Esquire, You seem to be overlooking the fact that in order to do theraputic
riding, you don't really need an 'Olympic' horse. I have a
mustang that I adopted and an arabian that I paid less than $100 for. the
expensive part is feeding the critters. they eat even when they aren't
being ridden. also, the tack is very expensive, but if someone I knew needed to
ride for therapy, I'd be glad to let them ride mine.
Maybe people would be more sensitive to the plight of the rich if candidates
like Mrs. Romney's husband did not vilify the poor. Mitt Romney likes to
rant that "50% of Americans don't pay taxes," while ignoring the
reason; poverty. There is a well established class war going on in this
country, but it is those at the top who are waging it. The
scriptures are full of accounts of corruption that begins with the wealthy. I
don't remember reading about any society falling because of the poor. In
fact, in the Book of Mormon, the pride cycle always starts with the rich. "The earth is the Lord's, and the fullness thereof."
(Psalms 24:1) That means all of our stuff is on loan from God, to see how we
will use it and care for our brothers and sisters. Congrats to all who have
"made it," but get over yourselves and stop playing the victim.
Mountainman - are you absolutely kidding? Ms. Obama encouraging people to eat
healthy is an issues for you. How in the world have you been "forced"
to eat anything different because of what Ms. Obama has said or done. This kind
of over reaching statemetns just prove there is no room for reasonable
discussion. Mayor Bloomberg is not more and agent of the Obamas than you
are.And every first lady has had a pet issues they champion while
living in the White House. With Ms. Bush, it was education. Another it was
"just say no to drugs".Ann Romeny hasn't been picked on
by anyone. This is just more politicals of victimization. I am beginning to
feel this is the only platform the conservatives have left. It is like being
foreced to watch "the View" and "Dr. Phil" over and over. I have confidence that Ann Romeny can handle this attention. I doubt
this is the first time she has been in the spot light. This isn't the
first time she and her husband have been the focus of attention. The Romneys
made their business their running creditials. Review and debate of those
creditials is very fare.
@patriotAs opposed to Romney's team who attacked Obama for commenting
about the Kevin Youkilis trade? Please, don't pretend that conservatives
don't enjoy a worthless pot shot themselves.
@Rifleman,Romney may look better on a horse but I bet Clinton rides
one better. ; )
@KDave"The war on success plays well with the not so
intelligent. Others realize that if their boss is not successful they will soon
be unemployed."It's not a war on success. It's a war
on people pleasing and being phony. The Romney's constantly try to appease
the general population and 'pretend' they're on the same level
and have common ground .... while they enjoy their mustangs, cadillacs, 1k
shirts, horse riding, etc.Success is the foundation of the american
dream. Nobody should be criticized for becoming successful, if ethically. The
successful shouldn't pretend they're like the middle class though,
especially when you were born very wealthy and didn't have to work through
the middle class to become successful. Just be real and honest. I'm rich, you guys aren't. I'm going to help balance budgets
and get our economy rich again. I'm good at it.I'd buy
that. I don't buy the appeasement.
@ Mcbillay. Michelle Obama would love to force the rest of us to eat what she
tells us we can (Mayor Bloomberg and his silly 16oz rule). Ann Romney only
enjoys riding her horse! See the difference now?
I have MS and am disgusted with the comments here. MS is a nasty disease.
I'm lucky that I am still able to walk. Fatigue is a major problem, so a
horse get help you get exercise without tiring you as much. I like to see
someone getting help. I had a student when I was teaching school who was
failing. Her Mom, who isn't rich, got her riding lessons and her daughter
started to finally succeed. So horseback riding works for MS and other problems.
It's wonderful that she can afford to do it and it looks like she helps
other people with MS get help. Until you understand the disease, stop putting
down someone who has found a way, no matter the expense, to help them cope with
the disease. Go Ann!
I really fail to see the conflict here. YES, owning a horse, when used in a
certain way IS a business expense. It makes perfect sense to me! And if she gets
health benefits from riding, well, great, the horse isn't sitting around
all day unloved and uncared for. People really need to get over themselves, and
start focusing on the issues.
These are such silly arguments... Google a search on the net worth of our
presidents. None but Truman in the 19th century really knew anything of the
daily struggles that most Americans face. Consideration of an
individual’s wealth as a prerequisite for the Presidency of the United
States is only a false issue raised by opponents of Mitt Romney to add to their
justification for opposing his candidacy. You can oppose his candidacy based on
a number of factors but his personal wealth being an indicator of being out of
touch is just plain silly. By that measurement, All our presidents have been
out of touch.
The problem is not that Ann Romney rides horses, and it's not that the
horses are very prices -- the Romneys are filthy-rich, and can spend their money
however they want. The problem is not that they run their horse operation as a
business, taking a deduction for their horses that is considerably more than
most families make. The problem is the business practices of that horse
operation. The problem is that Ann and her partners over-medicated a horse (a
horse with a defect in its foreleg) so that it would pass a veterinarian's
examination when the horse stopped being useful to Ann and her partners as a
horse to ride in dressage performances (it was being sold to another dressage
rider as a rideable horse, contrary to what they knew about its status). The
buyer sued, and the case settled out of court (Ann was dropped as a defendant as
part of the settlement). Ann's spokesperson says the case was
"frivolous" but the facts say otherwise.Ann, like Mitt, does
not operate with clean hands. That fact should be known. THAT is the big issue
concerning her horses.
Why do unsuccessful people almost always try to drag people who are more
successful than themselves down to their level? This is especially prevalent in
the Democratic party! It would seem to me that we should admire people who are
successful and try to emulate them. Success should be everyone's role model
instead of class warfare and punishing success! Does doing the opposite somehow
excuse or elevate the detractor or does it just deminish our entire culture?
"The Democrats are just jealous that Ann Romney looks better riding her
horse than Hillary Clinton would .... on her best day."Pretty
much says it all, doesn't it. Remember all the attacks on Janet Reno as
well. What next, "I know you are, but what am I".
"Never mind the heroic battles this woman has fought ... and is still
fighting with cancer and MS "Is the the same consideration you
gave the Edwards family? You know... the lady who died from Cancer... but the
conservatives still dragger her and her family through the mud because of
actions of her husband. I think there are plenty of "media vultures"
out there.Do you not notice the garbage Fox puts up on their
"Features and Faces" section. Please, lets try to have a little
balance here. The "vulture media" has gone after them all.... the
Romeny's are not getting special treatment, either way. If they and their
supporters can't handle it, perhaps they had better seek another line of
work. The media is picking on the poor Romney's.... oh please.
Re: Hutterite American Fork, UT"Attacking people on the way they look.
setting the bar even lower, way to go!"I thought you said
"It's politics, and everything is fair game on both sides of the
table"? What you really mean is that it's OK to attack Ann Romney but
"hands off" on Hillary.
The impetus behind this story is Ann Romney's assertion that the Obamas are
'elitists'. Owning $100,000 horses would qualify as elitist to most.
But I guess it's only wrong if you're not a republican.The
horse is my business if they get a $77 grand tax write-off. Her horses are
either a hobby or a business but not both if she wants to avoid the criticism.
Why are the democrats and their cronies making such a big deal out of Ann
Romney's horse?One word: desperation!!
Because the left wing media - like the vultures they are - need to pick at any
piece of conservative meat they can find and if they can't find any meat
they will pick at bone or hair or whatever.... Never mind the heroic
battles this woman has fought ... and is still fighting with cancer and MS ...
no sir let's ignore all that and instead "look" for dirt or make up
some dirt if none exists. Now let's take a look at this same media and how
they cover Mrs Obama. Have they once focused on her lavish vacations ? Nope.
Have they said a word about her "not being proud of her country"
statement? Nope. As this election seasons heats up the media bias is sickening
.... but all too predictable. The bottom line - MSNBC, CNN, NBC, Time and
Newsweek magazine etc... are nothing more and nothing less than cheap
propaganda hacks for team Obama. People dumb enough to believe this garbage
shouldn't be voting anyway. Geez.... do some REAL research people and stop
listening to amateur propaganda.
Rifleman said:The Democrats are just jealous that Ann Romney looks better
riding her horse than Hillary Clinton would .... on her best day.Attacking people on the way they look. setting the bar even lower, way to go!
I am all for Ann Romney having a horse she loves and using it both for health
and MS therapy.As to them having success more power to them. I live on $743.00
per month and have MS. I too use horse therapy for balance cost me nothing but
the owners get a business tax break from it. Where is the difference? Oh yea I
am not successful and not running for President. I could be in Ann's shoes
but my successful husband couldn't stick with a wife with MS that is why he
put on the divorce papers. good riddance and I am doing fine with my MS and
Re: Hutterite American Fork, UT"It's politics, and everything is
fair game on both sides of the table."The Democrats are just
jealous that Ann Romney looks better riding her horse than Hillary Clinton would
.... on her best day.
This is what bugs me about the Romney's. I don't care that they are
rich. I care that they are rich and try and act like they are not. It makes them
look like they think The People are too stupid to figure out they are rich. Your
rich, so just admit it. I don't trust someone who can't admit what
It's politics, and everything is fair game on both sides of the table. Even
the romneys, gilded as they are in the DN, are fair game in the real world.
"And how many people who could use therapeutic riding will have access to it
or be able to afford it? Few, which highlights the fact that the Romney's,
who I have no doubt are fundamentally decent people, are not like the rest of us
and don't get it."First: it's their money - not tax
money that the obama's use for their vacations to spain, etc.Seond: odonell meant a criticism of Ann Romney. That is odonell's
schtick. If you haven't heard him, then you don't know. He is crude
to the max!Second, Mrs Romney volunteers at riding places where
children and adults, with problems, come to ride these wonderful animals.
Third: I read the story several weeks ago in the wonderful grey lady -
NYT's. The picture showed Ann Romney on her horse and she looked just
beautiful. So they think they were hurting her and the comments after were so
complimentary of Mrs Romney that it completely backfired. That's why
odonell had to find another way to farme it.Romney's use their money
- obama's use our tax money!
Hemlock"The venal campaign tactics of Obama through his puppets,
Hillary Rosen, Bill Maher, Lawrence Odonnell, Jay Carney and others has no lower
limits."Yes Hemlock, Rush's ranting about about a college a girl
being a ***** (EDITED FOR DNEWS, yet strangely printed in it's pages
earlier), were about as low as you can set the bar. But when compared with
the "you haven't worked" Attack on Ann, it's just so much more
vicious then suggesting your a porn star. yep I see your point. Or this
whole "Attack" is just being repeated over and over so that the weak
minded believe what they hear from their single source fair and balanced
comedian team known as fox.
The primary issue is the tax deduction they take on the horse that is larger
than the average income for an American family. The rest of the amusement with
it is similar to that time Kerry went windsurfing and that was considered out of
Are the folks who claim Mrs. Romney is the subject of unfair criticism the same
ones who have subjected the first lady of the United States to relentless
ridicule and tasteless attacks ever since her husband rose to prominence?It seems a lack of civility and decorum might be the one piece of common
ground in an increasingly hostile political battleground.
I read a dozen papers a day.... and this is the first I have heard of it being
an issue. Perhaps we are trying to solve an problem that doesn't exist. I
think this is more of the "they are looking at me" crowd, feeling
persecuted. If you run for office, what you ate for breakfast is open to
public discussion. If you don't like it or have thin skin, get out of the
Since i dont watch Lawrence O'Donnell, i wasnt aware of his raising the
horse issue. So the real issue isnt about horses, its about the
small echelon the Romney's inhabit and the policies Romney supports, while
trying to appeal to an economically depressed American populace.As
many economists have pointed out, in the past decade, 93% of all income gain
went to the top 1%. Romney earns upwards of $52,000/DAY, paying a 13.9% tax
rate. The system is rigged in his favor, not only does he want to keep the
special loopholes that helped him amass a great fortune, he wants to double-down
on such policies.
Should super rich Ann Romney become first lady, perhaps she can promote the
therapeutic benefits of driving big expensive Cadilacs and encourage a culture
that funnels the countless unwanted cheap automobiles to the used car junk yards
where emotionally or physically distressed poor people can afford to enjoy the
not so special human need for cheap transportation.
An examination of the transcript reveals the ridicule was directed at the
$77,000 business deduction, not at Ms. Romney."...O’DONNELL: Now, this is not in any way to make light of Ann
Romney’s difficulty with MS, it's obviously a very difficult thing to
bear. And there are a lot of things you can do to try to deal with
MS...".However,"...why does the horse appear on
Mitt Romney’s tax return as a business expense, that in 2010 produced a
$77,000 business deduction? Not a healthcare deduction, a business deduction for
the Romney Limited Liability Corporation that owns the horse as a
The venal campaign tactics of Obama through his puppets, Hillary Rosen, Bill
Maher, Lawrence Odonnell, Jay Carney and others has no lower limits.
The war on success plays well with the not so intelligent. Others realize that
if their boss is not successful they will soon be unemployed.
So, a quick internet search for this "attack" shows this article by Ms.
Parker, a Seattle Times article highlighting the outrage expressed by Ms.
Parker, Ann Coulter and others from the right and then a series of articles
highlighting Ann Romney's success with her horse. Other than the typically
bigoted and uninformed comments of Lawrence O'Donnell I just can't
seem to find this large scale attack on Mrs. Romney.Kathleen
Parker's question "...why this war on success? People who are
struggling through rough economic times ....surely most see through
this...attack on the Romney's, whose only apparent sin is having been
successful" is just a red herring. There is no war on success, there is
concern that those who are at the top of the wealth ladder have been able to
keep more of their earnings than others in their same bracket or even those who
make less than them simply because of the way they made thier money. Mr. Romney
paid less than 15% tax on his $22M earnings. It seems that Ms. Parker might be
as uninformed as Mr. O'Donnell.
I respect Parker, but on this one, she lost me. Republicans need not be so
thin-skinned that they miss the points of various commentaries. Some are poking
fun, common for anyone in a high profile position as the Romney's. Some
comments are political in nature, rightly pointing out that the Romney's
inhabit a world that is quite unlike 99.9% of the rest of us. Do they really get
the struggles that most Americans have? It is a fair question for anyone who
aspires to be President. And how many people who could use therapeutic riding
will have access to it or be able to afford it? Few, which highlights the fact
that the Romney's, who I have no doubt are fundamentally decent people, are
not like the rest of us and don't get it.
There is nothing wrong with riding a horse, even an expensive horse.