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Published: Tuesday, July 3 2012 12:00 a.m. MDT

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jill17
Salt Lake City, UT

BRAVO! And thank you!!

KJB1
Eugene, OR

The death of any child is a tragedy and speaking as a parent, I think that there's no hole deep enough to throw that kind of monster into.

That said, this article is nothing but hysteria, biased assumptions, and faulty logic. If you want to take a honest look at how people use porn and the effect it has on their lives, fine. However, not everyone who has a glass of wine with dinner becomes a raging alcoholic and the overwhelming majority of people who view pornography live normal lives. If everybody who did were a killer, society would be on the verge of extinction. Don't you realize that?

It's really sad that you're using something like the deaths of children as a moral bludgeon, but this is the Deseret News. Why should I be surprised?

Twin Lights
Louisville, KY

KJB1,

Agreed that all who drink a glass of wine are not alcoholics nor that all who ever viewed pornography have turned into monsters.

But all alcohol is not wine and all pornography is not a simple sexual act between two consenting adults. There are a host of other issues introduced into pornography (violence and coercion among them).

Further, we regulate alcohol more than we do pornography. The only requirement for pornography is to be 18. But to drink you have to be 21 in many states. We limit what alcohol can be mixed with (witness the recent furor over mixing it with energy drinks). We do not impose such limitations on pornography. Mix it with violence? No problem. Add girls who look underage? Fine (they’re not, right?). Add a teacher having sex with boys in her class? Sure (after all, the male actors just look young).

If we defend pornography do we also defend the industry? Would we feel good about our family member pursuing such a career? If not, why not?

I believe it is because, at its foundation, we know it to be exploitative to its participants. Why would we support such an industry?

booshway
Woods Cross, UT

If the author means "us" meaning the ACLU and other liberals and lawyers and judges who think the First Amendment to the Constitution means freedom of speech means pornography is "protected" speech then he is right. Otherwise, the rest of us would like to see some good old fashioned morality applied and the laws restored that treated this JUNK like what it is - an anchor on our society, pulling it down.
(In case anyone has forgotten, freedom of speech is about We The People being able to speak freely about or gov't, good OR bad without penalty or harrassment)

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

‘Sierra Newbold a victim of America's apathy to VIOLENCE problem’
would be more accurate since this opinion piece is nothing but an opinion based on speculation.

As soon as they find out who did these things, then you can throw accusations as to why around, otherwise it's just the usual Dnews weekly anti-porn rant.

Do the old men taking child brides in southern Utah, do so because of porn on the internet? or Because of religious beliefs?

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

booshway said:
If the author means "us" meaning the ACLU and other liberals and lawyers and judges who think the First Amendment to the Constitution means freedom of speech means pornography is "protected" speech then he is right. . Otherwise, the rest of us would like to see some good old fashioned morality applied and the laws restored.

Fortunately "Freedom of speech" is not limited to "religions" view of freedom, or no one would be free.
I hear that most of the middle east agrees with you however, and religion still dictates your (moral) speech by law.

CB
Salt Lake City, UT

If we were given every detail of what these victims suffers at the hands of these sadist killers, even the ACLU would find that worth chucking the First Amendment in the case of pornography.
This begins with a progressive, ongoing succession of bad behaviors before they reach the point of desiring to gain their high with killing. And once they have experienced this thrill, it has to be re-experienced and eventually ending up in a Jeffrey Dahmer type scenario.

zabivka
Orem, UT

While much of hardcore pornography is pure filth, I can't imagine you can really show any sort of causation in this case. In fact, it's more tenuous than people who want to increase gun control, because the guns kill people.

The fact is there are some people who are violent, and they commit violent acts. You can blame whatever medium you want, but getting the government to come in and control everything isn't the answer, either. People want to pin it on something and just say, "well if you'd just have better gun control," or "if we could just get rid of the porn problem," but the truth is that if everyone who compulsively looked at porn or owned a gun was out raping and killing, the Earth wouldn't have much of a "human problem" anymore.

Nan BW
ELder, CO

Many convicted killers of woman whom they have sexually attacked before killing them have admitted they were porn addicts. I don't think we have a statistical base for determining what percentage that would be, but it would be enlightening. I personally believe that porn addiciton can and does often lead to violent behavior. The writer of the opinions (this is an opinion section) does make valid points.

Mormoncowboy
Provo, Ut

This article makes my head hurt. We know very little about this situation, and the author has already blamed pornography. There was a time when I would come on this site and try and argue logic. It's just not worth it.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Murder is a form of desenification.

Killing bugs
Killing rodents
Killing stray cats & dogs
Finally killing humans.

Hunters who own many guns are statistically more likely to snap and kill someone in cold blood than a late night reclusive homebody sufing the internet for porn.

BTW - Porn is a problem in America.

Maybe we should be more like the evil Socialist Europeans and restict the free and easy access to it.

The ball is in your freedom loving court Patriotic, Constitution Loving [hypocritical] Conservatives.

Personally, I think the Europeans are ahead of us in many things -- Access to Porn, Healthcare, non-agressive wars, ect.....

dtellstarr2002
Taylorsville, UT

The problem with the Sierra Newbold homicide is the lack of outrage. It was determined to be a homicide and the police stated that it was "isolated" and "they were reviewing video footage from a security camera" and then...the fires took over everyone's attention. This is a murder! There is still a culprit running around and the case is unsolved! The lack of news about the police searching for and finding the monster that did this is appalling to me. Can wee be SO callous that we don't care if little girls are not safe in their own bedrooms at night? Whatever it takes to bring this case to the attention of the police and public is OK with me. These crimes can't go unnoticed nor unsolved!

EJM
Herriman, UT

We live in a world where the evils of the past are more "front page" than ever before. Does that make people less concerned about this tragedy or that tragedy? According to this author and to other posters on here the answer is yes. I disagree. We want instant fixes and results and answers when at times there is no answer, no fix, no result. Rather than rail against that system I would say consider, if you would please, the words of Ghandi: "Be the change you seek in the world".

What I mean by this is make certain that you are kind to others and encourage them to be kind to everyone they come into contact with. Take care of your little pond and over time your "pond" will become bigger. Ultimately if we all did that rather than rail against what the "man " is doing or not doing we will all be better off.

awsomeron1
Oahu, HI

This is all so very sad. However it has very little to do with Porn. It has to do with males committing sex crimes and sex crimes against little children, and this is of course wrong and when caught and convicted the Death Penalty should be used all the time and as quickly as possible. I do not care what social imbalance that they may have. Most people who have had a tough time don't offend. Most people who view Porn don't offend. Some people who don't view Porn do offend.

Porn may have something to do with it and child porn in and of its self is against the law. However it is what people do after viewing the porn, not the Porn that's the problem.

Porn is Legal over 18 and people in their general free agency are free to view it and they do. 24/7/365 if you don't like that then change the law. I might support you, but I warn you, When Freedom Of Speech starts to go, so won't Freedom of Religion. It is not the Porn Viewed or not, it is the action of man.

USMCer
POST FALLS, ID

The assertion that "we" killed Destiny is reprehensible and untrue. "We" didn't kill her. However those who find gratification in thoughts of raping and murdering young children do. Pornography, though also reprehensible is only an enabler to these people and only keeps the already-formulated fantasy alive.
Although I would wholeheartedly support the banning of all porn sales in this country, I doubt that getting rid of porn would diminish the unspeakable acts of these monsters. These people have infested society long before porn and will continue to do so long after porn.

JSB
Sugar City, ID

We may not be able to outlaw all porn. But, who are the people who are producing and distributing this stuff? It shouldn't be too difficult to identify the people who own and sell porn in the "adult" stores in Salt Lake City and publish their names and addresses. With a little more digging perhaps we could find other people getting rich on this filth. Perhaps if people knew their identities would be exposed, they might be a lot less inclined to participate.

Down2U
Salt Lake, UT

I was dismayed to see your insensitivity skipped right over Hser Ner Moo, whose death was no less appalling. They are all tragic and , so far, all isolated. Until police release more details, you don't know what was behind it.

Climberswife
Midvale, UT

I was secretary to Dr. W. Cleon Skousen and my son was raised with Brad Newbold and his wife was our young women leader in our ward where Brads nieces introduced them and they got married. Brad's father was our bishop when my husband I got married and we live3 on the Newbold homestead land in Fort Union and the Newbold wellhouse is in our back yard. We love this family and none of us will ever be the same again. I have worked with Mr. Ward and Mr. Harmer and We are lucky to have these wonderful men taking a look at this problem. My husband and I have raised 13 children... 9 adopted and some of them have been victims of this type of abuse and some of their parents are currently incarcerated for these crimes... I pray and hope there will be more concrete answers in dealing with people, who get involved in pornography themselves victims in their own upbringings. My children will face their abuse the rest of their lives and we as their parents face it too.... It's a terrible thing for us all...... Our prayers are with all who suffers....Lynda Kimball Richards

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