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Published: Monday, May 21 2012 1:57 p.m. MDT

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Cougarista
Salt Lake City, UT

Light reading, thanks. Parker's mission decision is off limits to anyone other than family and his bishop. That includes trolls and the press, your poll notwithstanding. It is very personal decision.

JohnInSLC
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Unbelievable! The NCAA can work hard to sanction a coach for being polite, yet turn a blind eye to let Ohio State's "Tattoo Five" play in a BCS bowl game.

worf
Mcallen, TX

Norm Chow was never a good fit for BYU. It was Doug Scoville who built the passing game for the Cougs, and if not for Edwards, Norm would have been a short term coach.

DevilishUte
Tempe, AZ

worf

"Norm Chow was never a good fit for BYU.That's funny stuff."

27 years and he wasn't a good fit. Ha!

Roscoe is going to get busted by the NCAA for meaningless slogans, frumpy t-shirts, and Pop Warner-type rituals.

hedgehog
Ann Arbor, MI

Norm chow will always be a Ute at heart. When he retires at Hawaii he'll always look back on his time as a coach at Utah with fond memories.

localblue
Sandy, UT

Would everybody please lay off Jabari Parker and his personal decision on whether to serve a mission or not. It's nobody's business and shouldn't even be the subject of speculation, particularly by newspaper reporters working for a church owned publication. He's a celebrity and I understand his life is open to scrutiny. But some things are off limits and I consider this one of them.

On Norm Chow, I'm not sure why people are surprised. Many coaches prevent transfers from staying in conference. For Hawaii, BYU is one of its biggest games and rivals (although not reciprocated by BYU), so why would he allow him to transfer here. I don't have a problem with it, don't think it's petty, and could easily understand it if it were the other way around.

TheNun
Granstville, UT

I find it ironic when a certain fan base wants to keep Parker's mission decision quiet, because at this point, it doesn't appear he's leaning towards Provo. However, they are secretely hoping/praying he'll decide to serve, because it will give Rose two extra years to recruit him.

Otis Spurlock
Ogden, UT

Not every Mormon is a byu fan, and not every byu alumnus is a byu fan either.

worf
Mcallen, TX

hedgehog,

You're right. Norm is a better fit for the utes. I've known him for years, and can honestly say that the utes and chow deserve each other. Doug Scoville was thw right fit for the cougs.

I M LDS 2
Provo, UT

Jabari Parker's mission decision is nobody's business but his own - not even his family or bishop!

JParkerfan
St. George, UT

Never could figure out how LDS could claim they aren't fans of BYU. If BYU does well then that is good for the church. I certainly like other college programs, but will always be a fan of the church's University.

Hope J. Parker is smart on his college and goes somewhere that has a classy and moral coach. That pretty much narrows it down to BYU, MSU, and UNC.

Henry Drummond
San Jose, CA

This is just more fallout from Riley Nelson's transfer from Utah State and the resultant "Riley Nelson Rule" the NCAA instituted. I suspect the end result is that more institutions will discourage their athletes from serving missions because of fear the BYU will poach them.

Go Utes
Salt Lake City, UT

@ JParkerfan

Really? I am as LDS as they come and I find BYU sports an embarassment to the church. If you can't comprehend how some LDS are not Y fans, you really need to question some of the gross assumptions upon which you have been raised. The sooner BYU cancels its sports program, the better. Ricks had the right idea when it changed to BYU Idaho. I have constantly had to defend the church by noting that BYU and its fans by no means represents the vast majority of Mormons throughout the earth.

Time to get out of the bubble dude. If you are judging a church by the strength of the sports program at one of the schools that it runs, it is time to rethink some things. Somehow I have a feeling that the work of the church would go forward without BYU sports. Crazy idea, I know, but just might be true.

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

@ Go Utes

I can understand some people loving all things BYU for many reasons, including what it TRIES to be.

I can understand some people hating all things BYU for many reasons, including what it TRIES to be, but isn't.

But I think if you are CONSTANTLY apologizing for BYU's sports teams, in Salt Lake City, then one of two things is at play: either you are the one in a bubble, surrounded to an unhealthy extent by like minded haters, or you got a lot of people really puzzled by your obsession.

I too am as Mormon as they come, and yes, I have occasionally had to apologize or explain something incongruous about BYU athletics or it's fans behavior. More often than not, I have been pleased with the opportunities BYU athletics have given me to discuss more important things with individuals who noticed.

Go Utes
Salt Lake City, UT

@ Y Grad / Y Dad

You raise good points. I see that my use of the word "constantly" was distracting to you. I hope that you realized that I used that word figuratively. I assure you that I sleep and do other things each day besides apologize for frequently-observed poor sportsmanship, arrogance, pride, etc. at BYU. I did hope to convey that I have had to apologize/ defend far too often. Yes, even outside of my bubble in Salt Lake City when I have travelled. Sadly, I see these unfavorable traits in many (but certainly not all) of its graduates as well, even those not affiliated with the athletics programs. I am not sure what is going on at BYU, but the arrogance of too many and other concerns are so unbecoming a university that purports to represent the church. As stated earlier, the church would be better off discontinuing athletics at BYU, as with Ricks college. I would like to see a study as to how many converts to the church BYU athletics is responsible for. If it is truly great, I wonder why the church did not try to build the Ricks program up. Best wishes.

truecoug1
Provo, UT

@Go Utes "I am not sure what is going on at BYU, but the arrogance of too many and other concerns are so unbecoming a university that purports to represent the church."

Not sure where you're getting that attitude from, or what (if any) proof you have of this supposed 'BYU arrogance'. BYU athletics is a great missionary tool for the church. It's not the end-all be-all, and it's not meant to be. But there's no question it's been a force for good.

Curtis Brown came to play football as someone of a different faith. He left as a member of the Church because of the great examples and support shown by his teammates. Brian Logan and Juice Quezada have all talked about what a great support the church has been to them, and they aren't members.

Jimmermania was big for BYU, but bigger still for the Church was the Brandon Davies situation. There was a TON of positive PR from that great story of redemption.

Not to mention all of the firesides given by the football team.

I'd say BYU athletics does a fine job of leaving a good impression.

DC
Alexandria, VA

Go Utes - proving Maxie right once again. Pompous attitude is sickening.

Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

being privy to some inside information about Chow's time at Utah, nothing Norm Chow does would surprise me.

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

@ Go Utes

Re-reading your comments for content, I can only conclude that your real beef is not with BYU and it's arrogance and rudeness, but only with the athletic programs. Therefore, when I look at the athletic programs of BYU and other institutions, even within the state of Utah, I can only conclude one thing:

What hacks you off is their success.

DevilishUte
Tempe, AZ

Some of you are proving Go Utes' point right on this thread.

DC -

Max who?

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