Published: Saturday, May 19 2012 5:00 a.m. MDT
Nice story! I hope more people read this and take something good from it!
Amazingly interesting topic - I heard Dr. James Moody (author of Life after
Life) speak in the 1980's at BYU. He had collected many accounts of
people who'd experiences in this realm and published them, noting the
commonalities etc. He had not had an experience himself, just collected from
his medical connections. Great read.
Unreal.Now that's a comforting story.
Dr. Stephen Hawking says it is all a fantasy. Which doctor do you believe?
These experiences are real, and they are changing the face of spirituality
around the world. The scientific explanations are embarrassingly inadequate.
Has Stephen Hawking had a near-death experience? If not, who is he to judge? If
so, who is he to judge? This was someone else's experience. Only the person
who experienced it really has any idea of how real or unreal it was.
When the brain is deprived of oxygen, or when the typical electro-chemical
composition is disturbed, hallucinations, delusions, and psychotic episodes are
common.I recently visited with a woman who was "seeing"
people long dead and holding conversations with them, mixed in among
"seeing" people who are still alive but thousands of miles away - but
she saw them in different ages of their lives. She would talk to me, then to
them, then to me again.Either I must conclude that, like Sixth
Sense, I am a ghost (in which case you should all worry that I can type on this
keyboard), or that there is no reason to place any confidence in "near death
experiences" as testimony of "life after life".Stop
depriving your brains of oxygen or scrambling your grey matter like eggs in a
bowl - this will reduce the delusions. And for crying out loud, stop using
brain-damaged persons as witnesses for your faith! It really detracts from your
I believe what happened to myself and many of those are the same experiences,not
only the beautiful peace which comes during those times. In my case there were
doctors who were in control of my life and death. The first experience I was
able to talk with my brother-in-law who had been dead for over a month. The
next time I was able to watch my surgery. They had just talked me into being
resuscitated before surgery. Also two men up for surgery left and my surgery
was done about 4 hours early and I had the best leg amputee surgeon in Houston
because they left without surgery. Dr. Stephen Hawking also like to got
to strip joints. We see and hear from who we follow if be of God or Satan. We
chose who our master is by how we live our lives. Everyone has selective
hearing, not just our children. The gifts given us can be used for good or evil
and that is a choice we make each time we receive those gifts.
Beautiful story.My Grandfather had a life-after-death experience and
described it the same way.Death - just like mortal birth, the
experience of mortal death happens to ALL people exactly the same.Even Celestial, Terrestial, and Telestial Glories do not happen until after
the Final Judgement --- whenever that may be....
Nice story.We will all figure out how this works one way or the
other. We all get to die. Perhaps one of life's adventures. This story
is comforting to me and may help me live a better, fuller life. If Hawking is
right, my life will have been better and fuller. If he is wrong, he will likely
be pleasantly surprised. I don't have a lot of faith in atheists.
There are people who say that we have to prove that there is life after death.
With a challenge like that, I say, they have to prove that there isn't.What, no takers... because you can't, just like I can't prove
that there is, it is all taken by the faith that you have one way or another.
So let me believe my way and don't attack it. I don't attack the way
Santa Claus is also a comforting thought.But comfort does not equal
At least eventually we will all experience the truth of whether there is life
after death. If our consciousness ends then no one will really 'know'.
I for one don't really want an end to my consciousness and as a
scientist (Chemical Engineering processes not MetaPhysics) I do find it a little
encouraging that so many of these near-death stories are similar especially when
most had not heard of these experiences before their near-death experience. I
did notice while reading several of these books years ago that the one common
thread to all of these experiences was they no longer feared death which I also
find very encouraging. Please note that oxygen-deprivation experiments do not
reproduce any of these experiences, even with adrenaline.Death is
the last, great adventure to life! How better to experience it than by becoming
the best person we can be in this life?
A Scientist: Look, I get the whole Richard Dawkins skeptical scientific
materialism thing, but when it comes to NDEs you are obviously out of your
depth. The experiences bear no resemblance to hallucinations nor do the people
exhibit any form of mental illness or brain damage.
To "A Scientist" So how do you explain one lady dying on the dying and
coming bakc to life and observed a tennis shoe at the roof of the hospital and
later confirmed by doctors that there really was a tennis shoe on the located on
the roof of the hospital.So does lack of oxygen lead the similar
near death experiences as seeing loved ones. Wow, maybe I should "lack of
oxygen" and see my loved ones. Must be something specific to oxygen.
@A Scientist,I have seen similar phenomena in people under hypnosis.
These people were in no way brain damaged or oxygen deprived, but experienced
definite stimuli of multiple senses. They saw scenes acted out, felt emotions
such as joy and sadness, felt electric shocks, and even smelled various odors.
It is quite an easy matter for the mind to conjure things which are not really
there, under the right circumstances (circumstances that are surprisingly easy
to encounter, as I have done myself).The experiences I find
difficult to explain away, however, are those that include an uncanny
clairvoyance and knowledge of hidden things. A friend of mine, an atheist, had
one such experience in which a number of messages were conveyed which he
delivered to relatives who were surprised to receive such insights from a man
who should not have had knowledge of the sort. Oddly, this near-death experience
did not include directives to join a church, find Jesus, or anything of that
nature, and my friend remains an atheist to this day. It does leave
one wondering what it all could mean.
I find it odd that Steven Hawkins is so obsessed trying diss the idea of a
God.Could it be that he is running away from Him?Many notable
scientists of at least equal notoriety, ie, Einstein, Newton, to name a few,
believed very much in a higher power.Hawkins is not the ultimate paragon
of scientific thought.
A Scientist,Don't be so offended by this. After all, school
buses evolved from a big bolder over many years.Believe what you
If you don't understand this phenomenon the scientific approach would be to
collect data, propose a hypothesis, determine tests that would prove or disprove
this hypothesis or how to develop a theory once you have taken the fore
mentioned steps. I actually have and all the claims about hallucinations,
delusions and psychotic episodes do not relate to the topic of what these people
who have experienced. I do not expect anyone to believe anyting but I do
recommend more than casual investigation of this fascinatiting topic. I will
recommend the word of a world reknowned cardiologist or a prominet neurologist
who has actually had one of these events over some one who reads pop science
articles written by journalists with no knowledge of the subject matter. Might I
recommend starting with Dr. Pimm Van Lommel M.D. Cardiologist or Dr.Eben
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