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Published: Saturday, June 16 2012 10:07 p.m. MDT

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bballjunkie
Pleasant Grove, UT

People back up and wait a minute in less than 72 hours Utah will be offering this kid...Right Kyle! or Coach Whitty!

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

Utah-Hawaii Alum

I know I'm breaking one of my cardinal rules by even responding to you, but I bet I see more BYU games in November, live, from my great room in Richland, WA than you see Utah games, live, in November from your easy chair in Texas.

plyxply
SLC, UT

True Blue you're exactly right, offering first does make an impression that lasts with the kid. Good for Austin, he proved a lot of people wrong, me included, and has shown he's a serious talent.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@williary

No I never said that, you are lying albeit in a weak attempt top mock me.

The reason BYU didn't want Chase Hansen as a qb is because he can't throw and doesn't have a D1 quality arm which most utah "fans" found out from utah's spring practices. BYU obviously does want dual threat qb's, look at Taysom Hill who will no doubt be running over, and around, teams in a year or two while also actually being able to throw the ball down field unlike Hansen who will be playing defense for utah.

Like navl vet you fail at your attempts ad let me tell you why so you can work on it. There has to actually be an element of truth to the things you post about other people. Since yours had no basis in truth it failed.

I did enjoy how you made an entire post about me though, thank you. I love being in utah "fans" heads.

LOL!

emotionalfriend
sandy, UT

@Uncle Sam

I've seen two of those new Jordan kids (both of them from California) and they are pretty athletic.

kokua
KAYSVILLE, UT

There is a long road of prep-football to play. There are three long football season's for Kafentzis anything can happen.

If he stays healthy and true to his early promise the kid has awesome potetial.

Who knows what the future holds.

bradleyc
Layton, UT

Utah-Hawaii Alum

"Regardless, BYU is in beyond serious trouble. Honestly, they need to go Big Sky at this point. Their November schedule will not be televised."

You seem to be jealous of BYU? Why else would you say such ridiculous things? BYU will only get better over the next few years. If I were Utah I would never play BYU in November because BYU will beat you at least 50% of the time. If I were BYu I would not play Utah early in the season because there are too many great programs who want to play BYU early in the season. There goes the rivalry... which is a mess anyway... reminds me of a civil war where people don't speak to each other for months afterwards no matter the outcome.. .Stupid game that should be done away with.. BTW.. Go Aggies.

As far as BYU's November TV Schedule goes... If ESPN doesn't want them then BYU TV will pick them up. BYU TV is available in over 60 million homes nation wide. It's Kind of a Big Deal! Maybe a comparison of other cable channels you should do. eh?

fender
Washington, UT

Duck

So now you speak for the BYU coaching staff? Obviously you have something against Hansen, since you go out of your way to badmouth the kid every chance you get. While you're busy spreading sunshine about Taysom Hill and ripping on Hansen, it might be good to point out that Hansen, as a QB, is rated higher than Hill by both by Rivals and ESPN. I know, I know, you're gonna tell us now you know hill personally or you coached him and he has a 40" vertical and has 10 D1 scholarship offers in basketball.

WON84
PLANO, TX

Utah-Hawaii Alum, if BYU is in such trouble why not just let the ship sink? There really shouldn't be anything to discuss if they're in such trouble so I'd suggest that you and your buddies quit losing sleep over it.

WON84
PLANO, TX

fender, there is no question that Hansen is a fine athlete though simply through reading on these message boards I've come across discussion about the position Hansen will play in college whereas I haven't seen such discussion about Hill.

This doesn't invalidate your statement about Hansen's superior ranking on Rivals and ESPN but, it does lead you to wonder if there are some questions about Hansen as a QB.

CougarBlue
Heber City, UT

Rafinsure you will need to eat your words when Utah's offensive coordinator makes those same offers. You seem to be blind to the similar problems at your beloved Utah.

fender
Washington, UT

WON84

May well be so, but if someone is going to come on these boards and dissect one of these kids, my view is they had better be able to back it up with something. If Duck wanted to come on here and say "I've watched this kid throw and in my humble opinion I don't believe he has a D1 quality arm", I have no beef with that, but to act as though you speak the gospel truth (not to mention you imply you're speaking for the BYU coaching staff), when 2 reputable recruiting sites both say differently. No, sorry, that dog won't hunt.

truecoug1
Provo, UT

@fender "While you're busy spreading sunshine about Taysom Hill and ripping on Hansen, it might be good to point out that Hansen, as a QB, is rated higher than Hill by both by Rivals and ESPN."

Lol, just to set the facts straight, Rivals has Hansen listed higher as an ATHLETE (#20, Hill is listed at #30 as a QB) and Scout has him listed as an OLB (#44, Hill comes in again at #30 QB). ESPN does indeed have him as a QB ranked higher than Hill.

Two out of the three main recruiting sites don't even see him as being a QB and apparently Utah doesn't either, since I haven't seen anything indicating he'll crack the 3-deep in the QB rotation.

No question Hansen's a good athlete and a great get for Utah, but watch your facts before you post.

Go Cougars!

fender
Washington, UT

Truecoug1

Understand you're just tryin to bail out a brother, but it doesn’t fly. The issue isn’t whether or not one scouting site or three rate Hansen higher than Hill. One reputable site is more than enough to make my point and Hill isn’t rated higher than Hansen by any site on any basis. BTW, dual threat QBs are often listed as athletes or defensive backs. Doesn't mean they can't or won't be playing QB at the D1 level or that their rating doesn’t include QB skills. Rivals listed Riley Nelson, BYU’s current starter, as a safety, even though he was being recruited as a QB by several D1 schools.

I have no idea if Hansen is a D1 level QB or not, and I’m not making the argument one way or the other. The point is if you're gonna rip one these athletes with comments like Duck’s, back it up with a legitimate source and don’t pretend you know what’s in the mind of a school’s coaching staff, when in fact you don't.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@fender

You're floundering, badly.

Chase was not rated as qb despite your tortured attempts to claim otherwise. His ratings were as an athlete and he is a great athlete, I've aknowledged it many times. It has been reported in this paper, and the Tribune, multiple times that BYU told Chase they were not recruiting him as a qb. I don't need to "read the coaches minds" because it has been widely reported.

I've never "ripped" the kid, not once. I am just telling you his arm is not D1 quality and no one but utah even gave him the option to try and play qb. If you can't handle that then that is your problem but let me tell you what this is really about.

I am right. I know the kids here in this area, like Chase and Talon. I know what they have done and what they can do. You don't know anything at all about either of them other than what you have read. Talon does have a 40" vertical but you don't know it so you mock it.

You've become a joke with your fixation on me.

LOL!

fender
Washington, UT

Duckhunter,

You give yourself way too much credit. Assuming that this edited comment will pass muster, I can assure you nobody is fixated on you, but your comments about Utah football do invite a response. Most of the time it's all in fun, so you can relax and enjoy the back and forth with the rest of us.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@fender

Most of the time it is fun but that is not what you were attempting to do here. And no I do not "give myself way to much credit" since you are the one that brought me into it. Go look at the article about the orange county kid utah got a committment from, in that case another utah "fan" brought me into it. I am in your heads or else you wouldn't bring me up. It is fun for me however, all I ask is that there be some semblence of truth in the comments utah "fans" make. It is when there is a componenet of truth that the back and forth is more effective for each side.

MLH
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

This kid will never play for BYU.

truecoug1
Provo, UT

@fender " BTW, dual threat QBs are often listed as athletes or defensive backs. Doesn't mean they can't or won't be playing QB at the D1 level or that their rating doesn’t include QB skills."

Lol, really? Tell that to Tyrone Swoopes, Taysom Hill, Jihad Vercher, Jake Lloyd, etc. All dual-threat QB's being recruited as (gasp) dual-threat QB's.

I agree with you that nobody knows if Hansen, or Hill, are going to be good D1 QB's. However, I DO know, and tried to point out to U, that Chase Hansen is currently the 4th-string QB behind Wynn (senior), Hayes (DII QB), and Wilson (freshman), that he's planning on red-shirting this year, and will leave on a mission after this year.

Hill, meanwhile, is looked at as the 3rd string QB behind Nelson (senior) and Lark (senior). He is expected to be the starting QB for BYU next season.

Guess we'll have to wait 3 years to see if Hansen starts at QB for Utah.

Go Cougars!

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