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Published: Monday, July 2 2012 10:38 p.m. MDT

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54-10
Salt Lake City, UT

Great choice by a great young man. Always good to see these young men make choices that are much more important than the sport in which they participate.

Good luck of your mission and here's hoping for a great football future for you when you return.

Cougar Passion
Salt Lake City, UT

Re: JP Skillet

"I just wish he realized that he could be a better missionary by staying and playing football and taking BYU to the NC."

Wow--I most seriously have to disagree with that. What is your definition of a "better missionary"? I would frankly take one any day who doesn't think his considerable talent warrants an exemption to the "every worthy young man" directive.

But, given that it apparently isn't completely obvious how some LDS athletes' minds work, let's discuss it. I have a son who plays another sport, who may be very, very good when he is older. He has also committed (at an early age, like Tanner) to serve a mission. And guess what--the idea of being the very best he can be in sports while having people say he would be a better missionary by not going is extremely serious motivation indeed. Tanner Mangum, good luck to you, and I hope you read this.

byufan1993
Provo, , UT

@JP Skillet

Serving for two years makes a far better missionary out of you. That's when you really grind down and do the work. And why not achieve both missionary goals? Go out for two years and serve. Then come back and make the NC. He can do it if he really works for it. And the first is still the far better choice everytime

ImaCaMan
Oceanside, CA

Re: Ed Grady

Don't perish your thoughts just yet. I've never heard anyone speak to an advantage returned missionaries have at the QB (i.e. skilled) position. It's usually referred to Offensive Linemen where two years maturity can be an advantage.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

"How short is the list of BYU quarterbacks who have flourished after returning from two years of service in the mission field? Well, it includes exactly two..." -- Brandon Gurney

"Doman feels that the positives Mangum and others can obtain over those two years greatly outweigh any negatives. 'The tradeoff — with all the leadership skills, the maturity level and everything else — I'd trade that in every time for what you can potentially lose over those two years,' said Doman. 'You just can't substitute what you can gain over the course of a mission and what you come home with. It can be absolutely huge for our players and has proven to be a huge benefit to this program.'" -- Brandon Gurney

Do cougar QBs flourish after their missions, or were there only 2? If there were only 2, than the missions HADN'T been proven as a huge benefit. But if it HAD proven to be a huge benefit, than there had to have been greater than 2 RM QBs who have flourished. So which IS it?

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

"There are disadvantages to the Missionary Program on a team to be sure, but Bronco has turned it to his advantage. He's created a nice 'Farm-System' for himself." -- Bluto

Well, it certainly worked with "Farming" Riley Nelson while recruiting him out from under Utah State while he was on his mission.

"While other play Checkers....Bronco is playing Chess." -- Bluto

And while Bronco is playing Chess, his players are playing "hot potato" with the football. Whittingham and HIS players just line up and play Football. And that's probably why Utah won 7 of the last 10, and pounded Bronco's "Band of Butterfingers" on his Home field to the tune of 54-10.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

ImaCaMan:

"I've never heard anyone speak to an advantage returned missionaries have at the QB (i.e. skilled) position."

Then I suppose you didn't read the article. According to Brandon Gurney, former-cougar-QB turned QB-coach/Offensive Coordinator Brandon Doman, "...feels that the positives Mangum and others can obtain over those two years greatly outweigh any negatives."

"The tradeoff — with all the leadership skills, the maturity level and everything else — I'd trade that in every time for what you can potentially lose over those two years.....You just can't substitute what you can gain over the course of a mission and what you come home with. It can be absolutely huge for our players and has proven to be a huge benefit to this program." -- Brandon Doman

DevilishUte
Tempe, AZ

I admire this young man's decision and his maturity. I especially liked a few of his quotes.

"Fortunately, I decided when I was young that I was going to serve a mission, so before I had all of these opportunities to play in college I already had the goal of going on a mission. It's not something I really thought about not doing," said Mangum.

"It's going to be hard, but I know that I'll be blessed for it and I know it's the right thing to do, so it's not a decision I've ever really struggled with."

Regardless of your religious affiliation, I think this line of thinking will serve him well throughout his life.

IndyWACer 500
Eureka, UT

Umm... see you in a couple years?

Hope you do better than Jakey Boy. I'm sure you will.

vesparider
Pocatello, ID

I was surprised that Tanner was Grayshirting as well. I thought he was heading straight out on a mission but I don't really know when his birthday is. I was wondering if Bronco asked him to Grayshirt just to gage his sense of entitlement compared to Jake Heaps. I think that Bronco made some exceptions during the recruitment of Jake and that it has soured him a little more on how entitled these guys feel while being recruited and the fact that they expect the path to starting to be wide open when they get to the program. I think playing Jake as a true freshman knowing that he wasn't ready to "lead" a team went against just about everything he thinks as a head coach. He doesn't want to ever repeat that again and some recruits won't like that and will take their game to other programs. Bronco will be fine with that but will we as fans?

mightymite
DRAPER, UT

He will regret this decision. He'll loose some skill and get soft. This is a bad decision on so many levels.

UtahBronco
Lehi, UT

Congratulations Tanner for your decision to serve. You won't regret it.

CougarBlue
Heber City, UT

BYU DEEK. Some of the young men in our ward entered the MTC 6 months after receiving their mission call due to Visa issues with the the host country. This may be his situation also.

Rikitikitavi
Cardston, Alberta

Classy Utes abound! Thanks for that!

CO Ute
PARKER, CO

That's perfect. Jordan Wynn will have graduated and after he transfers to the U he can compete with Wilson and Hansen for the QB position.

(Note: the above comment is for all of you that made ridiculous posts about Harvey Langi becoming a Cougar when he finishs his mission.)

Bluto
Sandy, UT

NavalVet

Here you are again?
Three successive posts?
Still consumed with all things BYU..Which dosen't display a great deal of confidence on your part, with your own team.
I thought U and your Utes had moved on?
Too big for BYU?
Then act like it!

However, we all know you can't, as you hang on every little tidbit of news on BYU Athletics, as you feel a need to counter anything positive on BYU.
You have a chronic case of an Inferiority Complex.

-Fourty years of BYU domination in all Sports
-Watching BYU produce All-Americans by a ratio of 5-1
-National Award winners
-Hall of Famers
-Big & full Stadiums and Arenas
-Legacy Programs
-National Fan Base
-Major Network exposure

Has taken it's toll on you.....

Remedies...

-Thou shalt not Covet.
-Celebrate your Big Brothers achievements (don't be jealous)
-Try to equal BYU's achievements.
-Settle on a mascot...Utes, Red Tailed Hawks...Red Rocks......pick one!
-Go Fishing and Salute the Y.

Finally..
Obtain a sense of humor, the long BYU shadow will still always hang over you, but at least you'll be able to laugh about it..

Prep Fanatic
Los Angeles, CA

I am all for young men serving a two year mission, and I take my hat off to Tanner for sticking to his deciscion. However, I have followed BYU football for many, many years, and do have to say that in my opinion, Tanner will never attain greatness as a BYU quarterback following his mission. Most of the time when stellar athletes in high school leave for missions, they are never the same when they return. There is a big list of athletes, that were great high school players, and then left on missions, only to return and just be mediocre players at best. So you BYU fans that think Tanner is going to break this mold, I wouldn't hold your breath. Two years is a long time to be away from football. But Tanner, I admire you for your choice, and wish you the best success during and following your mission!

sg
newhall, CA

Big mistake. Life is not always about serving a mission in one's youth. He would serve better by playing football and becoming an "on the field" example. I don't see the passing of a mission by Steve Young as a deterrent. The good Lord bless this kid with talents. To put them on hold, why? He can serve a mission when his career is over. There is no commandment that says every young man MUST serve. And sorry, but there is never a guarantee that serving a mission will bring untold blessings. That is not a firm truth. It is more folklore. To add pressure on any young man's life as to what he should or shouldn't do by the time he is 19 is ridiculous. It is and should be his choice, not the 'pressured' choice of his parents or even the church. I detest the adage, "Every young man should serve a mission." No, every young man shouldn't and doesn't have to. As a culture, we equate success with serving a mission. No church has the right to connote success with serving a mission. It is a false truth.

beefstew
Taylorsville, UT

I love college football more than any other sport spectacle and haven't missed attending a home Ute game for years. But football fails to compare to serving in the capacity of a missionary for someone that has made that a goal. I look back at the mission experience and the rewards play dramatically into my professional career and most importantly my responsibility as a husband and father.

gonefishn
Salt Lake City, UT

Gray shirt, 2 year mission, redshirt followed by 4 years of elligibility. Home boy is going to be 26 when he gets done playing.

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