goredUteNation is hitting this original BYU story hard (headline was
changed to later include the Ute players, the Utes had a separate story} in
support of White and dissing Riley. No offense to the greatness of
White's ability, personal achievement, and making this list but it
didn't make a difference against Colorado. Go toot your horn on your story.
GoRedYes Y fans are defending Riley hard, and I'm not sure why
we do. Nothing would please me more than to see the U coaches and players
underestimate Riley even half as much as some of U fans do. It would make
September 15th an epic day indeed. Folks, it's a watch list,
not the final award. Of course White deserves to be on it. I have just about
lost interest in this one, so I don't know, but has any Y fan seriously
debated the point? How many people are on the list, 70 some odd? The fact
that Nelson made the list too is a pleasant acknowledgement that many U fans
appear to be too dense to be able to swallow. By the end of October,
the list will be a lot shorter for all concerned, not just for Riley.
sammy, "Started the first three games of the season before
undergoing season-ending surgery to repair a shoulder injury"Additionally, attempted only 7 passes during the month of November of Junior
year due to injury.Do you know who this describes? This is the
"gutsy no holds barred QB" whom "fans don't have to worry about
(getting) knocked around once in a while, unlike the injury prone QB from the
hill," as you put it.That was a little bit too easy.
BYU nation is hitting these boards hard in support of Nelson. But what White IV
accomplished last year against tough competition week in and week out is truly
amazing. When Wynn went down, all of the PAC 12 teams knew the ball was going
through White, yet he managed to gain 1,500+ yards. He pretty much
single-handedly beat Georgia Tech in the Sun Bowl. This season has all the
makings of an even greater year for White and the U.Go Utes!!
Sammy Girl: The most negative Utah poster ever is stating how negative all the
Utah posters have been. In doing so, his post was not negative AT ALL!
I would definitely put John White and Riley Nelson as the best running backs in
the state! No but seriously, I can't wait for the first time
Nelson runs from the pocket and gets his bell rung by Blechen or any number of
Ute defenders that will have him on their radar. Can't wait!
Let's go John White! Lookin forward to you tearing up the field again this
season! John White for Heisman!
re:sammygLet's talk again after the Y plays Utah, Boise , Notre
Dame and Georgia Tech. If Nelson is really deserving of some watch list then he
will show it in these games....or not.
Tulsa was not TCU...but they were better than Georgia Tech!
patriotHyperbole caught up with you, bro. I saw him throw long two
times in the second half alone, once with perfect results, and the other would
have been if Apo hadn't given up on his route.I can agree that
Tulsa was NOT his best game, yet he won. When the game was on the line, he did
what he does best - find a way to drive the ball and score. Tulsa, granted, was
not TCU. But they were no slouch either.
Congrats to Riley!Kind of interesting that the headline has been
updated to include the Ute players from the BYU angle of the story. From the Ute
angle the story maintains its original title only highliting Ute players.Not a single negative comment on the Ute headline and here you see the
usual garbage from 'the hill' spilling over and denigrating Riley. So
typical.I'm glad BYU has a gutsy no holds barred QB like Riley.
At least the fans don't have to worry when Riley gets knocked around once
in a while unlike the injury prone QB from the hill.It's sad
that a Ute season is contingent upon whether the QB survives his propensity to
injury. You know its bad when its on everyone's mind if the kid is going to
make it through, every play. It overshadows everything there is about the
game.I bet Chow was glad to leave this scenario behind, for personal
health reasons.What Riley might lack is more than compensated by his
abilities in leadership and making things happen in clutch moments.He's a BYU QB, a rare and honored young man. Congrats for making the
Congrats Riley. You've earned it!
BYU football: Riley Nelson named to Maxwell Award preseason watch list"Fans commenting (some more than once): BYU - 7Utah -
6"Utah football: John White, Star Lotulelei named to Maxwell and
Bednarik watch lists"Fans commenting: BYU - 0Utah - 5Utah fans just can't help themselves - once a little
brother, always a little brother.
Watch list? Watch Riely do what - pass the football? Are you kidding? I've
seen much better Junior College QB's throwing the ball compared to Nelson.
Take a look at the bowl game and you saw an undersized kid attempting to throw
the ball down field in tight windows ... with zero success. Nelson is the worst
throwing QB to ever play at the Y ... even long before Mark Lyons when the Y was
a running team. Nelson can't compete against good teams with athletes -
Notre Dame, Georgia Tech, Utah, Boise... If Brad Anae were still at the Y along
with Jake Heaps you would have a "real" QB to watch.
Brave Sir RobinEpic fail, friend. Mildred is an anti-BYU fan who
delights in mocking BYU with not too subtle sarcasm intended to parody supposed
real BYU fans.Kinda like Earnest T Bass, but not as funny.
@Mildred in FillmoreI know you're a BYU fan and you guys like
hype, but can't you at least wait until Nelson throws ONE pass this year
before proclaiming that he should be in the Heisman discussion?
Pretty stark contrast between pac12fan's comments on this article and the
ones he posted on the article about jon white and star also being named to the
watch list.If anyone ever wanted to read a textbook case of homerism
and bias just go read his comments there and compare them to the ones he posted
here. He can't just wish the kid good luck, he is a BYU player
It's not just the statistics saying Riley can be great though. This is
actual people who are earn their living evaluating these athletes. They
don't just look at statistics. they put Riley on the list because they
realize he can be great. same with White
Black ShirtsSouth Jordan, UTThought this was an article
on Riley Nelson. The 54-10 is really eating away at you isn't
PAC12FanYep, you caught them out on that one! Fools thought they
could slip a ringer through, but you were too quick for that!eastcoastcougI'll cut you some slack on the "seeing is
believing" routine, but when he DOES have a breakout season, please
don't be one of the "I knew it all along" crowd.
PAC12FanSo you're saying that John White yards against these
very weak and overrated teams shouldn't count. I thought that is what you
were saying. You probably think Utah will actually win the PAC12 someday, NEVER.
They are in the weak half of the PAC12 and still will never win it. Northern ColradoUtah StArizona StOregon STWash StColoradoArizonaUCLAThe PAC12 will probably only have
two teams in the top 20 this year. WEAK.
@byufan1993Statistics are very fickle. If one is playing against
poor competition, do the stats speak for themselves? If John White gained all
his yards against,....say North Dakota State, is that impressive and do the
stats prove anything?What is more impressive .... Chang of Hawaii
averaging over 470 yards a game passing against WAC competition or Joe Montana
averaging 285 yards per game against the toughest schools in America? I say the latter. I've seen how tough our new conference can be on our
team. Riley has only played in one tough game and he had multiple
interceptions against TCU. Let's see how impressive he is against the first
half of BYU's schedule before saying he is really good.
@HCB63Well im so glad you're enjoying yourself here. I just
have to point out that you're laughing against statistics. This isnt just
Deseret News that is saying Riley has potential to be great. This is a
nationally recognized list! That a ute also made! If you're going to laugh
at this then we must too laugh at the fact that White made the list as well. How
about instead we just congratulate both athletes on a job well done and good
luck to them in the future! Why laugh at one another? Let's be happy for
one another. :)
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha ha Ha Ha Ha....!That
is the funniest news I've heard in a long while! Keep the comedy going...
Congrats to Riley! And in the style of good sportmanship congrats to the two Ute
players also put on preseason watch lists! Hope Riley and them both do well! But
only Riley is allowed to do well when we play each other ;) Good luck! Go
I think Riley should also be in the Heisman conversation.Go Cougs.
I'm happy others are recognizing Nelson's talent. He will have a
breakout year in 2012!
I'll be impressed when we beat a good team - e.g. Boise St, Utah, Notre
Dame - then we'll really be talking about something...
Congratulations to Riley Nelson on being the latest BYU Quarterback to be named
to the Maxwell Award watch list!Looking forward to a fun season.
Oooooh, that'll ruin Wayne's day. And not a single mention of being
on the punt return team.Rise and shout, Riley! Show 'em what
you're made of