Published: Friday, June 22 2012 9:36 a.m. MDT
It is very refreshing to see someone stand up for religious liberties! Otherwise
we will all lose our freedom!
I think on some level their complaints about insurance coverage may have some
validity but the freedom of two gay people to get married and the freedom of
those that see the benefits of stem cell research to engage in such research n
no way violates the catholic churches freedom of religion. what they seem to
want is the ability to force others to follow their dictates.
Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and
State, said,"They are asking for preferential treatment from the
government,"No, Barry, they are asking to be treated the way
they were treated BEFORE BO changed the laws so that the laws then would cause
them to VIOLATE their conscience, contrary to the first amendment.Tolstoy,I think you missed the point of the religious exemption on the
gay marriage issue – no church should be forced to officiate over a gay
People are free to associate with any church that does not break laws. But when
those churches then hire non church memebers for non-religious duties (such as
running a hospital) they can hardly base employment benefits on church beliefs.
And in the case of Catholic schools and hospitals, lawyers have seen to it that
actual ownership is NOT based in Rome but in some local corporate entity. You
can't have it both ways.
@lostand no church has been forced to in any of the states that have gay
marriage so what's your point.
Yes stem cell does violate our faith. They are employers of teachers catholic
and non in their school systems and provide health care. Heath care can't
not involve embryonic stem cells because it destroys a human being with a soul.
Belief that the soul is present at conception means its human. Adult stems are
fine. No human life is destroyed in the process of collecting blood products.
Catholic schools and hospitals do not restrict employment or receiving education
and health care services because we don't want to discriminate. We want to
serve anyone. We don't want to not employ a person who makes different
decisions. People are free to accept or reject. But we don't want a hand in
paying for those things contrary to basic theology. And people applying for
positions or seeking health care from us should make that decision before they
walk in the door. I saw we close all the hospitals and schools.
Let's see what the country says when tens of thousands show up at public
school registration come fall.
The Catholic church made a mistake by taking in federal funds. Federal funds
frequently come with regulations, and mandates.
@lost in DCIf the law you're referring to that Obama changed is the
birth control requirement that everyone got so worked up over, that law has
actually been in place for over a decade. In December 2000, the
Equal Employment Opportunity Commission ruled that companies that provided
prescription drugs to their employees but didn't provide birth control were
in violation of Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, which prevents
discrimination on the basis of sex. That opinion, which the George W. Bush
administration did nothing to alter or withdraw when it took office the next
month, is still in effect today—and because it relies on Title VII of the
Civil Rights Act, it applies to all employers with 15 or more employees
@KActually, embryonic stem cells aren't a destruction of life as we
know it. The brethren have said that we don't know when the spirit enters
the body, and that it may be different for each person. I would offer
conjecture that it is past the stage when embryonic stem cells are created. In
any case, while the church has stated prohibitions against abortion (except in
certain cases), the church has also stated that there is no prohibition against
the use of stem cells.
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