Published: Thursday, July 5 2012 12:00 a.m. MDT
Crystal K. Kayser, we are flushing billions down the drain yearly with our
current and new healthcare system. The company I work for is already posturing
to shift more and more of the cost to employees. This inspite of tax incentives.
As citizens we are subsidizing 60% of the healthcare costs of our neighbors and
still many can't afford insurance even though employers offer it as a
benefit. Our nation's healthcare has become a priviledge of wealth and it
is obscene. When a health insurance executive takes home a billion $ in 10 years
then something is tragically askew. The only alternative for you and me is just
don't get sick.
There taxes are so high there too that there is less incentive. Did our
forefathers Immigrate to the new world so we could be like our European cousins?
Why do people still want to come to this country. HIgher taxes are passed on
to the people anyway. What part of Thou Shalt Not Covet don't people
higv, and just as higher taxes are passed on to the people, so are the medical
costs for people who cannot afford to pay for their own. Or for people who have
been denied coverage by our insurance giants.Aren't people who
refuse to purchase insurance coveting the money of those of us who will pay when
they suddenly need it?And isn't one of the prime propaganda
points of the anti-ACA crowd the idea that the current high cost of health
insurance is killing hiring incentives?Your post simply agrees with
the need for universal coverage -- although you don't seem to realize it.
Have you been duped?
Specifically which studies show France's healthcare system is so efficient
and successful. Links to those studies would be appreciated, too.
Random thoughts..A very interesting program can be viewed online,
PBS Frontline series, "Dollars and Dentists" which reveals what can
happen when private enterprise exploits those without dental coverage. Why are MRIs, CAT scans and prescription drugs so much cheaper in other
countries?Do Americans benefit when taxpayer dollars flow into the pockets
of corporations such as they do/did under Medicare Advantage or when we
outsourced military duties to companies like Blackwater?ACA is just
the beginning. No doubt it will need to be modified as time goes on.
If ideologies could be dropped for just a minute and health care looked at
objectively, we wouldn't have the ACA, but we certainly wouldn't have
the system we've had for the past 70 years. To have my access to health
care and a healthy life dependent on my job is insane. Forget who's
employed and who's not employed. It means that if I happen to have a job
with a major corporation I likely will have the best access available at the
time. On the other hand if I work as a tile layer and literly break my back
with hard labor every day for 8 hours I will only have coverage for major
incidents..if I'm lucky. Now start to factor in our poor outcomes,
insurance executives making billions of dollars, drug companies making obscene
profits, and it becomes clear very quickly that the core purpose of the American
health care system is wealth creation. Making a profit for everyone is the
engine in capitalist societies (even France), but the capitlization of health
care is destructive and immoral.
To Michael Hernandez: The study which ranked French healthcare #1 was done by
the World Health Organization. The same study ranked the U.S. #37. The Deseret
News does not permit links, but I'm sure you can find it easily.
higv,Your first point of high taxes and loss of incentive got lost in all
of the meaningless rhetorical posturing you dove into right after. "Did our forefathers Immigrate to the new world so we could be like our
European cousins?"Meaningless nationalistic question. That was
hundreds of years ago, nations have changed, and has no relevance to now. "Why do people still want to come to this country."They want to go to European countries too. We aren't the only ones with
an immigration issue."HIgher taxes are passed on to the people
anyway"So are the costs of serious health care problems of the
uninsured that could have been avoided with preventative care had they been
covered by a health insurance plan. "What part of Thou Shalt Not
Covet don't people understand."Oh man, where to start?
Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's? It is easier for a camel to pass
through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter heaven? Those who have
cared for the least of these have cared for me? Unfortunately for you, the Lord
hasn't revealed his opinion on American fiscal policy.
This letter raises some good points. The British system is also worth
considering. The bottom line is our system is broken unless you are one of the
haves. Most of us make major contributions already to health insurance premiums
through our employers. Some plans are just plain awful, depending on what the
employer has negotiated with the insurance company. It seems to me that a
comprehensive reform effort would be more cost effective and could provide
universal coverage, reducing the burden on businesses, the taxpayers as a whole,
and the millions who cannot afford insurance. We have terrible results compared
to the rest of the industrial world. Huffing and puffing about
"socialism" or "freedom" changes nothing and does zero to
address a serious problem. The U.S. needs to grow up and take this head on.
"but the capitlization of health care is destructive and immoral."--------------Amen.
HERE the conservatives and libertarians go gain with radical extremism. A new study funded by the Department of Homeland Security characterizes
Americans who are suspicious of centralized federal authority, and reverent of
individual liberty as extreme right-wing terrorists. Entitled Hot Spots of
Terrorism and Other Crimes in the United States, 1970-2008, the study was
produced by the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to
Terrorism at the University of Maryland. The organization was launched with DHS
funding to the tune of $12 million dollars. The report takes its definitions
from a 2011 study entitled Profiles of Perpetrators of Terrorism, produced by
the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism,
in which the following characteristics are used to identify terrorists.Americans who believe their way of life is under attack; Americans
who are fiercely nationalistic (as opposed to universal and international in
orientation); Americans who are suspicious of centralized federal
authority; Americans who are reverent of individual liberty; People who believe in conspiracy theories that involve grave threat to
national sovereignty and/or personal liberty.The "LiL"
engine in capitalist societies that rips you flushing billions down-the
all I can say it is about time we take a major step towards reform. It is also
noteworthy that France and other countries have larger percentages of seniors in
their population and they struggle less with cost issues. So why has it been so
hard for us look at solutions objectively?
We spend 15% of GDP a year on healthcare, while France spends about 10%. Anyone
who thinks France (or any other European nations healthcare systems) are
absurdedly expensive and would ruin us financially if we used it, I'd love
to know what you think about our current much more expensive system's
I've been saying this all along.
Having lived in France for a number of years, I can say their system is great. I
got treatment quickly and efficiently, got a bill, sent it to the gov't
insurance, and that was it. Had bad flu once and a couple of dental abscesses. I
have never been better treated. The French have competent, efficient, excellent
doctors and dentists.
Fact: Medicine currently is FOR PROFIT and it's so expensive no one can
afford it without insurance. See a problem here?
Outstanding letter. While we're at it, let's look at Finland's
education system. We can and should learn from other countries.
Mitt speaks fluent French.Mitt spent almost three years of his life
in France.Mitt would be the perfect president to introduce Americans
into the French Healthcare System.From Romneycare to French
Another study conducted by the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine
found that the U.S. had the most deaths that could have been prevented with good
healthcare and France had the least of the 19 industrialized countries. A study
by the commonwealth foundation ranked the US last among six other nations,
although France was not included in the study. Of course the most notable is the
U.S. ranking of 37th by the World Health Organization. In their study of 191
countries, France was ranked number one."Health care spending in the
U.S. towers over the other countries. The U.S. has fewer hospital beds and
physicians, and sees fewer hospital and physician visits, than in most other
countries. Prescription drug utilization, prices, and spending all appear to be
highest in the U.S., as does the supply, utilization, and price of diagnostic
imaging." David A Squire, Senior researcher for the Common Wealth Fund
commenting about health data from eleven countries including France and the U.S.
None of you even seem to give a nod to WHY costs are so high in the United
States. There are two primary reasons: Government regulations and a litigious
society. Those are the cost drivers and they are the things being completely
ignored in our health care debates.
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