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Published: Wednesday, May 30 2012 12:00 a.m. MDT

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PeanutGallery
Salt Lake City, UT

Sen. Hatch is calling in favors and endorsements from various groups and individuals with whom he has smoothly developed relationships for this very purpose - so that he could USE them.

Some of Hatch's endorsements are quite surprising, because they go against the conservative principles of the endorser. This shows that Hatch is willing to do anything to cozy up to those whose endorsement he so desperately wants ("Sincerity? Sure, I can fake that.").

Hatch is having two other senators come here this week to promote him. But these endorsements are only a professional courtesy and mean nothing. This week he's also having the NRA come here to conduct a big "workshop" with NRA members to win their grassroots help (which offends me, as an NRA supporter). But the NRA'S endorsement also means nothing - they are simply following their annoying policy. Namely, if the incumbent generally votes pro-second-amendment, then the NRA endorses them, even if the challenger is more conservative.

I'd feel a lot better about Hatch if he had the openness to stand in front of his constituents and debate Liljenquist on TV, instead of hiding while his ENDORSERS do all the "speaking."

knowswhatcounts
CENTERVILLE, UT

I heartily agree Mr. Haycock. I strongly encourage the people of Utah to open their eyes to what Senator Hatch has become. He himself is at the root of the "entitlement" problem in this country. He feels entitled to six more years. Why? So he can balance the budget? What has he been doing for the last 36 years? His age is NOT the issue. His record is the issue. I am saddened by the "Good Ol' Boys Club" that perpetuates the political machine that Hatch has become. He feels entitled to keep "HIS" office- not answer to the people of Utah about what he has done. He refuses to debate on television. He is in Utah this week, but can't find time for a debate? Ask yourself why you are voting for Hatch. Sincerely search your heart. Is it because he serves the people of Utah? I believe that he serves only himself. He has bought votes with favors and contributions. It is past time for his "Chicago style" of politics to end. Utah... we are better than this. Don't let Hatch bully and buy his way into another six years!

swede1952
Smithfield, UT

The current slew of pro-Hatch TV ads ONLY indicates increased desperation from the Hatch campaign. Hatch has been around for so long, that he has secured a slate of "favors" due. Now in 2012, Hatch is calling in his markers. Instead of resurrecting former politicians, why DOESN'T Hatch find contemporary spokesmen to triumph his cause? Yes, many Utahns recognize Norm Bangerter, Jake Garn, Jim Hansen, etc. ALL important in their time. But may I point out, ALL are in retirement and have moved on! Why is Orrin Hatch, age 78, the contemporary of these men still stuck in Washington, DC???

Could it be that Hatch is so addicted to POWER, he simply can't allow himself to move on to retirement? How sad! When most of his peers are enjoying retirement, Hatch insists on running for re-election. Do you know of ANY other Utah Senator that has run for a 7th term? No, because there isn't one! If Orrin is bent on serving there are other avenues to accomplish this. How about serving as an LDS mission president, or an LDS temple president, or volunteering for a visiting professorship, etc.? Explore other venues, Senator Hatch, please.

one old man
Ogden, UT

And Liljenquist will be more of the same.

Break the cycle of abuse and elect Scott Howell as our next Senator.

Flashback
Kearns, UT

Hatch is in office, he's doing a good job, get over it.

On the other hand
Spanish Fork, UT

Rarely do I hear the Liljenquist camp give a reason for voting for their candidate. They seem fixated on why not to vote for Orrin Hatch. I agree with them about not re-electing Hatch, but it does't follow that we should let Dan Liljenquist take his place. If you want a guy who will consistently fight for Utah values and not sell out to the most vocal fringe group, who isn't beholden to ALEC or FreedomWorks, elect Scott Howell.

bald man running
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With all due respect to "On the other hand", the article we're commenting on here is about Hatch and why he should retire, not about why Dan Liljenquist should be elected. But since you asked:
* Entitlement reform. He worked hard to make Medicaid more solvent in Utah, he'll work hard for the same result in DC -- reforming our "mandatory spending" to sustainable and affordable levels.
* Supports term limits and will self-limit to 3 terms.
* Opposes SOPA/PIPA
* Pension reform - he did it in Utah and will do it in DC - And will refuse to take a congressional pension.
* State's rights and lands issues - Dan will work to get control of Utah's lands in the hands of Utahns.

Please visit his website for more, or just go listen to him at any of his events or previously-recorded debates (since there won't be any new ones thanks to scaredy-Hatch)

PeanutGallery
Salt Lake City, UT

Sen. Hatch used to be a solid conservative, but now he's conservative when it's CONVENIENT - especially around re-election time. He has become arrogant, feeling that he's "entitled" to his seat, and telling delegates that Utah will never have a senator as good as himself. When Hatch has ignored the Constitution, his votes have contributed to our nation's fiscal crisis. He has become part of the problem in Washington.

Hatch is apparently afraid to stand and defend his record. So instead he sends out all the endorsers that he's schmoozed, and has them tell us how "conservative" he is and how we can't get along without him. Sorry, but it's not flying with many of us.

As I said, I'd feel a lot better about Sen. Hatch if he had the courage to stand in front of his constituents and debate Liljenquist on TV, instead of trotting out his lineup of carefully groomed endorsers.

tenx
Santa Clara, UT

He is the last of the crowd of Congressman who oversaw the decline of the USA and our economy, mainly due to our debt problems. I think better to take a chance on a new crowd rather than stick to the same ones who put us where we are. The sole purpose of the Tea Party was to call attention to our debt. No one seemed to be noticing before they came on the scene. Retire Hatch... get someone new. And FOR SURE retire BO.

Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

WHY should we believe Sen. Hatch when he says this is his "last" term?

He SAYS he's a conservative but doesn't vote that way.

His (and others) "reaching across the aisle" and "compromises" have gotten us 16 trillion in debt.

IF we re-elect Hatch, we've effectively told him he can stay as long as he wants in D.C. and vote ANY way he wants. He's done it up to now, why change?

swede1952
Smithfield, UT

PeanutGallery is right! This trotting out of former politicians is laughable! If Orrin is so PROUD of his accomplishments, let's hear it from him in a debate with Dan. Utahns would like to be reminded why we voted for Hatch in 2006, and what he's done since. I'm still asking the question, "Name 5 things that Orrin Hatch's seniority has done for the State of Utah???" Not possible! What a charade this whole affair has become! Orrin, if you want the job, then tell ALL Utahns why we should return you to office. It's time for debates! Otherwise, stand aside, it's time to pass the baton to a younger man with considerable more energy, free of political favors owed, and consistently CONSERVATIVE, not just when it's convenient.

Dan Liljenquist will be an excellent replacement to Orrin Hatch. Dan knows how to work across the aisle. He is endorsed by many Utah state senators. He is fiscally bold, will look out for Utah and ALL her people, and will NOT serve beyond three terms. Dan is a once-in-a-lifetime candidate. A vote for Dan is a vote for Utah's future generations!

Fitz
Murray, UT

From my point of view, all I can say about this letter is AMEN. Please, Sen. Hatch, it is time to fold camp.

Vaughn J
Kearns, UT

Hatch is as conservative as the Tea party poster bot Mike Lee; who has voted almost the same way as Hatch except for his rant on Judicial appointments this year.

Liljenquist Pension reform was in the works prior to his election. The legislature was studying it so it was not his great idea, He takes credit because he became the Senate Sponsor, Lucky position to get when he was elected. What did it actually do? I have heard that the system still has problems. He changed the system so that defined contribution state. Not saying this is bad but it shifts the liability of the pension program from the state to the individual. What happens to the retiree's when the market crashes, like it did in 2008, that caused the Pension problems and results in significant loss of their pensions that they probably cannot afford.

Congressional Pension? Yes wait, wait , wait , until he retired and watch him change his mind. With his salary being limited to what he can make as a civilian, compared to a senator I suspect at that time that he will accept the Money. Remember there are no Guarantees that he stay the course.

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