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Published: Friday, July 13 2012 6:15 p.m. MDT

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Mike in Cedar City
Cedar City, Utah

Guilt by association? What is this ESPN writer up to? If he has information about institutionally protected child abusers, and fails to come forward, isn't this the same failing that Penn State officials are accused of? This is just innuendo and some kind of politically motivated smear. If ESPN has some specifics let it come forward. Otherwise the comment needs to be retracted and the reporter reprimanded for rumor mongering.

Rick2009
MESA, AZ

I think that this shows how far college sports and all sports have gone to cater to the winner. I think that maybe BYU does help its players become better men but has the school gotten sucked into the worldly feeling of win at all costs? I don't think anything wrong has happened at BYU. But with all the maneuvering to change conferences, build a bigger stadium etc. where are their real priorities. I also feel that some college coaches are paid way too much, way too much and that leads to the opposite of humility in a lot of cases. You can't tell me a coach is worth more than a math teacher or science teacher. Where are we going with all this, I hate to see it.

higv
Dietrich, ID

Business week article less than accurate and does the author realize the true church goes out of its way to keep people accused of sexual abuse away from children.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@Mike in Ceder City
Have you not noticed the story not too long ago in Utah about a Bishop charged with not reporting a case of abuse?

Pendergast
SLC, UT

I don't think guilt by association has anything to do with it. Human behavior can be nasty regardless of religious preferences.

The thing we are losing sight of is there was a mean spirited article on byu by espn. I thought they were bff's?

Fulprae
LEHI, UT

@Mike in Ceder City
Except that these two situations are not very similar. The bishop issue was not an institutional issue related to a cover up of internal abuse. It was a situation with a bishop who had abuse reported to him and chose not to report it. Breaking a confession confidence can only be done in certain instances. It can be a difficult analysis and if a bishop wasn't informed or sought sufficient help in making a decision, mistakes could be made. That does not always suggest an intentional cover up. In fact, virtually all of those situations happen because of a mistake in understanding legal requirements of when you can and can't disclose.

Failed reports happen in many different religions and also in psychiatric situations because that line isn't always easy to determine. In other words, covering up for internal abuse and failing to break a legally protected confidence usually have very little in common.

kevin4byu
Santaquin, UT

It is interesting to note that the updated story has removed the Mormon reference and has replaced it with the Boy Scouts....hmmmm.

Mike in Cedar City
Cedar City, Utah

Atl134. In truth I am not familiar with that incident. I need to check the facts on that case, but Fulprae is probably right. This Bishop's mistake was probably not done for protection of the institution. In in the Mormon Church Bishops have little or no formal training in how to handle these kinds of situations. And they are "lay" leaders and not compensated by the institution. And if that was what the author was talking about he should have said so. His failure to be specific is what made it seem to; be a smear.

deseret pete
robertson, Wy

Mormon Bishops are trained on what to do and have ready access to some one to give counsel on these matters -- they only need to read the handbook and follow the guide lines.This is especially true in the last decade. They have a lot more knowledge than they uded to have and the church is very specific as to their actions and responsibility,and in the case of any questio as to that responsibility they ,as I have stated, have easy access to those who can help.However it is an awesome responsibility and they are human and I'm sure mistakes have been made but hopefully not intentional.

blooit
IDAHO FALLS, ID

Charges were dropped against that Bishop. Simply not a case of institutional coverup.

Kalindra
Salt Lake City, Utah

@ Mike in Cedar City: It is not the author who is covering things up - nor is he making unsupported accusations. His comment also does not necessarily reference the case of the Bishops here in Utah who did not pass on to the authorities accusations of abuse that they had received.

It is a well documented fact that when allegations of clergy abuse were made to authorities in the Catholic Church, they would move the accused priest to a different parish - with no warning to the new congregation that there had ever been a problem and no discipline of the accused priest. Because of this behavior by the Catholic Church, many new youth were victimized.

The Catholic Church was as aware of problem as the officials at Penn State - and they took very little action to protect those who should have been protected, choosing instead to protect the perpetrators.

Kalindra
Salt Lake City, Utah

The reference to the LDS Church comes from the Washington State LDS Scoutmaster case (and similar cases) - which seems similar in that no action was taken when the abuse was first reported - thereby allowing access to other youth.

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