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Published: Sunday, July 15 2012 7:18 p.m. MDT

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Eddie Would Go
FPO, AE

I'm starting to think that the Utes should have committed to playing the Cougars annually, just so we don't have to keep reading sports writers whine about the two-year break from the rivalry.

Pleas Deseret News, if anyone else on staff wants to put their two cents in on the subject, please do us all a favor and get it over with in the next 24 hours. Then let's move on, shall we?

GoRed
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

I agree, Eddie. Before this article gets commented on by the usual (BYU) suspects, let me point out that Utah isn't afraid to schedule the Cougs. But being in a solid BCS conference is light years harder than being in the MWC, where by just showing up, you could be guaranteed at least 5 wins. There is no day off in the PAC 12, as we saw in the Colorado game (a game that BYU fans hang their hats on, considering their own team got trounced by the Utes at home by 44).

And BYU fans, before we hear about scheduling Northern Colorado, please explain Idaho, San Jose State, Hawaii, Weber State, and New Mexico State.

Mesa Coug
Phoenix, AZ

I agree. Let's move on to something else. All the arguments have been made on both sides. Both schools will be fine without the game.

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

Afraid of losing to the Cougars?

Would it be better if Dr. Hill just said that he is tired of the hyper animosity and hostility surrounding the game and he just thinks it's time for a time-out to cool things down for the good of the rivalry?

Would it be better if Dr. Hill just said that the doesn't like BYU and doesn't want to see them on his field ever again?

I don't know what it is... maybe it's just as Dr. Hill said that he thinks Texas and Florida recruits are more interested in playing Michigan than BYU.

But whatever it is, Dr. Hill has offered a respectful way out for BYU (...they are a tough game...), yet BYU fans and the media simply refuse to take the graceful way out and move on.

The Cougar Nation and its fawning media should show some dignity... acting like spoiled hissy-fit children is not likely to endear you to Dr. Hill has he decides if the time-out should continue beyond '06.

tdlawton
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Here is a deal for BYU supporters, on the street or in the press.

Pick some subjective measure, like the Sagarin rankings or some other (relatively) respected system and compare the SOS (Strength-of-Schedule) of Independent BYU vs. Pac-12 Utah. If and when BYU has a tougher schedule they can call Utah "chicken."

Until then just shut up already.

FTR: last year Utah SOS rank #49 BYU SOS rank #90 (according to Sagarin).

Utah-Hawaii Alum
Dallas, TX

Exactly how is BYu gonna beat Utah this year and next.......throw spit wads or put the Ebola virus in the Ute's Gatorade jug? They stand ZERO chance against a stacked, deep, speedy Utah squad, period the end! Plus, Utah's recruiting is twice as good........the future for BYu is bleak at best.

alternate
Salt Lake City, UT

Dr. Hill should just come and say, we want to play a games we know we can win for our remaining games in 2014 and 15. But we can't say that if we play BYU. Nothing more, nothing less. Be honest. All the talk around destroys creditability.

There are other big reasons for Utah to not play BYU anymore but they to do apply to winning or losing.

One would be that it may eliminate all the hate that seems to be growing between the fans of both schools. It may also eliminate the need for commentor's from both schools to alway intentionally mock the other school by writing cute little name slur's or openly call each other names.

After all, honesty is the best policy and name calling should end upon leaving elementary school.

romorg
PROVO, UT

@GoRed and all other Utes that make disparaging comments about the WAC and MWC

You say there is no day off in the PAC-12 (like there was in the MWC).

Explain to me when exactly Utah could just get a win for showing up in the MWC. I seem to remember a 0-27 loss to UNLV. That would be a team that finished 2-10.

How about that loss to Wyoming in 2006?

Perhaps you remember losing to UNM 5 out of 7 years or 5 years in a row to CSU?

Do you remember those three straight you lost to AFA?

And then there were the two losses to SDSU when they were 0-5 and 2-4.

So, tell me again who it was in the MWC you could just show up against.

You were a member of the WAC for 36 years and NEVER won an outright title. BYU won 13 and shared 6 more.

You were a member of the MWC for 12 years and won 3 outright titles while sharing 1. BYU..same.

Congrats on your membership in the PAC-12. Just don't act like you're too good for your former competition.

Real Bass
Idaho Falls, ID

This writer is a real tool and the u is the PAC doormat. BYU Should just close the door permanently on the school up north.

Yerffoegn
Maricopa, Az

We have all weighed in. What's done is done. It's time to play football. Time to put a button kicking on the Ute's, and send them packing in style. In front Chris Hill's luxery box.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

Utah could never beat byu. We just beat ourselves.

phoenix
Gilbert, AZ

gored

"Before this article gets commented on by the usual (BYU) suspects, let me point out that Utah isn't afraid to schedule the Cougs."

lol

The Utes absolutely are AFRAID of LOSING to the Cougars or the Utes would have already locked in the Cougars home-and-home for the next 20 years.

bottom line:

Hill said so himself that he didn't think the Utes were good enough to play BYU and Michigan in the same year, in other words, he was worried that the Utes could LOSE to both BYU and Michigan in the same year, possibly killing Utah's chances of going to a bowl if the Utes finished with another losing record in the PAC 12, which is looking more and more like a very likely occurance most years.

btw,

Hill isn't dumb enough to even think that the Utes have the clout to beg for a two-for-one from ANY Class-A opponent.

IdaUte
GARDEN CITY, ID

Utah should look to schedule 2 for 1 arrangements for as many out of confrence games as they can, if they want to play us 2 for 1 then lets do it. Their trouble putting together a 13 game schedule is not Chris Hill's issue and he shouldn't be expected to do ANYTHING that is not in the best interest of our team. I am 100% confident he is doing just that.

GO UTES!!!!

TrueBlue
Orem, UT

Mike Sorensen: "Utah Utes should act like they expect to beat BYU"

That's the core of the dilemma facing Utah.

Despite the pretended "superiority" of Hill and Whittingham and Utah fans, even though there have been a couple of lopsided games during the Bronco/Kyle era, FIVE of the SEVEN games (72%) have been decided by a touchdown or less in the closing minutes or in overtime.

The Utes know that they are just as likely to lose to BYU as they are to Michigan.

The Utes may act tough, but as Hill said, the reality is the Utes aren't good enough to play BYU and Michigan in the same season.

Bleed Crimson
Sandy, Utah

@ Mike Sorenson

"Utah Utes should act like they expect to beat BYU"

What makes you think they don't?

NEWSFLASH! Call Bronco and have him read your article.

ciscodavey
Moab, UT

Its not that Utah is scared of BYU at all, this is about creating a smart schedule. Beating BYU does nothing while losing can ruin a national title or bowl chance. For example lets say you're walking down the street and some drunk guy picks a fight with you. Most sensible people would walk away not because they are scared of losing the fight but because there is nothing to gain but quite a lot to lose if it became a legal issue. Thats the same thought process, beating independent BYU does nothing for voters but losing to them looks terrible.

xert
Santa Monica, CA

I've yet to hear anyone discuss the ramifications of playing Michigan over the next two years (as compared to playing BYU) and how that plays out in the minds of the recruits that Utah and BYU both covet. It is clear that the Utah game should weigh heavily in the minds of young kids who like both schools. If Utah's schedule offers something pretty to replace not playing against BYU, what does BYU offer in place of not playing at packed houses against the mighty Utes in front of friends and family? A late night weekday ESPN game?

BlameItOnTheOfficials
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Put aside all the boasting and either team could win on any given year.. that's what made this rivalry so heated and fun. To push it aside is to ignore what the fans want. Chris Hill should remember that the game is played for the fans. It's all going to just be meaningless talk if they don't schedule the games again after this two year hiatus is over. As a Ute fan I'm saddened and disheartened by Chris Hill's decision.

NORCALUTE
MoTown, CA

The bottom line is that the Utes don't need BYu...the Ute's make over $1million a game in teh PAC12...if they play BYu, the bring in $300K...it's all about money folks and the Ute's have it and the y does not. In other words: The Utes grew up and went to college, the y is still in high school trying to figure out what day it is.

Can't wait 'till the our Utes are playing in the Rose Bowl...Go Utes! Man, it's great to be U alumni!

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@gored

There were no "days off" for utah in the mwc either considering they lost to every single bottom feeder in that conference during whittigham's tenure. Remember new mexico? Howzabout wyoming? san diego st? colorado st? And oh yes I'm sure you remember unlv. utah's proven it has a propensity to lose to very bad teams, and in very embarrassing fashion. So I have to agree with you on this, for utah there are no "days off", ever, against anybody.

LOL!

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