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Letter: Obama deserves credit for falling gas prices

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  • JoeCapitalist2 Orem, UT
    June 28, 2012 8:33 a.m.

    To RedneckLefty who wrote "I blame Obama for my dinner getting cold. Also, for this rash on my leg. And that dead spot on my lawn. Obama is ruining everything."

    I don't know if you were entirely sarcastic or just being mildly humorous, but if you substituted "Bush" for "Obama" it would have reflected a lot of opinions of those on the left a few years ago.

    Many who think Obama is being unfairly criticised, getting blamed for things he did not cause, or whine because he doesn't get credit for any good news by Republicans, were often guilty of doing the exact same thing when Bush was in office.

    Hypocrisy is rampant in politics (both sides).

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 28, 2012 3:59 a.m.

    L White.

    I am sad that you feel that you are just a woman.

    The affliction that you exhibit is not limited to just women, it also hampers the proper use of the brain in men, possible more than in women.

    The complexity of the moving about the goods and products for the American consumer is mind boggling. If distance was the only factor, goods made in China would not compete with goods made in America.

    Open up your eyes and see the real world and not just accept the world as others see it. The real nature of the world is the constant struggle for wealth and power. All the events of the world, the conditions of life, the happiness found is based upon successful accumulation of wealth.

    For the most part we are only little people in a world of giants, corporations, religions, nations, but we are Americans and just might someday rival the importance of these giants.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    June 27, 2012 8:42 p.m.

    Wow. These posts clearly illustrate the poisonous influence of conservative media twisting of facts and then broadcasting it to gullible listeners.

  • RedneckLefty St. George, UT
    June 27, 2012 7:52 p.m.

    I blame Obama for my dinner getting cold. Also, for this rash on my leg. And that dead spot on my lawn. Obama is ruining everything.

  • It will only hurt a little SLC, UT
    June 27, 2012 7:44 p.m.

    If we drill in every state and prices fall to a penny per gallon, how long do you think our supplies would last? I think preserving our natural resources is a wise decision.

  • It will only hurt a little SLC, UT
    June 27, 2012 7:38 p.m.

    The issue is not if Obama should receive credit, it is why did he received blame in the first place? Roland stated his purpose clearly in his comment below, it was simply meant to get people to think about the ridiculousness of the GOP's accusations. There are many reasons for restricting drilling in the US, it isn't simply about the cost of gas.

  • WestGranger West Valley City, Utah
    June 27, 2012 3:49 p.m.

    The gas prices went down in spite of Obama.

  • Hemlock Salt Lake City, UT
    June 27, 2012 3:20 p.m.

    Yes, Obama deserves credit for lower gas prices. The lower price is due to reduced demand resulting from the miserable economy. Obama certainly gets credit for that.

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 27, 2012 2:40 p.m.

    Tekakaromatagi

    Actually I don’t have a name for the monopoly that controls the world price of oil. My opinion comes from what I observe happening in the world.

    I believe that they or their representatives met with our government leaders in secret to plan and execute the Iraq war to eliminate an uncooperative competitor and take control of the Iraqi oil.

    I think OPEC is only a front.

    I believe that they have the power to manipulate the price of energy to reward or punish nations, and states.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    June 27, 2012 2:36 p.m.

    This is what happens to people who have put Party Politics ahead of their Country.

    Pathetic

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    June 27, 2012 2:26 p.m.

    L White
    Springville, UT
    What's the matter with the male mind? Even us ladies know that hauling tankers full of oil half way around the world costs more than running oil through a pipeline.

    ================

    You passed math,
    but failed Economics because you clearly do not know Global Markets or Global Economics....

    that Oil is sent to the U.S.
    to be Refined
    And is then tankered back over to Asia and Europe who pay U.S. Companies top $$$ on the GLOBAL Market.

    Oil is sold on an OPEN market.
    Are you suggesting we should Nationalizing America's oil reserves?
    That is what you imply.
    Socializing and Nationaling the America oil industry -- like that Socialist/Communist Hugo Chavez in Venezuela
    or
    The Islamic Monachy of Saudia Arabia perhaps?

    I don't know - you tell me what it is you want.
    Free Market Capitalism America
    or
    Nationalized/Socialist America

    BTW - Nice lame attempt with your
    [you wouldn't dare hit an tired old woman with glasses] shtick
    Using your gender, age or anything else to cower and hide behind was pathetic.

  • JoeCapitalist2 Orem, UT
    June 27, 2012 1:18 p.m.

    As usual, politicians and their supporters want to take all the credit when cyclical trends are moving in a positive direction and deflect all the blame when the trends move in a negative direction. Both sides do it so it isn't a Republican or Democrat issue.

    That isn't to say that specific policies of the president do not have any effect on things like the economy, oil prices, or mortgage rates. They can often cause dramatic effects.

    I would be happy to give Obama credit for falling oil prices if you can point to one thing he has done to make that happen. (Driving down demand by ruining the economy doesn't count.)

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    June 27, 2012 1:18 p.m.

    Ha!! This is funny. Name one thing Obama has done to influence falling gas prices. ONE!!! There are none. I can name many things that he has done to drive the price to over $4 a gallon however. The man hasn't even been pretending to be president for the past several months anyway - he has been spending 99% of his time campaigning -mostly with his Hollywood millionaires. What a farce and a disgrace this man is.

  • L White Springville, UT
    June 27, 2012 1:11 p.m.

    What's the matter with the male mind? Even us ladies know that hauling tankers full of oil half way around the world costs more than running oil through a pipeline. The President will not allow that pipeline to be built so we have to buy our oil from places that are about as far away from America as you can get. The President will not allow us Utahns to extract the oil from our own State. He will not allow the people of Wyoming to extract the oil from their State. He will not allow the people of Colorado to extract the oil from their State. He tells us that the military costs too much, but at the same time he makes sure that we have to buy most of our oil from an area of the world that would destroy us if we did not have a strong military.

    Distance = higher prices.

    No pipeline = higher prices.

    Military protection = higher prices.

    No drilling in America's vast oil fields = higher prices.

    Obama = distance + no pipeline + military protection + no drilling.

    I'm just a woman, but I can do simple math. Can you?

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 27, 2012 12:25 p.m.

    @lost in DC and Mountanman
    Pushed the economy back into the dumps? Economy falling? We've gained private sector jobs 28 straight months. Job growth was fairly steady when gas prices shot up and when they shot back down. If you're going to just grasp at straws at least check to see if there's any substance to the logic.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 27, 2012 12:21 p.m.

    @Mike Richards
    "He did not cause the price drop."

    He didn't cause the increase either. Neither did Bush when he had his spikes and falls. Are you willing to admit that the President has little influence on gas (we can drill all we want but we're not a socialist nation so the oil companies will just take oil wherever in the world they get the most profit out of, which makes drilling have a negligible effect on gas prices) or do you want to just continue ranting?

  • Brother Chuck Schroeder A Tropical Paradise USA, FL
    June 27, 2012 11:58 a.m.

    HAIL to Chief Obama for falling gas prices.

    Obama
    2012

    All the GOP care about is more guns for the hunters, subsidies for the Koch Brother's and their "Rich and Famous" friends and more tax breaks for them alone. Yes that's "welfare for the rich" government subsidies to big business, pork-barrel Pentagon contracts to weapons makers, huge tax breaks for wealthy individuals, and most recently, colossal contracts for reconstruction to politically connected companies like Halliburton. RINO/GOP bureaucrats and politicians in Washington DC reminds me of "Elite Showdogs" that is an invitation-only e-mail list of long-time breeders, K Street and Wall Street exhibitors and judges that are judicial activist's. These politicians in Washington DC wear a GPS collar attachment to be found faster, so these K Street and Wall Street exhibitors can walk them around using a chain in circles until their dizzy enough to cave into them and give them what they want.

    Is this the elite's agenda for enslaving the human race. With alcohol fuel, you can't become energy independent, reverse global warming, like the Koch Brother's want you to believe.

  • Tekakaromatagi Dammam, Saudi Arabia
    June 27, 2012 11:58 a.m.

    @Mountainman:

    Although I would prefer that you were correct, I disagree. Respectfully.
    I understand that the average fuel economy for new cars has improved 20%. If that is the case, Obama deserves credit if he has mandated tighter restrictions on fuel economy for new cars. That will reduce demand for gasoline.
    (Not approving the Keystone Pipeline was a mistake however).

    It may also be related to fracking. Fracking has changed the energy market fundamentally.

  • Tekakaromatagi Dammam, Saudi Arabia
    June 27, 2012 11:39 a.m.

    @Ultrabob:

    "No. Gasoline prices are set by the monopoly according to their own agenda."

    Ultrabob: what monopoly are you talking about? Enlighten us.

  • Tekakaromatagi Dammam, Saudi Arabia
    June 27, 2012 11:37 a.m.

    @LDS Liberal:

    "I didn't blame Bush for the high price of gas last round either.
    Just for the Wars he started and the Gas guzzling SUVs that Detroit built that nearly ruined destroyed them as well."

    Blame Bush for the wars. Not for the SUVs, that was a loophole that the Clinton administration put in to keep union jobs with the UAW. They allowed SUVs to be defined as trucks so they were not counted in the car company average fuel economy per vehicle. Big cars - big profits and that kept the UAW strong. US daily oil consumption was trending down through the 1970's and 1980's as the economy became more fuel efficient. When it got the 1990's, it remained constant because of SUVs.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    June 27, 2012 10:55 a.m.

    Repubs never let facts get in the way of their opinions.

    They have merely been playing games for the past 4 years. They act as if there was no President between Clinton and Obama. Every problem that we face is the direct result of Obama. Repubs blame him for everything while on the other hand never give him credit.

    This gas price thing is just another example of that. A few months ago, repubs blamed him for the high gas prices. Now that they're lower, credit is no where to be found.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    June 27, 2012 10:47 a.m.

    Happy Valley Heretic
    Orem, UT
    So...I guess what Mike is saying is, it only works one way like the republican party bosses tell him. Blame Obama for everything give him credit for nothing, facts be darned.

    By the way I don't think Obama brought the price down, but I was never foolish enough to believe he drove the price up either. It's an international market and America Doesn't have enough oil to drive prices down if we could magically get it all tomorrow.

    7:53 a.m. June 27, 2012

    =======

    Agreed.
    and well said; Happy Valley Heretic

    Political agenda - right Mike?

    Roland Kayser

    Another great letter....

    I didn't blame Bush for the high price of gas last round either.
    Just for the Wars he started and the Gas guzzling SUVs that Detroit built that nearly ruined destroyed them as well.

    Shows the one-sided analysis of facts and reality and the hypocrasy used by the GOP for politcal gain.

  • Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 27, 2012 10:23 a.m.

    Just to be clear, I don't think the President did anything to drive prices up, nor did he do anything to get them lower. I also didn't blame Bush when prices went over $4.00 a gallon. It's just that "Obama is to blame for high gas prices" has been constant GOP refrain over the past few months. Letter writers don't compose the headlines to their letters, the DNews does.

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    June 27, 2012 10:05 a.m.

    Roland did he and his supporters take credit for the prises going up? No they argued it was out of his control. No blame no credit.

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 27, 2012 9:49 a.m.

    No. Gasoline prices are set by the monopoly according to their own agenda.

  • Bifftacular Spanish Fork, Ut
    June 27, 2012 9:23 a.m.

    Roland, your letter's premise assumes that oil prices are falling and will stay down. I'm laughing at that notion as I write this. Have you looked at the historical prices of gasoline in the past few years? It has been a steady incline with multiple and temporary ups and downs in the meantime. This decline is temporary. Do you want to know why? A) Obama is doing everything he possibly can to get reelected, B) Obama never has been and never will be a friend of the oil industry. So gas prices have come down a few cents the past few days - big whoop. Look at the overall increase since Obama took office. If Obama gets reelected in Nov and gas prices continue to drop and permanently stay down, I'll buy your first tank of gas.

  • SEY Sandy, UT
    June 27, 2012 9:22 a.m.

    The question shouldn't be who gets credit for falling fuel prices, it should be who gets the blame. Falling fuel prices means we won't be able to compete with imported oil prices. Thousands of oil workers could lose their jobs! Isn't that our most pressing concern in this economy? Do we really want to lose more jobs to cheap foreign labor?

    Wasn't Al Gore on the right track when he supported the Kyoto Protocol that would raise the price of fossil fuel use? Didn't he also advocate taxing gasoline so that it would approach prices found in Europe? Isn't that what we really need?

    Someone must do something about this! Call your congresscritters!

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    June 27, 2012 9:14 a.m.

    How true. If Republican critics want to blame him for all things bad, but they should also credit him with all things good. But I don't expect honesty and integrity from the GOP.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    June 27, 2012 8:41 a.m.

    Roland,
    Of course BO is responsible for falling gas prices. Gas prices are falling because BO pushed the economy back into the dumps, reducing demand.

  • Twin Lights Louisville, KY
    June 27, 2012 8:22 a.m.

    Roland,

    Of course not. But then, I think that Presidents have little influence one way or the other on oil prices.

    So I give him little credit (or blame).

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    June 27, 2012 8:02 a.m.

    The only reason oil prices are falling is because of the failing economy reducing demand for oil. So, yes, Obama must get credit! On the other hand, he told us drilling for more oil (increasing the supply) would not drive down oil prices! So we see once again, that Obama has no clue about economics, none, zilch, nada!

  • SEY Sandy, UT
    June 27, 2012 8:01 a.m.

    Hold the phone! What happened to the most dreaded word in a Keynesian's vocabulary: DEFLATION?

    One of the primary reasons the Federal Reserve was created was to stabilize prices. What are they going to do about falling fuel prices? The horror! In fact, they announced not long ago that they intended to help prices rise at a 2-3% annual rate. Think of all the jobs that could be lost with falling fuel prices. If they let fuel prices fall, what's next? Talk about hypocrisy!

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    June 27, 2012 7:53 a.m.

    So...I guess what Mike is saying is, it only works one way like the republican party bosses tell him. Blame Obama for everything give him credit for nothing, facts be darned.

    By the way I don't think Obama brought the price down, but I was never foolish enough to believe he drove the price up either. It's an international market and America Doesn't have enough oil to drive prices down if we could magically get it all tomorrow.

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    June 27, 2012 7:50 a.m.

    Re: "Are they going to give him credit now that prices are falling?"

    Sure -- I'll give him the credit.

    As we now know, the current increased in supply is the result of an under-the-table deal to overproduce that Obama made during his visit to the Saudis. As part of his re-election strategy.

    Now, the real questions -- why didn't he do it sooner? And how long after the election will the deal last?

    And, most importantly, why is he fighting EVERY plan that would make us less dependent on his buddies, the Saudis?

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    June 27, 2012 7:47 a.m.

    So Mike why did prices fall? Could it be that the President has little to nothing to do with current pump prices, and Republicans were "just playing politics" (I don't remember if you had anything to say at the time)?

  • Tulip West Jordan, UT
    June 27, 2012 7:45 a.m.

    I don't know Roland...do your own homework. Does he deserve credit or not? What do you care what Republicans think? Dig deep, find the truth. If Obama's policies are causing the decline you have nothing to fear. Republicans are not the reason for anyone's intellectual laziness.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    June 27, 2012 7:09 a.m.

    How can Obama claim credit for falling gas prices when he has fought to stop oil production on public lands in America? He has actively lobbied against EVERYTHING that makes drilling possible. He has fought to keep the Keystone pipeline from being built.

    He has "lent" $2,000,000,000 to his close associate, George Soros, to explore drilling off the coast of Brazil, even as he refused to let American companies drill in the Gulf of Mexico. His ban on American drilling did not stop other countries from drilling.

    Obama is no friend to oil. He has publicly stated that the price should be $5.00 per gallon. His only reservation is that he thought that it would take a little longer to reach that price.

    No, Obama will get no praise for falling prices. He did not cause the price drop. He deserves our contempt for HIS open contempt towards OUR need for oil so that we can get to work and products can get to market.

  • embarrassed Utahn! Salt Lake City, UT
    June 27, 2012 6:47 a.m.

    Don't hold you breath waiting. The victory in November will be that much sweeter knowing how much it fills sore-losers with frustration (yes, Mitt would likely have gas down to $2.00/gal in his first 30 days, right?).

    President Obama is absolutely deserving of another term! What a great man and a great leader to continue fixing what 8 years of Bush did to our country!