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Published: Tuesday, June 19 2012 10:43 a.m. MDT

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ute alumni
Tengoku, UT

glad to see the catholic drop their support . i can't understand how anybody can trust or support anything that the community organizer is behind. out in 6 plus months. o to go, can't wait.

John20000
Cedar Hills, UT

Many leading democrats over the years have attacked their biggest competition of funds: charities. The heath care law is just one more veiled attempt at putting charities out of business.

non believer
PARK CITY, UT

Truly hope Obama calls their bluff! This is one of the dumbest fights I have ever seen. If the employee is a true Catholic, then they will NOT CHOOSE to partake of any contraception! But for those employee's who are not religious, it is a great option to have! Not sure how having a choice violates their religious freedom in any way? Churches and Charities are exempt.... So how does this step on their beliefs? This is a dumb dumb argument!

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: non believer PARK CITY, UT
"Truly hope Obama calls their bluff!"

Why is it a bluff for a religious organization to have moral convictions and then honor them?

By-the-way, Obama told the GOP not to call his bluff during a budget battle. They did .... he folded.

ute alumni
Tengoku, UT

non believer,
by virtue of your screen name, your bluff has already been called. maybe your boy will start taking away non believer rights like has has tried with believers......

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@ute alumni
Being a believer does not give you the right to violate business law.

Furry1993
Clearfield, UT

Counter Intelligence 1:56 p.m. June 19, 2012

I am not aware that ahyone is trying to get organizations owned by the Catholic Church to finance "abortion pills." The issue here is contraception (preventing pregnancy) not terminating pregnancy. Contraception is one of several basic preventative health care needs of women, and is not abortion.

I agree that nobody should be forced to terminate a pregnancy UNLESS the life/health of the pregnant woman was seriously at risk and there was nobody else around who could perform the operation. In that case, the needs of the patient outweigh any concernns of the doctor or nurse. I agree that a pharmacist should not have to provide medications PROVIDED there is another pharmacy close-by which will provide them. As to the marriage question -- nobody should have to perform a marriage with which s/he does not agree (that does not extend to the clerk at the county who merely registers an act done somewhere else).

But, the Catholic Church wasn't "questioning politically correct passive/agression and sticking up for freedom", It was trying to impose its theology on those who do not agree with its tenets. THAT is not right.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

but wait... Barack says he is being fair here and we all need to be fair in return. Don't you just hate that word - "fair" - when Barack uses it. Normally fair is a good word but when Obama uses it - watch out!! Catholics need to understand that Obama is a Marxist first and a so-called Christian second (if at all). One of the pillars of Marxism is atheism - zero respect for religious liberty when it pertains to a belief in God. What we have seen from Obama is all about Marxist ideology since he took his unfortunate oath of office. This man has zero respect for anything religious and is constantly dancing to the strings of his atheist puppet master George Soros. Wake up Catholics and join with all people of faith and vote Barack back to community organizing.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@patriot
The majority of Catholics agree with Obama on his decision and over 95% of them use birth control at some point as it is. They don't care, or at least the only ones that care are the ones that already were voting against him for his abortion stance.

@Counter Intelligence
Except this isn't unconstitutional. If he imposed it on churches then yeah it would be but imposing it on the business entities that happen to be run by the church is okay.

rawlshea
Salt Lake City, UT

In a time when children around the world, including America, are hungry, illiterate and without hope, the Republican, high paid operatives are making a non-issue, an issue. What would someone say 2000 years ago seeking a newer realm (i.e. turning the other cheek) or what would the founding fathers say in creating our great country? They would say, "make sure the least advantaged our cared for and not exploited". How universal health care would violate what was said 2000 or 220 (1792 after the constitution was ratified) is simply beyond me, except for Citizens United and the flood of secret money poisoning our political process.

ChemicAl
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

This is ridiculous. Our freedom of religion is for the individual citizen, not the organization. When did it become okay for a church to mandate your healthcare? That is freedom, that is state allowed control.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@Counter Intelligence
"BYU gets to not allow alcohol on campus."

Does BYU take public funding?

Catholics... more than half of Catholics SUPPORT the Obama decision.

Furry1993
Clearfield, UT

@Counter Intelligence

One correction to what you said. The morning after pill does not abort pregnancies. If a pregnancy is esetablished, it doesn't affect it in any way. It does the same thing as "classic" contraception and sterilization -- it keeps pregnancies from starting. And yes, I think male contraception should also be covered as preventative health care.

This isn't about choice. There is nothing in the contraception issue that forces churches (establishments of religion, to quote the constitution) to provide contraception. They are exempt. What isn't exempt is the corporations or businesses they own. They are separate entities that don't preach the religion, and are not establishments of religion. Those corporations or businesses have to abide by the law, just like any other corporation or business must do. There is nothing unconstitutional about requiring corporations or businesses (regardless the identity of their owners), or the insurance companies with which they contract, to abide by the law.

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