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Published: Monday, June 4 2012 3:00 p.m. MDT

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Highland, UT

Harbaugh is about as believable as obama. Look harbaugh, smith knows what he is at this point and it isn't the equivalent of Peyton Manning. He's just happy to have a job, you don't need to try and make him feel like he was your guy all along since we all know that isn't true. He's what you've got so get out of him what you can and next offseason go for the next best guy available.

South Jordan, Utah

Whittingham would be wise to heed the old adage "be careful what you wish for because you might get it." I know that he and most Utah fans think they are the second coming of USC, but I wouldn't hold my breath. It will be interesting to see what the state of Utah athletics is in 5 years.

CO Ute

Wow - first 2 posts and both can't wait to dump on the U. Typical from Ducky but if this was a BYU grad he would be a great QB just looking for the right situation. Since it is a former U player, he is clearly lucky to have a job. Alex Smith isn't a pro bowl QB right now but he is a legitimate NFL starter.

Balan - neither Utah or BYU needs the head to head match up right now as they both have bigger fish to fry. If Utah does or doesn't play the Y, it won't have any impact on the state of athletics in 5 years. Frankly the U may be better served by scheduling a team they can beat every year instead of worrying about losing 3 out of every 10 times.

Salt Lake City, UT

I think Whittingham is no different than many BYU alumni nowadays, wondering in particular what the future holds for his alma-matter's program. I think the choice to go football independent was and still remains an effort by the BYU administration to remain relevant in the now fast changing pace of college football. But with what BYU can schedule in such a position, and the difficulties both external (no Sunday play policy) and internal (LDS Church leadership politics...wanting BYU to stay in WCC) in joining a league like the Big 12 presents clearly shows a program strained, particularly as it has now continued to struggle more for the caliber of LDS student athletes to recruit who now wish to go to other power league schools as well as Utah. A BYU program that can find its way into the Big 12 can certainly revive and be the exposure tool desired and convince Utah it's relevant enough to renew the rivalry after a short 3-4 year hiatus perhaps. But not joining if a sincere offer comes could eventually "Rexburgize" the BYU program by late in the decade.

Provo, UT

The arrogance of Utah is astounding...Our program is in the PAC12 now and we can't schedule BYU. Interesting that Florida/Florida State play each other every year...ditto USC/Notre Dame plus many other schools who are not in the same conference. Utah's head has grown bigger than their program...especially considering they didn't even play Stanford or Oregon last season with losses to USC, Washington, California, Colorado etc. etc.

Iowa City, IA

re:slc byu fan. You recited bullet points like a well oiled ute fan...that you are.

The BYU program is far from strained, in fact it's incredibly vibrant. More and more interest is being given to BYU and more potential recruits are taking a look.

The real story is that U fans are miserable of the success the BYU is having, while they are buried in a top heavy league with no ESPN in sight. In addition Utah if finding out that being in the PAC only means you get the left overs from AZ, ASU, USC, UW, Stanford and Oregon.


Byu has a big problem. They never win big games. Look at their bowl record. It Couldn't be much worse.


Just my thoughts .........I'm thinking Utah did pretty darn good last year considering they had a d-2 quarterback and was their 1st year in the PAC 12. How did your team do against the Utes last year?

Who am I sir?
Cottonwood Heights, UT

The picture says so much! First half of the November game 2010. 2010! How hard was it to search the archives to find the last moment a Y fan cheered at a Utah game?

Springville, UT

Whom am I sir...

When that Coach's Poll said BYU #25 and Utah... zip, nada, zilch, etc. there's a big cheer. The local yokal bragging rights don't seem to mean squat on the national stage. Nationally that 54-10 game didn't matter except it probably bumped the Cougars a few notches down!

That NC, lots of 10+ win seasons, multiple conference championships, multiple top 25 appearances and a history of great QBs make BYU the media darling it is.

The Utes are like the old Avis car rental ads... we try harder.
Or Burger King, Wendys to McDonalds comparison.

Burger King or Wendy's might have a better burger but they will always be behind McDonalds.

Just got in the 'business' a little too late.

Springville, UT


"...I'm thinking Utah did pretty darn good last year considering they had a d-2 quarterback and was their 1st year in the PAC 12."

... until the thought process comes full circle to that Colorado game and then the harsh reality of how miserable 4-5 really is in the conference... sixth or eight place out of 12 teams, and then again...Jenny, you had a PAC cupcake schedule.

You have one more season until the 'Goliaths' come to annihilate the Utes.

I'm a big fan. I can't wait.


Samantha - Alright - So Byu is better than Utah ..... With that thought how come Utah has won 7 out of the last 10 meetings with byu....... Seriously, if byu is better, why do they rarely beat the Utes.... And what does it say that Utah couldn't be lowly Colorado but they humiliated byu on their own turf....

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA


"The arrogance of Utah is astounding...Our program is in the PAC12 now and we can't schedule BYU. Interesting that Florida/Florida State play each other every year...ditto USC/Notre Dame..."

There's a big difference between UF-FSU and USC-ND games, from the Ute-cougars matchup. The former 2 don't matchup a relevant school with some WAC-ish and mid-majorey opponent, and their desire to play each other are mutual. However, while Utah has between 9-10 relevant games each season -- thereby manufacturing no additional need to schedule the Indy-WACers -- the Utes' little brothers desperately need us. Thus, we have the creation of a desire to play each other that is NOT mutual.

However, it COULD be mutual if Holmoe would just do the right thing and agree to an arrangement with 2 games at RES to every game at LES. The cougars seem to feel justified in doing it to the Aggies, so similarly, the Utes should feel justified in demanding likewise from the cougs.

If Holmoe won't, then let it die. This game just isn't that important to us anymore.

David King
Layton, UT

Brad, my bet is if you really tried to take the time to understand what Ron Paul was saying, you'd be fine for him running for office any time he wants. Feel free to make fun, but don't complain if ten years from the now, the US is still involved in wars all over the place, buried in debt, and government power is constantly increasing.

South Jordan, UT

It says according to Ute fans that on the day of the Colorado game the better team won but we had a d-2 quarterback so we can accept that. But when the Utes beat BYU you know the mighty Utes it had everything to do with how great they are and nothing to do with the steam roll effect. Yes the Utes beat BYU they were the better team that day. But that has not always been the case.
@CO Ute
No I do not think that Alex Smith is a bad QB he has been in very bad situations new coaches every year let him have a couple of years and then we will see where he is at good or bad. But the same can be said for Beck. Now Hall is a different case he never had the ability to play at the next level maybe the arena league but that is about it.

Tomahawk Red
North Salt Lake, UT

"It will be interesting to see what the state of Utah athletics is in 5 years."

How right you are!

In five years, Utah will be leaps and bounds further than where they are now.

BYU, not so much.

Magna Ute Fan
Magna, UT

In one breath, "Hey Utes! YOU'RE NO USC!"

In the next breath, If USC can keep their rival game why can't U?"

Hahaha... You guys crack me up.

Springville, UT

Just as I predicted when Utah went to the PAC 10/12 and BYU went indie, this rivalry is about to die. Utah looks at BYU like it does USU, and BYU has yet to find itself. The culprit? Greed in college football.

Idaho Falls, ID

I agree with Whittingham - nothing is more important than being a mediocre Pac-12 program.

A Scientist
Provo, UT

This article changes the definition of "marriage".

I thought DN was opposed to that.

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