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  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    May 30, 2012 4:01 p.m.

    @MLH

    As for the respect issue, I was pointing out that it's hard to respect U when you lose to teams like Colorado (107- the outlier), Washington (44), ASU (41), and Cal (38) by an average of 17 points a game (average Sagarin ranking of 56, 41 without Colorado).

    BYU lost to Texas (17), TCU (20), and Utah (38 - the outlier) by an average of 18 pts a game (average Sagarin ranking of 25, 18.5 w/o Utah). BYU lost to two solid teams and 1 ok team. Utah lost to 3 ok teams and 1 REALLY bad team.

    But the clincher for me is that your own conference doesn't respect U. They put your first ever PAC 12 conference game vs USC on the MWC Lite channel (Versus) while Colorado got to play the Trojans on ESPN2. Your only game on ESPN2 came courtesy of BYU and U had as many games on ESPNU as BYU's RUGBY team.

    Like U said "BYU has respect from most people in college football".

    Utah does not, which was made all the more apparent by the Utes amazing TV deal with KJZZ last year.

    Kind of sad, actually.

  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    May 30, 2012 3:36 p.m.

    @MLH "That gives me a very good idea of the knowledge that you have when it comes to college football."

    Lol, I love this statement. You said that every PAC 12 team that Utah played was better than BYU. Here are the final Sagarin rankings for every PAC 12 team that Utah played (including Utah) and BYU:

    USC - 12
    BYU - 34
    Cal - 38
    Utah - 39
    ASU - 41
    Washington - 44
    Arizona - 64
    UCLA - 66
    Wazzou - 83
    Oregon St. - 87
    Colorado - 107

    Only USC finished higher in the Sagarin rankings than BYU and, if the Trojans would have qualified, they are the only PAC 12 team that Utah played that would have finished higher than BYU in the AP and Coaches Poll.

    So the nation acknowledges that, outside of USC, BYU was better than every team that Utah played in the PAC 12.

    I'm just going to assume that you were speaking from a 'frantic and emotional' point of view when you made that statement, since you have no data to back up your claims.

    But thanks for playing :)

    Go Cougars!

  • MLH SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    May 30, 2012 11:55 a.m.

    truecoug1

    You never said a truer word. Utah does not, unfortunately. It's hard for people to respect U when U lose to teams like Colorado, get blown out by a 6-7 ASU team on your home field, and get trounced by two 7-6 teams in Washington and California.

    That gives me a very good idea of the knowledge that you have when it comes to college football.

    Y dad

    You take that #25 I can't say enough how impressive that is.

    worf

    Really-54-10 and you just can't be quiet, we will just keep beating you every year and then you guys can be #25. You really have NO idea what it is all about. Have a great 6-6 season.

    Duckhunter
    "every one of them better than the Y"-------YEP and I don't even have to "snicker"

    sammyg

    Each time you post all I can say is WOW

    Oh, and good luck to the big D-lineman

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    May 29, 2012 10:30 p.m.

    Over the years, BYU built the ute program with TV venue, a supply of coaches, and other contributions. Amazing how gratitude transform to envy.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    May 29, 2012 6:07 p.m.

    and the pain of the 54-10 continues.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    May 29, 2012 3:35 p.m.

    2BCSWins

    4-5 in your conference and you get a participation trophy, yeah baby!

    "...based on the results the Y lost by more then 6 TD's on their home field and you left in the 3rd quarter....snicker"

    Like it never happened... National Coaches Poll award BYU #25 ranking (nullifying or rather substantiating that the score was a fluke)... Utes nowhere

    Oops national relevancy again... Utes not so much (we get no respect)...snicker. LOL

    Deal with it.

  • Colorado's BFF Springville, UT
    May 29, 2012 3:22 p.m.

    Thanks Utes! We love you guys!

  • 2BCSWINS West of I15, UT
    May 29, 2012 2:55 p.m.

    @donaldhunter
    "Really? Why don't you ask oregon st. about that? Of course utah managed to win all of 4 games against those teams and that was without even playing the two best teams in the conference oregon and stanford. Based on the results utah was the 8th team in that conference and there are some really bad teams in that conference."

    Yet 54 - 10....snicker.....yet 7 of 10...snicker....yet 2 BCS wins and 2 undefeated seasons...snicker

    LOL at duckhunter logic...based on the results the Y lost by more then 6 TD's on their home field and you left in the 3rd quarter....snicker

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    May 29, 2012 2:53 p.m.

    Another example of why BYU is the top football team in the state. Players go to BYU for its environment, while some go to schools to party.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    May 29, 2012 2:15 p.m.

    @mlh

    "every one of them better than the Y"

    Really? Why don't you ask oregon st. about that? Of course utah managed to win all of 4 games against those teams and that was without even playing the two best teams in the conference oregon and stanford. Based on the results utah was the 8th team in that conference and there are some really bad teams in that conference.

    LOL! at utah "fan" 'logic'.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    May 29, 2012 1:11 p.m.

    @mlh

    *snicker*

  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    May 29, 2012 1:09 p.m.

    @MLH "Utah played 9 PAC-12 teams last year and everyone of them where better than the Y."

    LOL, hilarious statement since, according to Sagarin, the only team you played in the PAC 12 that was better than BYU was USC. I think I'll take his word for it over yours.

    "BYU has respect from most people in college football"

    You never said a truer word. Utah does not, unfortunately. It's hard for people to respect U when U lose to teams like Colorado, get blown out by a 6-7 ASU team on your home field, and get trounced by two 7-6 teams in Washington and California.

    Which leaves U fans with the only thing that matters to U: the 54-10 fluke trouncing of the 'irrelevant', 'mid-majorey; school down south.

    Good ol' Utah...U say U've left us behind and that we're no longer relevant, yet here U are, stomping your feet and trying to get attention so that people will actually think you're relevant.

    Once a little bro, always a little bro.

    Go Cougars!

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    May 29, 2012 1:08 p.m.

    MLH

    "Every one of them better than the Y"? Oregon State comes to mind...

    Just because half of them were better than U, like Colorado, doesn't make them better than the Y.

    We've got #25. You've got 54-10. Since we can't take back 54-10, at least not until next September, I'll take #25.

  • MLH SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    May 29, 2012 12:08 p.m.

    sammyg

    Way to go #25, that's what you guys get to shoot for every year. I could care less if it makes you feel good being #25 keep on telling everyone that. Utah played 9 PAC-12 teams last year and everyone of them where better than the Y. It's a different world watching teams that have NFL caliber players week in and week out. BYU has respect from most people in college football and thats why with a record of 10-3 or whatever you will always be #25. NUMBER 25 keep it up, Utah has passed you by...

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    May 29, 2012 11:28 a.m.

    This is a nice signing for BYU. Glad to see them open up more to the JC ranks. It is an important part of recruiting around mission plans. Just can't go overboard. Sounds like this kid has his head on straight and will be an asset to the BYU program.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    May 28, 2012 7:38 p.m.

    Naval Vet

    It seems the rants are getting pretty 'frantic and emotional' lately. Especially the last one. Having a bad day?

    "Well if I am the one who decides who IS relevant from who is NOT..."

    It would seem that you think rather highly of your opinions and I note that you like to capitalize the word NOT alot. Let me try a variation.

    The decision as to who is relevant and who is not has NEVER been yours. LOL

    That 2011 season Coaches Poll must be a real 'burr in your saddle', huh?

    Yep, your little team on 'the hill' will be struggling to get over the hump in conference play... every year.

    We know BYU has its scheduling challenges these beginning years but in year two of independence they will play more BCS teams than they have ever played in a season and it will continue to improve. As a fan I'm pretty excited about it.

    Did going 4-5, 6th aka 8th place, and losing to Colorado get you excited?

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 28, 2012 6:08 p.m.

    Striker:

    "You truly are showing how relevant BYU is by your coming back day after day, and hour after hour."

    Well if I am the one who decides who IS relevant from who is NOT, as you've implied, then the jury is out. You're NOT!

    If the determinant of who is relevant from who is not is decided by who is on your schedule, and your schedule is WAC-ish and mid-majorey [and it IS], then again, you are NOT!

    If where a team typically spends their postseason determines who is relevant from who is not, and your team traditionally does so in bush-league, 3rd-tier, very mid-majorey bowls [like the ones the cougars find themselves in], then again, you are NOT!

    Good luck playing your final season down there in the WAC before it folds for good.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    May 28, 2012 5:09 p.m.

    When a person goes to an opponents blog to post multiple times, time and time again, article after article, you know that team is relevant. When that same person rarely posts on their own teams blog, you know that team they supposedly cheer for is irrelevant. Thanks all once again for all the attention to BYU sports. You truly are showing how relevant BYU is by your coming back day after day, and hour after hour.

    It's fun to follow BYU sports, or why else would you be here?

    I'm excited this guy is getting so much attention. He'll add some massive beef to that line and I can't wait to see him out there1

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 28, 2012 10:59 a.m.

    Bluesmack:

    "I have always made it a rule, that if a person gets on here and states 'for the record' his or hers athletic or Academic prowess, I would need proof...."

    Oh really? And what kind of "proof" were you looking for? A copy of some old yearbooks? You said, "It's so obvious you have never played organized team sports, right?" That "?" mark at the end your sentence implied that it was a question. And per your question, I gave you my answer. Saying "Nuh uh, show me proof" doesn't suggest you don't believe that it's true.

    It suggests you don't WANT to believe the truth. Typical coug still stuck living in the 80s.

    I have always made it a rule that if I don't feel I would be able to accept another person's answer when received at face value, then there wouldn't be any point in in asking the question.

    That's why I never ask you if you and Duckhunter are both the same person.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    May 27, 2012 4:49 p.m.

    Naval Vet

    "I lettered in Football..."

    Uncle Rico...

    "How much you wanna make a bet I can throw a football over them mountains?... Yeah... Coach woulda put me in fourth quarter, we would've been state champions. No doubt. No doubt in my mind."

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    May 27, 2012 2:48 p.m.

    "Hedgehog, does it take much to devastate Western Michigan?"

    -Cougarblue

    Clearly, no.

  • CougarBlue Heber City, UT
    May 27, 2012 10:18 a.m.

    Morpunkt, no just in tiny Glendora.
    Hedgehog, does it take much to devastate Western Michigan?

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    May 27, 2012 9:40 a.m.

    @CougFaninTX

    Please pay more attention to who is actually making a post before attributing it to someone else.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    May 27, 2012 9:37 a.m.

    @naval vet

    "I lettered in Football, Wrestling, Lacrosse, and Track in high schools in Virginia and Texas, and played 2 club sports at the U."

    *snicker*

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    May 27, 2012 8:17 a.m.

    Naval Vet's insecurity is fully exposed on this one.

  • Proud Ute ,
    May 27, 2012 7:55 a.m.

    I wish the young man well.
    Perhaps he'll be the first one out of Bronco's program to get drafted.
    Until then he's getting a good education.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    May 27, 2012 7:48 a.m.

    @duckhunter

    Tanner Mangum, Troy Hinds, Butch Pauu, Austin Hoyt, Matt Hadley, Dylan Collie Josh Weeks, Taysom Hill, Jamaal Willimas, (and the list goes on) are Idaho type recruits? U should be more objective and less bitter.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    May 27, 2012 7:45 a.m.

    @Duckhunted

    you said:
    "Utah is battling USC UCLA, Stanford type of recruits"..

    Really? Good luck with that my friend.

    If you wanted to be obective, you wouled be able to read that Utah and BYU go after many of the same kids, especially the LDS kids, in-state and out.

    What you need to realize is that Utah will never compete in recrutiing against the Elite Pac 12 schools, among which Utah is not to be found.

    The Facilities, Tradition, Legacy and Brand of a USC, Stanford, UCLA, ASU, Oregon, and Washington are not even in the same universe as Utah.

    Utah will be recruiting against Wazzu, Oregon State and Colorado.

    Seriously, when does Utah's inflated ego deflate?
    You would think the Colorado game would have brought U some humility.

    BYU, on the other hand, is and always will be, BYU.
    They offer a unique opportunity, not only to the great LDS Athlete but they actually have a National Brand and History. They are a Household Name and Utah simply is not.

    As time goes by Utah will become well established as just one of 12 and rarely in the spotlight, as has been their 100+ year history.

  • Cougars1 Bluffdale, UT
    May 27, 2012 7:16 a.m.

    Duckhunted
    highland, utah

    blusesmack,

    What don't you understand BYU is now fighting for Idaho type recruits... Utah is battling USC UCLA, Stanford type of recruits... Enjoy BYUTV!!!

    Like Taysom Hill? Your comment makes no sense. It's just simply not true. BYU recruits nation wide. In fact they cover far more geographical area than Utah...Enjoy KJZZ!!!

  • Duckhunted highland, utah
    May 26, 2012 11:52 p.m.

    blusesmack,

    What don't you understand BYU is now fighting for Idaho type recruits... Utah is battling USC UCLA, Stanford type of recruits... Enjoy BYUTV!!!

  • Bluesmack south jordan, UT
    May 26, 2012 8:01 p.m.

    @Naval Vet

    BYU is WAC-ish and Mid-majory? So that obviously explains why you're always posting on BYU articles. One wouldn't want to waste so much of his time on such a lowly program. I can't seem to understand your rants. Your thoughts proclaim one thing, but your actions proclaim relevancy, superiority, and significance. It's very confusing!

    Alex Smith to my knowledge was just a Peyton Manning signing away from total bust? I guess lucky for him and you the 49ers had no one else to turn to. Eric Weddle? He is good! I have no argument with you on him. Still, till those 2 take their teams to a Super Bowl, you should stop comparing players.

    I have always made it a rule, that if a person gets on here and states 'for the record' his or hers athletic or Academic prowess, I would need proof....Well? If not then I'll take it as just a FRANTIC and EMOTIONAL boast, by one who is JEALOUS of BYU.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    May 26, 2012 6:50 p.m.

    @Hedgehog aka naval vet aka CO Ute aka williary

    He signed with Washington out of High School!
    I guess that fact escapes you.
    Try reading with comprehension next time.

  • metamoracoug metamora, IL
    May 26, 2012 5:46 p.m.

    Navalvet:

    If he graduated from the Y, he is a BYU alumni. And my guess is that he is quite magnanimous and cheers for the cougars -- except for one football game out of the year . . . a good lesson for all of us.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 26, 2012 4:32 p.m.

    Riverton Cougar:

    So, what are you saying? That Matt Reynolds CHOSE not to be drafted in last spring's NFL draft? If he was good enough, he would have been drafted.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    May 26, 2012 3:49 p.m.

    "Conversely, the reason why the cougars didn't get any players drafted was because they just didn't have any players good enough."

    Matt Reynolds was good enough. He was ranked in the top 25 college football players in the nation. Sometimes things don't always work out, and sometimes athletes choose to not be athletes as a career.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 26, 2012 3:15 p.m.

    CougFaninTX:

    "U had one draft pick last year, and we didn't get any."

    So what's your point? Whittingham had been the Head Coach at the U for the past 7 seasons prior to last Spring's draft. Are you under some erroneous assumption that Whittingham had only one player drafted in all that time? And while the 2012 draft wasn't our best showing, know that the only reason only one player was drafted was because Star opted to return for his Senior year. Conversely, the reason why the cougars didn't get any players drafted was because they just didn't have any players good enough.

    Don't be so frantic and emotional.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 26, 2012 3:01 p.m.

    metamoracoug:

    "And yet, Whit is a coug . . ."

    Correction: From '78-'81, Whittingham played for the cougars. He even coached under Edwards as a graduate assistant from '85-'86. However, those 6-yrs in Provo have been far surpassed by his 19 consecutive years on the Hill. Whit WAS a cougar. He IS NOW a UTE! A point only further validated by the choice he made 8-yrs ago when asked to return to Provo. Given the choice, he "Chose the Red". Case closed.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    May 26, 2012 2:47 p.m.

    @Naval Vet
    "Let's be honest with ourselves here. Whittingham has done a far better job at putting Utes into the NFL than Mendenhall had done likewise for the cougs."

    You are absolutely right. U had one draft pick last year, and we didn't get any. We both need to aspire to Utah States system since they had multiple picks.

    But is the objective to get players in the NFL, or is the objective to win games? I'm the first to concede, U gave us a beating last year but on the whole last season was a more successful season for the Cougs than the Utes. We finished in the Top 25. I don't think too many people would argue that BYU would have beat U in November or December last year.

    Okay, Utah back to the real story - try to stay on topic. Hpefully Brown will pan out. If he can keep his grades up and qualify academically, he could have a real impact. D Line is an area of concern for 2013. So is linebacker, since we will lose Kaveinga, Ogletree, and possibly Van Noy if he goes early.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 26, 2012 2:44 p.m.

    Bluesmack (cont.):

    And Weddle did not become the NFL's highest paid Safety because he artfully bounced a ball off his head and into the waiting arms of the receiver he was defending, but rather for all those OTHER plays where he really exasperated opposing teams' offenses.

    And for the record, I hadn't seen that alleged play, so I don't even know if that really happened. As a Philadelphian, I primarily watch NFC East football; not NFC West. THAT was the impact I was talking about. I hope that answered your bitter, jealous, frantic and emotional question.

    Also for the record, I HAVE played organized sports. I lettered in Football, Wrestling, Lacrosse, and Track in high schools in Virginia and Texas, and played 2 club sports at the U.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 26, 2012 2:34 p.m.

    Bluesmack:

    "So by your thought process, you proclaim BYU irrelevant because their best player had never heard of BYU before and their new mammoth linemen that just committed, a member of the church, hardly knows anything about BYU. You take that as speaking volumes?"

    I wouldn't say the Y is irrelevant "BECAUSE" those players didn't know about the cougars. The Y is irrelevant because they're so WAC-ish and mid-majorey, and because no other relevant conference wants them. However, "BECAUSE" the cougars are so WAC-ish and mid-majorey, THAT's why Brown and Hoffman had been shrugging their shoulders when asked what they know about the cougars. It semantics really. A matter of cause and effect. I hope that answers your question.

    Now on to Smith and Weddle...

    After winning an NFC West title, and finishing with a 13-3 overal record last season, Smith did NOT bust, owned the NFL's 9th highest QB rating, and subsequently re-signed to a new $33 million contract. Ouch. That must really sting those frantic and emotional Indy-WACey Y fans such as yourself.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 26, 2012 2:16 p.m.

    @metamoracoug

    "And yet, Whit is a coug"
    __________

    If he's such a coug why didn't he put a stop to that 54-10 beat down? Hmmmmmm ... weird.

  • metamoracoug metamora, IL
    May 26, 2012 1:56 p.m.

    Navelvet & Hedgie:

    And yet, Whit is a coug . . .

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    May 26, 2012 1:35 p.m.

    "Whittingham has done a far better job at putting Utes into the NFL than Mendenhall had done"

    Naval Vet.

    Naval, that might be a bit of an understatement. Kwhitt has sent a total of 17 players he recruited to the NFL. Over that same period of time Broco has sent a total of ZERO (0) players he recruited to the NFL.

    Not even worthy of a debate.

  • Bluesmack south jordan, UT
    May 26, 2012 1:18 p.m.

    @Naval Vet

    Let's be honest with ourselves. It's so obvious you have never played organized team sports, right? To name players and proclaim their lack of significant impact to a program is just unbelievable.

    NFL players? Alex Smith? WHO! You mean the #1 pick that is about to become one of the biggest busts of all time? Are you talking about Eric Weddle? He may be the highest paid safety, but the last time I watched him play, the Football bounced off his head and the opposing receiver caught it for a touchdown. Is that the impact you're talking about?

  • Wally West SLC, UT
    May 26, 2012 1:10 p.m.

    re: worf 11:34 a.m. May 26, 2012

    And when they resolve the QB situation; USC had better be wary.

  • Bluesmack south jordan, UT
    May 26, 2012 12:43 p.m.

    @Naval Vet

    So by your thought process, you proclaim BYU irrelevant because their best player had never heard of BYU before and their new mammoth linemen that just committed, a member of the church, hardly knows anything about BYU. You take that as speaking volumes?

    Haha! I take that as speaking volumes that you're obsessed. that you have a one track mind! That BYU starts your day and ends it. Funny how our views differ?

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 26, 2012 12:42 p.m.

    Bluesmack:

    Let's be honest with ourselves here. Whittingham has done a far better job at putting Utes into the NFL than Mendenhall had done likewise for the cougs. 2011 was the last year of eligibility for the bulk of your 2005 recruiting class. Here are your '05 2-star recruits:

    Ashworth, Aulai, Bolden, Covey, [Shawn] Doman, Hafoka, Hooks, Howard, Hulbert, Luekenga, [Harvey] Unga, Vaihai

    I see ONE player on that list that made a significant impact, and has since moved on to the NFL. And to MY knowledge, Unga hadn't made it up from the Bears' practice team yet, so I wouldn't put him in the same league as Utah's #1 draft pick/starting 49ers QB, or the highest paid Safety in the NFL.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 26, 2012 12:19 p.m.

    Congrats Cougs, if this guy has any speed with that size then this could be one of those under the radar guys that comes in and makes an impact.
    That being said, I suspect this guy will never be a BYU Cougar - sounds like he's in a bit of a hole academically. I've read this story before.

  • Bluesmack south jordan, UT
    May 26, 2012 12:02 p.m.

    Hilarious when Ute fans pull out their little 'RIVALS' rating book on all BYU recruits, and start pointing out their shortcomings and inferior talent compared to Utah recruits.

    So going by the standards they have set, Eric Weddle, Alex Smith, Brian Johnson and many other former Utes just don't offer much, or just don't make the cut. Hey, BYU would've gladly taken them off your hands. Talk about a fan base with no sense!...Hilarious!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 26, 2012 12:01 p.m.

    Bluesmack:

    "If you truly believe what you post, then do us BYU fans a favor and show us how irrelevant BYU is by never, ever posting your comments on another BYU article."

    I thought I was doing cougar fans a favor by illustrating how irrelevant you are by posting facts how Ma'ataua Brown didn't know much about your program before just now. That's even worse than the revelation about your star WR not knowing much about your program either until his last semester of high school. At least Hoffman isn't LDS, but what can you say about Brown? How can an LDS football player, from Southern California, not know about the Y if the cougars are so relevant? I think that speaks far greater volumns about your rapidly declining significance in the college football world than the 230,000 or so other registered Utah alumni who don't comment on these threads.

    Anyway, congratulations on your latest recruiting battle with Western Michigan. Way to "send a message" to Kalamazoo.

  • Cougars1 Bluffdale, UT
    May 26, 2012 12:00 p.m.

    hedgehog
    Ann Arbor, MI

    "Western Michigan must be devastated. Pretty sure this will be a lead story on Sport Center/"

    So that's the criteria for a great recruit? Tell us all, when did Utah ever have a commit that was worthy of that criteria when they committed? Utah fans....

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 26, 2012 11:38 a.m.

    Bluesmack: "I definitely believe Utah is irrelevant, hence I don't follow one thing about them ... Now that's how you know a team is irrelevant!"

    -----------

    Don't worry you'll learn who they are after they put another spanking on BYU this September. If you want to learn, go see the box-score from last year.

    Nope... as of today "you know a team is irrelevant" in college football when you continue to be in "discussions" while teams pass you by into the Super 4 (SEC, Big 12, PAC-12, and Big 10).

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    May 26, 2012 11:34 a.m.

    Utah's top football program is re-loading.

  • Cougarista Salt Lake City, UT
    May 26, 2012 11:21 a.m.

    Nice catch for the Cougars. It confuses even navel vets.

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    May 26, 2012 10:33 a.m.

    If he's coachable and has the physical tools, he could be great in Mendenhall's defense. He may not have the star power fans might want but at least he's providing needed depth and Coach M deemed him worthy of a scholarship. I trust the coaches.

    Most spots on the team are okay for 2013, but BYU needs to focus on recruiting more depth at cornerback and defensive end, two positions that BYU has struggled to recruit well for some reason as of late.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    May 26, 2012 10:32 a.m.

    Western Michigan must be devastated. Pretty sure this will be a lead story on Sport Center/

  • CO Ute PARKER, CO
    May 26, 2012 9:44 a.m.

    He certainly has a lot of size but don't get too carried away. According to Rivals, he doesn't have a star rating yet and had two offers. BYU and W. Michigan. Yes that is West Michigan, not the Woverines. Might turn into a good play and might not. We will see.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    May 26, 2012 9:34 a.m.

    Last year Utah brings in a 4* JC DT who decommitted from Florida and choose Utah, even after Star decided to come back to school.

    BYU beat out Western Michigan for this kid, congrats.

    To each their own.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    May 26, 2012 6:47 a.m.

    What a refrigerator!!!! Keep those grades up and pulverized some utes to the ground when you play them will ya? It will be a sweet site to see.

  • Duckhunted highland, utah
    May 26, 2012 4:24 a.m.

    Do you kittens live in the real world?? You sign nice LDS boys and thats it. Utah signs LDS boys but they go beyond that and sign top talent!! the gap gets wider!!

  • morpunkt Glendora, CA
    May 26, 2012 12:58 a.m.

    It is a well-known fact in all of Mormondom,that at BYU, any freshman student, whether an athlete or academician, is given an academic bootcamp thrashing, his or her freshman, and part of the sophomore years.
    Therefore, it is much better to get someone who's gone through the JC system first. I think he will do just fine, along with good tutoring. Good job BYU.

  • Bluesmack south jordan, UT
    May 25, 2012 11:35 p.m.

    @Naval Vet

    And somehow we find you on every BYU article! Your actions conflict with your rants. It's almost like self abuse. I definitely believe Utah is irrelevant, hence I don't follow one thing about them. I couldn't tell you who their starting quarterback is or who is in the running. I couldn't even tell you who their head coach is. Now that's how you know a team is irrelevant!

    If you truly believe what you post, then do us BYU fans a favor and show us how irrelevant BYU is by never, ever posting your comments on another BYU article. But then, we all know the truth about you Ute fans. Keep those rants coming!

  • UgottaloveMaxie Murray, UT
    May 25, 2012 11:11 p.m.

    Poor kid, now he'll never get drafted. That'll be tough.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    May 25, 2012 10:57 p.m.

    Cougar Passion, you are talking about Star Lotulelei, projected to be a top 5 pick in the 2013 NFL draft. Not top 5 rounds, one of the first five selected. He went to Bingham High, committed to BYU, couldn't qualify academically, went to Snow College, then Utah.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    May 25, 2012 10:56 p.m.

    @naval vet

    And yet he still committed to BYU.

  • IndeMak South Jordan, UT
    May 25, 2012 10:48 p.m.

    Lowering academic standards? Sounds like someone wants to be competitive.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 25, 2012 10:44 p.m.

    "BYU defensive line coach Steve Kaufusi made it out to meet with Brown earlier this month. Up to that point, he didn't know much about the Cougar program."

    The article ALSO confirmed that he's LDS. An LDS member from SoCal who doesn't know much about the program at the Y? Wow. This Indy-WACey irrelevance thing is even worse than I'd previously thought.

  • Cougar Passion Salt Lake City, UT
    May 25, 2012 9:16 p.m.

    There was another article recently about how BYU has cooled on academically questionable JuCo prospects because of great players never making it onto the field, and that's why they did not pursue the lineman at the U--can't remember his name right now, no disrespect intended; just don't have time to go search for it. Sounds like BYU has decided to start taking chances again, probably precisely because of the success experienced by the aforementioned U lineman. Hope these gambles work out!

  • CougarOnTheProwl Murray, UT
    May 25, 2012 8:38 p.m.

    6'5" 360? talk about some massive beef up front, nice to see this kid committ along with his cousin. I look forward to seeing both play at BYU in the near future.

  • The Rock Federal Way, WA
    May 25, 2012 8:20 p.m.

    At 6' 5" and 360 pounds, BYU got a man to match our mountains.
    Ditto on what sammyg said. The coaches will help their players succeed academically.

  • Unca Bon OREM, UT
    May 25, 2012 8:17 p.m.

    That is one big boy. Good luck on graduating and we hope to see you on the field soon. Go Cougars!

  • Bluesmack south jordan, UT
    May 25, 2012 8:08 p.m.

    These guys are beasts! Can't wait till they don the blue and represent the premiere program in the State.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    May 25, 2012 7:54 p.m.

    "I like that BYU represents a lot more than just football."

    ...and know you know... the rest of the story.

    Welcome guys! Work hard and it will be worth it!