Published: Sunday, June 24 2012 12:00 a.m. MDT
@Worf;Please, what "special rights and benefits" are we
asking for? We're asking for nothing more than what any heterosexual
couple is getting from the state. There is nothing "special" about
that. It's simply equal.
@procuradorfiscal;I do think its OKAY for you to disagree. It is
NOT okay to deny us the same privileges and benefits that you partake of from
our government through the legal contract of marriage.What
you're saying with your last paragraph, is that it is OKAY for you to deny
us OUR "freedom of conscience" but it is NOT OKAY for us to expect to be
treated equally in the secular arena.As long as an organization
(secular or religious) is taking public money then they can't discriminate
against Americans (some of whom) are providing that money. When you get a tax
break for a pavilion you rent out, you have to also rent to glbt Americans as
well. When you start a business you have to abide by non-discrimination laws.
There is nothing about "freedom of conscience" - you CHOOSE to do these
things, therefore you CHOOSE to accept the legal requirements - that is where
your conscience comes in. If you can't/won't accept those
requirements, you do not accept the tax breaks or go into business.
Re: ". . . you CHOOSE to do these things, therefore you CHOOSE to accept the
legal requirements . . . ."Hmmmmmm. Your choices determine legal
outcomes.Thanks for making my point.
RanchHand,Special rights and benefits? Who knows?The
ones you guys protest, march, and call people racist for. The ones from
legalizing marriage.People don't do these things without
wanting something. Special rights and benefits.
Where in the New Testament does Jesus condemn homosexuality?
Wasn't it Satan who hated the idea that people had the right to "choose
for thyself, for it is given unto thee"; and sought to destroy man's
agency by forcing us to act as we should rather than as we wanted to? What does
Mero believe?Brigham Young said that he would only infringe upon
someone's agency via a good word and a good example. What does Mero
believe?If people don't have the right to sin, then their
agency is infringed.Gays aren't looking for special rights
anymore than Christians are asking for special rights in Saudi Arabia for
wanting to build churches. They aren't asking to be free from consequences.
They WANT those consequences. They aren't forcing us to label them as moral
any more than LDS are trying to force Evangelicals to quit referring to us as a
cult.Supporting Prop. 8 violated 1 Cor 10:29. This can't be
explained away or ignored.Why do so many people wish to abandon what
the scriptures say and then embrace Satan by denying agency via imposed force?
Isn't it sad that GLBT activists can't be happy with society's
tolerance. When I was young, sodomy was a crime. Such private behavior is no
longer criminal. Couldn't you folks just take a generation or two enjoying
your new-found freedom? Why must you leap all the way to preferential treatment
and the hijacking of Society's most sacred institution? You have been
offered "civil unions" in many locations. Even a civil union puts you
ahead of a great many heterosexual couples. A large percentage of
"committed" heterosexual couples live together without marriage or any
other kind of formal, legal recognition. What make you better than they? Why
can't you see that society has offered the advantages of marriage to
encourage the creation of the best possible environment for the rearing of its
most vulnerable and impressionable citizens. This is not just what society
wants; it is what society needs.
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