place to play. No
shame in playing overseas.
This is more of a Sacramento issue than a Jimmer issue.
After watching Sacrament play, it's all about ME. There were numerous
times that Jimmer came down the floor and never touched the ball. The
don't play team basketball in the NBA. It's all about ME. Hopefully
Jimmer will be able to step up, get a little more playing time and receive the
ball from his team-mates more often than he did his freshman year in the NBA.
Chris B would have found fault in him if he had made the All-Star team and
Baseball Dad, stick to baseball.
Jimmer will not last in the NBA, should not even be there in the first place. To
slow, small and weak.
Hey Chris B... How is it that you always get to be the first one to make a
comment? Do you work for the DN? Or is it that you just don't have a life
outside of making insignificant cotributions on internet forums?Since you are ususally the first poster I usually end up reading your baloney
and then wish that I hadn't... You have made some ridiculous comments in
the past, but this one is one of your most ridiculous... Here are
some names to think about...Jim McCahon, Marc Wilson, Gifford
Nielson, and Steve Young, you know what these guys have in common besides being
NFL stars and BYU grads? That's right, they were all NFL Team starting QBs
at the same time... A first in the NFL...If you don't know who
these guys are, maybe a trip to Canton, OH might help you...A couple
of more names to think about... Austin Collie, the Denney brothers, Paul Howard,
Vai Sikahema, Todd Christianson, and so on... Want to switch sports?
Danny Ainge, Shawn Bradley, Fred Roberts, Greg Kite, Paul Ruffner, John
Fairchild, Dick Nemilka, Kresimer Cosic? Need I go on?
Give the Jimmer a break. He is on a team that does not have the dynamics (or
Coach) he had before. It is a new team, and they need to work together. The
Kings are not the Cougars. Far from it. There is so much competition working
against him than in his favor. It doesn't take much observation
to recognize that. We ALL know Jimmer has what it takes. He will stand on his
own merits. Maybe he needs a new team where he can be himself. ??
@bradleyc"Jimmer needs the minutes and the patience of others
for success. When he gets the consecutive minutes he gets hot"I
keep hearing Jimmer fans say this ... here's the problem with that:If you're the coach of an NBA team would you honestly let a guy go
in and jack up 15 shots in the first half just to get him in his rhythm even
though he only makes 3 to 5 of them? The team would be down 20 points real fast
with the odds of a win stacked against them.Those that say Jimmer
needs to be a shooting guard have it right. Think Hornecek in the Jazz's
system. Jimmer's best chance to succeed would be in a system that runs
through the low post options first with Jimmer looking for space when defenses
cheat.The problem is his height will always be an issue in terms of
playing the 2-guard spot in the NBA. But as long as Jimmer is expected to run an
offense and create his own shot, he WILL fail. And no NBA coach can afford to
patiently allow him to "heat up" on a nightly basis.
Smart's history with young guards stink... Just ask Jeremy Linn... 2 years
ago he was burried at the end of Smart's bench, last year he was staring
for the NY Knicks and this year he is a 3 year $25M contract free agent heading
to Houston...The Kings simply aren't the NBA Team best suited
for Jimmer... IMHO, they have both the worst ownership and coaching in the
Oh bull. He's one of the most talented players to come along in probably 40
years. You have to go back to Danny Ainge to find a player as talented.
Jimmer is a perfect off the bench zone breaker. Have him ride the pine until the
opposition goes to a zone, bring him in to work the seams and hit the three.
They go back to man to man, out comes Jimmer. Think a shorter, quicker version
of Kyle Korver. ..By the way Harmon, what is a "back-step
three" is that the same as a "step-back three" or is the back-step
something new Jimmer invented?
Jimmer better return to having the swagger he used to have otherwise he will
find him self without a team to play on. Jimmer can play - and play well in the
NBA - but you only get so many chances to prove yourself.
Chris B.I love your predictions...tell me, will the earth end on
December 21st. I am hopelessly waiting your reply...I know its pure
Jimmer needs the minutes and the patience of others for success. When he gets
the consecutive minutes he gets hot.
Given time and the right situation (not Sac) Jimmer will be fine...
Jimmer can and should play the point, however he needs to pattern his game after
pass first point guards like Nash & Stockton. While he scored points in
bucket loads at BYU he's not going to do that in the NBA. If he wants a
long NBA career he needs to put up numbers like 9 assist and 14 pts per game,
not 2 assists and 25 pts.
I completely agree with gdog3finally. I'm not a BYU fan and I'm not a
Utah fan so I'm completely unbiased. I'm a basketball fan therefore I
loved watching Jimmer play in college but I'm realistic about his
limitations in the NBA. Ironhide makes me laugh with his comment that Jimmer
needs to be a two guard... seriously? In the NBA? Jimmer shouldn't be
slotted for a position other than a solid role player/shooter. He is too short
and too slow to ever be a legitimate starter in this league. You say, we (Jazz)
need him... no thanks. I can think of no less than 10 "shooters" I
would rather have on my team than Jimmer.
Where would Jimmer fit on the Jazz? I understand the love for Jimmer
but think it through. Do ya'll want Jimmer playing over Mo Williams, Alec
Burks, and Gordon Hayward? Jimmer was a legendary college player.
That ship has sailed and he will be fighting for the NBA journeyman role from
here on out.I will eat crow if I am wrong, but things are turning
out for Jimmer the way I thought they would. I do think he could be more
productive on a new team, and he might light up the scoreboard on occasion, but
Jimmer is a low minute guy who can give a team a long range spark off the bench
from time to time (a la Eddie House).
I wonder, what kind of an athlete is Chris B? Enough of an athlete to call out
the former consensus college player of the year? He's right, that was all
just luck. He knows way more than all those coaches and journalists. Only
Chris would have the audacity to talk trash about a dude that ran his team off
their own court. He can't be older than 14 with how he reasons. Now to
truth. Jimmer needs to get out of Sac. They've destroyed his confidence,
and he let it happen. Dude needs to be a shooting guard, not a point.
He's a spot guy that can create when necessary. It just isn't the
right system, too many egos and insecurities from his teammates. He needed the
green light last year, but with half of his teammates getting in his face when
he shot too much, he was bound to lose his edge. I would like to see him here.
I sure hope the Kings trade Jimmer. Send him to a team that could actually use
some shooting, not just a team that keeps drafting more guards.
Hey, cut Jimmer some slack. Afterall, he went to the school people love to hate,
and he can't get that out of his system. Perhaps if he does, he may be able
to fit in on another team, he's done in Sac Town, so maybe he'll
become a jazz man.
Jimmer will be just fine. It will all come together. It's not like he has a
ton of pressure on him. He knows there are people like Chris B. out there
cheering for him to fail. Jimmer will get his Jimmer on.
Told you so! Byu players are not "athletes" and therefore dont belong
with the big boys(bcs leagues, nba, nfl).