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Published: Thursday, June 21 2012 3:04 p.m. MDT

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mamiejane
Salt Lake City, UT

Why doesn't this story accurately depict the fact that Romney said he would grant amnesty to people who enter the country illegally if they obtain advanced degrees or serve in the military? It's not fair to the voters and readers to inaccurately report what a Presidential candidate says he will do.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

I would really love to hear a canidate say that they will uphold the law. The immigation system is not broken, it just is not being enforced.

Furry1993
Clearfield, UT

I want to hear the specifics of Romney's proposal. As usual, he just mouths platitudes without any substance. He's just sound and fury, and we all know what that signifies.

LDS
Cedar City, UT

It is unfortunate that Mitt Romney will continue the push to uproot millions of good-citizen American-Mexicans. These fine people have contributed a great deal to our country and have raised up children who have also been fine citizens. Mr Romney should consult with LDS Church authorities and other churches regarding the compassionate comprehensive immigration policy that must be implemented.

The "uproot and discard" attitude regarding undocumented immigrants ignores basic moral justice and fairness. Certainly 19th Century LDS history should be a reminder of the horrors imposed on those that are chased away.

Ecclesiastes 10:2
PROVO, UT

Sorry, but if you're against allowing some kind of accommodation being made in the immigration issue, there's no way your heart's desire will ever happen. We will not be deporting 12 - 20 million illegal aliens. Ever. It just isn't going to happen. So what do you suggest? Throw them in prison? Have them put to sleep?

Most Conservatives, which I consider myself, agree that some sort of compromise has to take place. I happen to think that a very good place to start is with those who were brought here as babies/children and grew up here. They had no choice in the matter. Their parents brought them here. If they've graduated from college or served in the U.S. Military, they should receive SOME KIND of consideration. I don't have all the answers. You certainly don't.

I don't agree with compromising on everything. I think we, as conservatives, need to stand our ground on most issues. But SOME things require compromise. This is one of them. I would rather have a President Romney compromise on this than to have President Obama continue to give away the farm.

rvalens2
Burley, ID

"I will prioritize measures that strengthen legal immigration and make it easier." - Mitt Romney

Easier? Unless you have some special talent or skill the U.S. needs or are the spouse or child of a U.S. citizen, we don't need to make it easier. We already have plenty of people residing in the U.S. This isn't the America of 200 years ago.

Does that mean we should stop all immigration? No, but in my opinion we need to slow it down to a trickle and carefully evaluate every person we allow to move here and reside in this country.

Those who do move here need to learn English, abide by our laws, and whenever possible adopt and acknowledge the unique customs and traditions we have in the U.S. We don't need immigrants to come here and setup enclaves where they then try and run things as they did in the "Old Country."

The Deuce
Livermore, CA

To: LDS Cedar City, UT - your comment, "The "uproot and discard" attitude regarding undocumented immigrants ignores basic moral justice and fairness" fails to take into account the fact that laws were broken in the first place. This puts the illegal alien in the wrong position to start with. While we all empathize with the individual situation, this would never be an issue if laws were enforced and followed to start with. I have much more compassion for individuals who follow the law than ones that first break the law and then expect to have all foregiven. Let's first get this situtation under control and stop illegal immigration before we do anything else.

SoCalChris
Riverside, CA

I hope Romney can do what Meg Whitman was unable to pull off in California -- pander to the hard right in the primary and then soften the rhetoric.

Although I disagree with Romney on immigration, I believe he's by far the best candidate to deal with the economy and most other issues. I'm afraid if Obama has another 4 years this country will be on track to be no better a place for opportunity than the countries illegals left.

Ecclesiastes 10:2 and LDS -- well said.

LDS
Cedar City, UT

@the Deuce, 1:03.
Sir, your point is well taken. Indeed, it is a fact that laws were broken in the first place.

My point is that if the immigrants established themselves as upright citizens, they are like us. To extend basic moral justice and fairness, we must yield to forgiveness of that initial transgression of the law and acknowledge these families deserve the same mercy we take for granted.

cjb
Bountiful, UT

Before we kick kids out of the only country they ever knew, and back to a country where quite likely they don't even know the language, all in the name of upholding the law ...

Let us first resolve to keep and enforce laws that Americans break all the time, i.e. speeding laws.

If we are really in favor of upholding the law at all costs, let us begin with ourselves before we point a finger at others.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@mamiejane
Except Romney explicitly said in a debate that he favored a policy making it difficult enough for illegal immigrants that they would engage in self-deportation. That also wasn't in this article. Though in defense of the article writer, it's sorta hard to write down Romney's position on the issue when he changes it based on what audience he needs to pander to.

prelax
Murray, UT

Has anyone ever answered the question of how many of the 1 out of six are here illegally and can't vote?

Why has enforcing the laws become draconian, and right wing, yet allowing theft of a Nation moderate?

One of the problems with immigration is the attempt to reunite families. Three out of four green cards last year went to families, it made it impossible for people without relatives here to apply. Our resources are limited, we can't please everyone, and those that try to come through the back door, should be our last priority. Not our first. Enforce the laws, remove the 3 and 10 year block for those that go home and come back legally. I think we would be surprised how many follow our laws, if amnesty is made illegal, the back door closed, and their only entrance is through the front door.

America's taxpayers should not be paying for cheap labor for business. Nor should second class residents be an option even discussed.

SLars
Provo, UT

75-80% of those here illegally are Latino, and they brought their culture and language with them. Returning should not be difficult for the adults brought here as children.

Illegal immigrants came here not knowing the language or culture.
Legal immigrants come here not knowing the language or culture

It's not a valid reason to stop deportation of adults broght here as children that also broke our immigration laws.

Rasmussen polls shows Romney ahead of Obama by three points after Obama's speech. It lost Obama votes. Pandering to Latino base cost him votes in the general population.

ouisc
Farmington, UT

Civil--of or pertaining to citizens; of or pertaining to civil law.

Interestingly, the term "civil" does not apply to our illegal immigrants, who are neither citizens or law-abiding.

We shall see if we have a presidential candidate who will be "civil" when dealing with those who lie, cheat, and steal their way into our country.

RRB
SLC, UT

@LDS
"compassionate" is not a word used fairly when dealing with illegal immigration. Millions of people are out of work, some have lost jobs to those who came here illegally and undercut their wages. America's middle class and poor have seen wages drop over the surplus of labor. Our poor have been hurt the most. Where is there compassion for America's poor? How about those who have spent thousands of dollars getting their identity back? Where is there compassion? America's taxpayers, who have supported them and the business that hires them? Justice for all?

Is the parent that refuses to punish their children compassionate, or do they set them up for failure in the future by teaching them that there is a punishment for doing wrong, a price to pay? We don't enforce our laws now, we set ourselves up for failure.

Leviticus 25:18
Romans 13:1-7l

RichardB
Murray, UT

@Ecclesiastes 10:2
You want the young to stay, but we know that once the children are given residency, the cries will be for their parents, and the demand to keep the family together will ring in the media and pro-illegal organizations. But what about those that have been here for 20 years? "Equal Justice Under Law"?

See, it's all or nothing, or we stay like we are now, not sending them back, but never giving citizenship.

Government studies put deportation at 94 billion, amnesty would be 1.5-2 trillion once they enter our full social services, and close to half will lose their jobs to the new wave of people coming here illegally. They are working because they will accept less than market value wages. Once they have to be paid honest wages, they are expendable and out of work. Amnesty will be the last nail in the coffin for our economy.

Enforcement is the only real answer. Amnesty, guest workers, etc just put off the problem.

This generation will be known as the one that lost America if we don't act now. Our jobs and families are at risk.

UTAH Bill
Salt Lake City, UT

Once again Romney takes a stance - without actually taking a stance. He always gives us these great sounding global descriptors but no specifics on which we can make an informed decision. For claiming not to be a career politician, he sure talks like one.

williary
Kearns, UT

Another day, another Mitt flip. Where is the Mitt from the primary season? The guy who was against the Dream Act in Iowa, then for it in Florida, then against it as soon as Floridians had cast their votes! The guy who actually coined the phrase "Self Deportation" in a debate. The guy who killed Perry for being too lenient on illegals.

I have to believe one of these days, preferably before he becomes President, we might get to meet the real Mitt Romney and hear what he really stands for, if anything.

SLars
Provo, UT

mamiejane

Both candidates have promised illegal aliens citizenship to veterans. Both are not aware of the fact that illegal aliens can't serve in the military. It's a promise that goes no where.

Green card holders can serve, and I am for giving them citizenship after a honorable discharge.

I think they both have their green card/illegal aliens mixed up. Not hard to do with the pr we get everyday. Presidential candidates should know better. Especially the one who has served for 4 years.

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