swede1952 Congratulations, Now I see that your cut and paste propaganda was
not even your own. Great win for Hatch
Were I Hatch, I'd take the retirement he has earned, relax and enjoy life.
I hope he wins, I am actually grateful to him for being willing to
serve once again.
Furry1993 writes: "The "back of the bus" comment was made in October
2010, almost two years after President Obama took office."It has
always been President Obama's way or the highway. He does not tolerate
dissent and does not understand the concept of compromise. If you are not a
team player you can't expect support from the loyal opposition. That is why
he is in trouble now.
Re: Furry1993 Clearfield, UT"The "back of the bus" comment was
made in October 2010, almost two years after President Obama took
office."In case you've forgotten that ill advised comment
was made when the Democrats had control of the US House and had a veto proof
Senate. The timeline was when Obama didn't need the Republican's
help. A wise US President would have understood that the day would come when he
would need their help.I understand the timeline perfectly, and
associate the comment as coming from someone who thought the "Chicago
Democratic machine" method of doing business would work in Washington.
To Rifleman 5:53 a.m. 6/26/2012The "back of the bus" comment
was made in October 2010, almost two years after President Obama took office.
In case you forget, he had been trying to work with the Republicans and the far
right for all that time, and they had refused him and tried to block him at
every turn. He was frustrated and made an unwise comment (understandable but
not a good way to act). If the Republicans and, especially, the far right had
been agreeable to working with him and had not, out of spite or malice, tried to
block everything he tried to do for the benefit of the United States, we would
all be better off now.If you want to make a comment like the
"back of the bus" comment, at least get the timeline right and put the
comment in context.
Re: Esquire Springville, UT"actually, with the mess he was handed and
with the GOP doing all they can to stop him, I think Obama has done pretty
good"Leaders don't make excuses, they give results. If
Obama wanted the GOP's help he should have asked for it instead of telling
them they could come for the ride but had to sit in back.What kind
of leader is that?
@ Ballplayer, actually, with the mess he was handed and with the GOP doing all
they can to stop him, I think Obama has done pretty good. And just because you
don't like one guy doesn't mean all change should be avoided. Again,
if you like the way things are gong, and have gone over the past 36 years, vote
for Orrin. Whatever.
Re: swede1952 Smithfield, UT"As one elderly woman stated at the caucus
I attended in March, "Oh, we can't lose our senior Senator!" I am
NO longer her friend because of her mule-like attitude!"You gave
up a friendship because someone voted her conscience? Shallow friendships really
aren't worth cultivating. Sen. Hatch represents voters with mental
maturity, and that is the reason why he'll be re-elected in November.
Swede 1952:1. There are only about 10-15 people who check this
thread.2. I am an Orrin Hatch supporter, and I am 30 years old. I know
several others who are much younger than I am who will be voting for Orrin Hatch
because they value and respect seniority and experience, and look at the big
picture of how change happens. They don't vote based off of emotions, but
rather political platform, record, and projection into the future. You can hold
me responsible and many other young voters as well - I am fine with that. 3. "Senior manipulation?" "NO longer her friend?" 4.
Behaving like sheep is good, as long as you are following the right shepherd.
This isn't about who is brainwashed and who is not, Swede. Don't make
this so personal. Politics is tough. There are winners and losers. If Dan
Liljenquist wins, then I will not behave childish, I will support him and
encourage him to get things done. But this is politics, and I believe Orrin
Hatch will be able to do a much better job representing Utah and national jobs,
debt management, and conservative values.
"Vote for Hatch if you want to continue business as usual or vote for a
fresh person that wants to see things change."Change--isn't
that what Obama used as a campaign theme? How's that working out? Change
for the sake of change isn't the answer. Liljenquist doesn't have what
it takes to get the job done.
From the article in yesterday's Deseret News, Dan Jones polling predicts a
victory in Tuesday's primary for Orrin Hatch. As I read this prediction,
my heart sank. It would appear the "tough old bird" has once again
conned enough older Utahns into behaving like sheep. To me, the lesson
Massachusetts learned in 2009 when Ted Kennedy died at 77 1/2 years of age or
West Virginia's Robert Byrd at age 92 went unlearned! When you elect older
candidates to public office, you also vote for a possible interruption in their
term because of death. Geez, is that so hard to understand?I hold
seniors responsible if Hatch is re-elected. United, they form a huge block of
voters. They only entertain thoughts of allowing Hatch an unprecedented 7th
term because of their greed concerning Social Security and Medicare. As one
elderly woman stated at the caucus I attended in March, "Oh, we can't
lose our senior Senator!" I am NO longer her friend because of her
mule-like attitude!I appeal to Utah voter 45 and younger. Turn out
in record numbers at tomorrow's primary! Vote for DAN for change! Stop
this senior manipulation!
For Sen. Hatch, "business as usual" is hypocritically promoting a
balanced budget amendment as political cover for himself while he continues to
vote for bills that put us deeper and deeper in debt.
Re: one old man Ogden, UT"The answer is named Scott Howell."The liberals just don't get it. Howell may be a decent man but
until the Democrats start placing value on the lives of innocent unborn children
they just aren't going to gain any traction in a state that opposes
abortion on demand.Now if the life of the mother is in danger, the
woman was raped, or the pregnancy involved incest the conservatives are at the
head of the line in approving an abortion. If it is because the woman has been
playing around that is a different matter.
I look forward to voting for o hatch in 2012, 2018, 2024, 2030, 2036...basically
forever, if possible, you never know...Just think how much better he
will get every 6 years...At least, the year leading up to the next
election...Just think how much senority he will have.There are 3 senators who have served into their 100's, the oldest being
Cornelius Cole (102).o hatch is now 78.If we can keep
him alive, in office, until 3/22/2037, using his government health insurance,
supplemented by the millions he has made/will make as a US Senator, he could
make it to 103.Just think, Utah can truly be #1...Finally.
I am not here to make excuses for the shortcomings of George Bush or for Ronald
Reagan nor am I a shill for Mitt Romney and claim allegiance to no political
party. No organization owns my vote, I will give it to whoever I feel will serve
the nation best regardless of the letter next to their name.
Hatch is a RINO dinosaur and a prehistoric beast, relating to the period before
history was first recorded in writing. Utah's Channel of Prehistoric
travels back in time, reveal the amazing extinct creatures that caused the
crash of 2008. Hatch needs to go. Because again, evidence points toward an
imminent financial collapse and the destruction of American wealth income,
investments, retirement, and even personal safety are now at severe risk.
Washington and Wall Street have recklessly pushed the United States into the
greatest financial bubble in American history. And unfortunately we are far
beyond the point of no return. This bubble WILL burst just like every other one
before it. It will drive millions of American families into the nightmare of
poverty, homelessness, and a grim dependence on government bureaucrats the same
leaders that got us into this. In the worst-case scenario, you could see
soaring crime, the confiscation of your private property, and even the
suspension of your civil rights.
I'm not going to vote FOR Hatch -- I don't want him and don't
support him. My vote is goig to be AGAINST Liljenquist. why? Because despite
how bad Hatch is, Liljenuist is ifiitely worse. I don't want to inflict
Liljenquist on the Senate and on the United States, thereby again making the
mistake Utah made in 2010.
Neither Hatch nor Liljenquist are the answer.The answer is named
I'm no fan of either candidate in the primary, and but the writer's
conclusion is correct. Hatch is the status quo. So decide if you like the way
things are. But the writer does not understand the legislative process. A
Senator is one of 100, a concept that Mike Lee has not yet figured out.
Business as usual for Orrin Hatch is working harder than ever to preserve Utah
jobs, balance budget, unite a bipartisan Senate, and represent Utah and the
Nation with strength, conservative values, morals, and sway.
I've noticed the negative ads against Hatch have ceased for the most part.
I smell a deal between Hatch and Liljenquist. Hatch gets another term and
Liljenquist is is anointed heir. Republicans do things this way.