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Published: Wednesday, May 30 2012 7:24 p.m. MDT

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BYU Joe
MISSION VIEJO, CA

Garbage by any other name still stinks as bad. They are still building a system that will result in nearly the same thing.

Now I would not complain anymore if I was a UTE fan and will only complain as a Cougar fan because we are still on the outside looking in - although closer.

baddog
Cedar Rapids, IA

I don't see much of a change. The top 4 is barely better than a top two. Perhaps I'm still biased against the current process.

Hawkyo
SYRACUSE, UT

It should have been an eight or sixteen team playoff. More money, and who really believes that it couldn't be set up to avoid missing school? December is awash with time and the first week of Jan. could still host the finale.

Cougarista
Salt Lake City, UT

Big money corrupts and the BCS monopoly is built on big money. They play a shell game with the onlookers, but they still get the money. Education, integrity and fairness take a back seat. Until we adopt the Ivy League mentality toward athletics, things will not change.

HawkAlum
SANDY, UT

The fact is, in the past there have been numerous instances (as outlined in the article) of undefeated or one loss teams that have been left out of BCS games. With this system we still have that drama, combined with an even greater source of controversy: Who are the top four teams? We're going to be dealing with the same subjective politics as before.

That being said, it's great to see that college football is moving in the right direction. Hopefully this will eventually lead to an expanded 8-16 team playoff in the future. We have to start somewhere though.

Brave Sir Robin
San Diego, CA

@BYU Joe

I associate with a lot of Utah fans and I don't know a single one who thinks the BCS is good. Just because we're part of it now doesn't mean it's suddenly the right way to go.

Idaho.Aggie
Idaho Falls, ID

Here's an idea to have traditional bowl games and also reduce the influence of the pollsters in selecting the playoff teams. The 4 playoff teams should be the winners of the:

Rose Bowl: PAC12 vs Big10
Sugar Bowl: SEC vs Big12
Fiesta Bowl: Conference Champ in top 12 vs Conference Champ in Top 12
Orange Bowl: Conference Champ in top 12 vs Conference Champ in Top 12

*Fiesta/Orange bowls would have to select the 4 highest ranked conf champ/indep teams ranked in top 12. A higher ranked independent team, such as a ND or BYU would qualify as a Conf Champ and could technically push lower ranked conference champs out if if their in the top 12.
*For the Fiesta/Orange bowls, at-large teams (non-conference champs) could only be chosen when there are not enough qualified teams meeting the above criteria.
The Fiesta would always have priority for the highest available ranked team out West and the Orange for the the highest available East team.

3grandslams
Iowa City, IA

The fans knew it firsts! I read and listened to radio show hosts, journalists, tv personalities praise the BSC while at the same time the fans were screaming unfair and bogus. It took much longer for "media" to admit what they knew deep inside.

This new system, this fan knows, will still be bogus. But I'll sit and wait for media types to praise it...again.

SoonerUte
Salt Lake City, UT

Things are changing, but the intent is to be more exclusionary. There is a lot of money at stake, and sharing isn't part of the plan. Going to a 8 or 16 team playoff increases the "risk" of sharing money outside the circle of the Big Four (PAC12, SEC, Big10, Big12). Even Notre Dame isn't getting the special consideration that they once enjoyed.

Pete1215
Lafayette, IN

Football has an unsolvable problem. Basketball has 7-game playoffs, so the winner has prevailed over time. Football only has one-game, winner-take-all tournaments, thus the results are statistically indefensible. Thus these arguments will continue until the ACLU and the Tea Party join hands and sing Kumbaya.

BYU_Aggie
LOGAN, UT

I really don't think this is much improvement at all. All this does is create a "Big 4" group of conferences, instead of the previous big 6. This article gives numerous examples of BCS injustice, but the new playoff will not be any more equitable, and wouldn't have given justice to almost all of those teams. What we'll see is this:
Game 1: SEC vs. Pac 12 champions
Game 2: Big 12 vs. Big 10 champions
Or any other shuffling of these four conference champions.

Of course, this would have allowed say, OSU to play Alabama this last year, instead of us all having to settle for only the SEC rematch, but other than that, the MWC, C-USA, WAC, or even the ACC and Big East are all getting left out this time around. Let's us not kid ourselves, the only way there is a fair post-season for a national title, is when there are enough bids to spread beyond the original big 6 and half of the SEC.

HS Sport Dude
South Jordan, UT

It will still be the SEC in the end. Look at the top 4 teams from last year and make an argument that the title game would not have been Alabama versus LSU. I like the system we have and now it is even better. Even more of a chance for the SEC to win national championships.

WasatchReb
Provo, UT

Kansas and Ohio State are the perfect examples of why this new 4 team "tournament" is ridiculous. Both those schools struggled, in hoops, at the beginning of the season...but used the season to get better, and both ended up in the NCAA Final Four....right now, for 99% of the schools, one loss eliminates you from this 4 team playoff. However, if you put in the top 8 conference champions and 8 at-large teams, you would certainly be getting the best teams playing their best football.

If D2 can do a 16 team playoff (they're at 20 teams now aren't they?), why can't D1 figure this out? Because there's too much $$ that wouldn't be managed by the large conferences, that's why. EVERYBODY knows a 16 team playoff would be bring in so much more money....but the former BCS conferences don't want that money going to others schools besides theirs....and hence, we get stuck with a stupid four team playoff.

Mike in Texas
Cedar City, Utah

Malone is right. A 360 degree turn. Which, when executed, puts them going in the same direction as when they started the turn.

PizzInovations
Chandler, AZ

This is an excellent and entertaining read, Doug. Unfortunately, the BCS powers that be are without a conscience so even if they read this they wouldn't feel any guilt or remorse. Your next article needs to be about the allegations that the TV stations' contracts (or pending contracts) w/the "Big 4" conferences are requiring all schools be available for Sunday play, thus automatically discriminating against BYU and apparently shutting them out of any Big 12 invite.

Moderate
Salt Lake City, UT

"If D2 can do a 16 team playoff, why can't D1 figure this out?"
In football, the teams ranked 14-15-16 have 3 losses. Adding teams that low is just hoping for a Cindarella Story. I agree with you that 1 regular season loss shouldn't end your title run. There is a pretty good chance that the best team can be found ranked in the top 8 or top 10 at the end of the year.

The BCS isn't any worse than what was in place before. It met the goal of earning more money for the sport. If crowning a true champion is the goal, consult with the NCAA. Interesting that they don't officially recognize D1 football national championships. Such things are just the opinion of AP Writers, Coaches, Computers, and fans.

Mildred in Fillmore
Salt Lake City, UT

Three of the teams in the 4 team playoff should come from the current BCS conferences with the 4th team being the best team in the Independant Conference.

Ironhide
Salt Lake City, UT

I once had a professor that said "I will flunk you on your paper if you squeeze the margins, make the font bigger, or quadruple space paragraphs or headers. It's all because you think I'm that stupid, not for any other reason." These BCS goons, with all of their ridiculous responses(which Doug quoted nicely) really think we're all "that stupid". I know it's just a game, but to be played like fools over a system that, again, Doug revisited perfectly, is the frustrating part. I'm a cougar, but the Utes got the shaft. We'll never know how they could have competed against the best because the computers and coaches made the decisions. It really is more of the same with this new system. It should be 16 teams, at least. Shorten the season if necessary. You know these old men are laughing behind closed doors at how dumb we all are for not combining our voices to demand a change sooner. Old men keeping the money for the "big boys". I hope some day these clowns realize they will be mocked mercilessly for their decisions and defense for this system.

Mark from Montana
Aurora, CO

Let say this as clearly as I can.....

I Don't Care!

If people would realize how silly it is to watch school teams bash their heads out on the field, while grown men and women watch, the BCS would have never existed. I am proud to say that I have never paid any attention to college ball, and I gave up on pro ball when I was still very young. About the time I matured a bit and realized there were better things to do with my time than sit in front of the tube for hours on end each Saturday and Sunday.

So I will come out of the closet and make a totally clean admission....I also cannot stand golf, I think basketball is as bad, baseball is even worse, and bass fishing, to watch is the worst of them all......well OK, there is something worse....watching grown men drive around a track 500 times.....that is worse.

I will also admit that the one sport, is it a sport?, that I watched when I was in junior high, was the PBA. Yes that is right, I spent time watching Earl Anthony roll them strikes.

PGVikingDad
Pleasant Grove, UT

Doug, you're double-fisting the same poisonous Kool-Aid into your gob, and belching the company line between gulps. Buuuuurp! This is a slap in the face for college football fans outside the current BCS conferences, and you know it. Nothing has changed. Not. One. Thing. With a four-team playoff in place, what are the odds that one of those teams will *ever* be from a non-AQ conference? You know the answer and the truth, but you side-stepped both with conviction and aplomb.

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