Good for Orrin! Dan is not our man! Only people desperate to get Orrin out of
office without thought to consequence will push for these debates. Only the
same will push to put Dan in office. What sort of anti-track record do
Dan's supporters like more? That he has less than two years of public
office experience to show? That he quit before finishing the job that Davis
County sent him to do? That he had some very unpopular for freedom votes in the
beginning but saw the light before quitting? What do Dan's
supporters trust about him?
Senator Hatch,I want you to know I have appreciated your service.
For the most part you have tried to do a good job. I have even voted for you in
past elections. But now it is time for a new change in our representation to
the Senate. I believe you refuse to debate, because you know Mr Liljenquist
will do better than you. My vote will go to Mr Liljenquist in the Primary,
because I believe he is the better candidate. I'm so
disappointed you will not stand up and debate on TV, not even once. I believe
voters have a right to see and hear you head to head with your competition.
Last Utah General Legislative Session for 2011, I remember seeing bill after
bill sponsored by Sen. Dan Liljenquist pass the house. I was amazed at the
respect he and the bills had. I was amazed at how both republicans and democrats
voted for them.For example, his 2011 SB 180 Medicaid Reform bill
passed both houses with no votes against it from either party and was signed by
the Governor.With at least 7 bills, both the house and senate, both
republicans and democrats all voted for the reforms Senator Dan Liljenquist
proposed. In all, 9 of his bills were signed by the Governor.We need
that in Washington DC. These are the same areas that are bankrupting our nation.
Again, we need Dan Liljenquist in Washington DC. Yes, we have a US Senator with
35 years of seniority, but remember that in 2011, Senator Dan Liljenquist was
still in his first 4 year term. He did it without seniority.
How many eighty year olds are out there debating? People in that age group have
acquired immense knowledge of life during their lengthy lifetime. But
debating..... The synapses are no longer working fast enough for such mental
gymnastics.Orrin makes no effort to look away from the teleprompter in his
televised campaign ads.
The state legislature should pass a law that establishes a set number of times
that all those seeking political office for the State can meet to present
arguements "why they should be elected to represent the people of Utah"
so that the people can better decide whom they want to represent them. Everyone
on the ballot is invited to attend, attendance is not mandatory, however the
event will take place with or without them.On another matter, I
would like to know why Mr. Hatch did not vote on the issue of elimination of
subsidies to oil companies, and if he had what would his vote have been.
Thank you Deseret News! We really appreciate your willingness to go above and
beyond to ensure the voters of Utah have an opportunity to make an informed
voting decision. Unfortunately Senator Hatch is unwilling to give Utahn's
what they deserve and will hide in Washington like he has his entire life. I
hope Utahn's make it known this behavior is unacceptable when they go to
vote on June 26th!
I would like to call on the Deseret News and KSL to call the senators bluff -
schedule the debate! Better yet, schedule several debates! If Hatch
doesn't show then let the people ask questions of Dan. And to add
pressure, if he does not commit to the second debate then invite Howell and
advertise it as a debate between the "Presumptive" Republican candidate
against the Democrat candidate. And if he still refuses...keep the scheduled
debate times but no longer invite him. Let those willing to fight for the right
and honor of representing Utah to share their visions with us. Hatch may find
it was a bad choice to take us for granted.I challenge Deseret News
to keep the pressure on! That is what the news media is for...don't back
down and let it slide, otherwise this will simply have been a passing fancy
instead of the fervent push for news and clarity. Keep up the good work.
Thank you thank you, thank you for this wonderful editorial. I hope Utahns will
wake up to Hatch's voting record. The only way Utah can know Hatch is for a
debate to take place. He knows he will lose if he does debate.Please have the
debate anyway so that people can get to know Dan since he doesn't have the
money Hatch does to get his message out and get the name recognition he
deserves. If Hatch wasn't afraid of him you can bet he'd be having the
debates. After telling Utah no debates I don't know how anyone could ever
vote for him.
in 36 years, Hatch has never once voted to not increase the debt ceiling limit.
When Hatch was elected in '76, the national debt was less than $1
trillion; now its $16 trillion. Hatch has never cared about Utah and its
people, he cares only about himself. He is an OLD man with a monster ego. He
is also a coward for refusing a short one hour debate. He thinks we will all
vote for him because he is the incumbent. Wrong!!! Vote for Dan.
How about a series of three-way debates? Hatch, Liljenquist AND Howell?Or are Republicans as afraid of something like that as Hatch if of
debating at all?
Uh....what exactly do I as a voter get from watching a televised debate? Am I supposed to base my vote on sound bite TV and which candidate
captures the better Kelly Clarkson "moment." Not exactly defending
Orrin Hatch here and nothing against Dan Liljenquist or to leave out Scott
Howell, but I'll do my own, hopefully more in-depth research, thanks.
Bravo, Deseret News and KSL!!And to Senator Orrin Hatch and his
campaign: Bad Form! You had better hope your gamble in thumbing your nose at
Utah's voters while you hide out in Washington, D.C. pays off. Beware that
it may blow up in your face!Senator Hatch's refusal reveals an
arrogance and disregard for his constituents that, unfortunately, is consistent
with my many interactions with him on serious issues over the years. I
correspond with out congressional delegation on a regular basis, and have been
astonished at Senator Hatch's often patronizing attitude re my concerns. At
least two concerns I expressed about impending situations where his response was
a "now, now--let's not worry about that" materialized just as I had
feared. In a couple of other situations I either received no response or one
delayed by a couple of months. In contrast, Congressman Rob Bishop has twice
called me the same day as my email (and no, he doesn't know me personally)
and taken the time to pick my brain.My personal opinion: this man is
long overdue for retirement!
Orrin, Dan, what's the difference? They're both self-promoters,
that's all. What will they debate about? They agree 100 percent on
everything. If you want courage and new ideas, vote Scott Howell in November.
Orrin Hatch apparently can and will not do any debate other than the KSL radio
debate that is being moderated by the liberal Doug Wright. I guess that says
everything about Hatch's "conservative" credentials, doesn't
it? I think it's obvious that it's time to send Hatch, who panders
more to illegals than to his Utah constituents (remember his dream act, and his
attempts with Ted Kennedy to give amnesty to illegals?)
I love the above comments. This is one voter who will vote for Liljenquist if
Hatch continues to avoid the debates. I am certainly open to vote for Hatch but
we need debates.
Hatch cannot hide behind the fiction that he has already debated Liljenquist
twice. They have never debated. Hatch and Liljenquist appeared in candidate
forums with all 12 of the pre-convention Republican candidates.That
is not a "debate" in any sense of the word!Hatch insisted on
debating Jack Carlson repeatedly in 1976. Carlson was the front-runner, and
Hatch's debate performances earned him a primary election victory.Hatch insisted in debating Frank Moss repeatedly in 1976. As the incumbent,
Moss was ahead, but Hatch's performance in the debates earned him a
victory.Apparently he is afraid that the same thing will happen if
he agrees to debate Dan Liljenquist now.It might, but Hatch's
attitude reveals his cynicism, his sense of entitlement to the Senate seat, and
his disdain for the voters.There are institutes of politics at every
college in the state that would be glad to host these debates. Hinckley
Institute at the U; Romney Institute at BYU; Sutherland Institute; county
Republican committees. They should schedule debates and issue the invitations.
If the candidates don't show up, that will be revealing.No more
hiding, Mr. Hatch!g
I appreciate very much that the DesNews is willing to go up to bat for the
voters and constituents on this one. 36 years ago, an up and coming Hatch
demanded that his Republican Primary opponent debate him up and down the State
to prove his mettle. Fast-forward to today and Senator Hatch would rather hide
behind his allegedly all-important seniority. Appearing in old you-tube videos
of either of the two debates that Hatch did feel compelled to attend before the
Convention for caucus delegates is nowhere near the same as standing before a
live audience and showing his command (or lack thereof) of the current issues
the same way we will need our Senator to be able to do in much more hostile
environs in Washington, DC. That said, I hope Dan Liljenquist starts holding
"debates" anyways and if Hatch fails to show up then it's
Hatch's loss. I already know of one venue that Senator Hatch committed to
in Spanish Fork ("Thursday Night Live") where he suddenly backed out
upon hearing that Liljenquist was invited. I'm starting to hope Dan makes
lemonade out of these lemons.
Fantastic Piece by Deseret News! I hope they decide to run it on tomorrow's
front page! I would highly encourage Deseret News to air a Prime Time Debate
with or without Senator Hatch and/or rerun the two previous debates on KSL Prime
Time, since Hatch keeps referring to them as enough.Again, Kudos to
Deseret News for showing that 36-years in the Senate has helped Hatch form bad
habits of transperancy.This once undecided voter is now voting for
Dan Liljenquist due to Hatch's refusal to debate.
I, like the Deseret News, am extremely disappointed in the cynicism Orrin Hatch
is displaying by refusing to debate. The last time Hatch had a primary, he
called for 8 prime time debates all over the state. Clearly the editorial board
is correct in saying Hatch has picked up some bad habits after 36 years in
Washington DC. Maybe it's time to come home.
Bravo, bravo, bravo Deseret News/KSL! Fantastic editorial! I suppose a good
follow-up question might be…if Hatch continues to decline, will you all
sponsor a 1 hour prime-time special on the election anyway and allow concerned
citizens on both sides of this election equal time to air their concerns in true
grass roots fashion? After all, this is really all about us, the citizens of
this state, not the candidates, isn't it? Thanks again!
I think it is pretty clear that Hatch is about Hatch and really nothing more.
If you want to see how busy Senator Hatch is in June, go to his web site and
look at his calendar. The entire month of June is blank.Just whom
is he trying to fool? A Senator with as much clout at he claims to have could
certainly find a way to add time to debate a well qualified challenger.It's beginning to look like Senator Hatch is lying about his clout and
about his schedule.I wonder why that is?
Mike Richards is right. Hold a one-hour prime-time TV debate with or without
Hatch. If he is represented by an empty chair that is his problem
Hatch's refusal to go before the people and personally make his case
without his handlers prompting him is the best reason to fire him. If he is the "only" Senator in Washington who can save Utah from all
the perils that he has described, he should be willing to stand up in prime time
before the people and make his case.He knows that he has been
feeding us a bunch of lies about his "worth". He has the same
"worth" as any other Senator. He has not "saved" us in the 36
years that he has been our Senator. It is highly unlikely that he will save us
in the next six years.My opinion of Mr. Hatch is at an all-time low.
I put him in the same group with Mr. Obama, someone who promises everything and
delivers nothing. If he refuses to attend a prime time debate, hold
the debate without him. A debate is not a "command performance". It is
an opportunity. If Hatch doesn't want that opportunity, then let the
people see an empty podium. It would certainly be an example of his empty
The news that should be printed on the front page of every newspaper in Utah is
that Senator Hatch refuses to debate Dan Liljenquist. Let the readers know that
Senator Hatch is afraid to debate. Let the readers know that Senator Hatch
considers himself inferior to Dan Liljenquist. Any Senator who had
anything to offer would jump at the chance to debate, to show his expertise, to
beat his own drum. It is obvious that Senator Hatch has nothing to
offer, that he knows that he has nothing to offer and that he wants to hide the
fact that he has nothing to offer.Let him have it his way. Let the
media report the truth about Senator Hatch. Make it front page headlines:
"Hatch Refuses to Debate Dan Liljenquist!" When President Obama, with
his busy schedule, can find time to fly anywhere in America to campaign, Senator
Hatch can find one evening in early June to face the public.
Great editorial. Congrats to the Deseret News and KSL for their
fair-mindedness. Now that the senate race has advanced to a primary, voters
across the state need to be given a clear view of both Republican candidates,
Hatch and Liljenquist, in the form of televised debates, so they can make an
informed decision. Otherwise many voters may depend only on sound bites and
slick mailers, and that's a lousy way to choose an important public
servant.Sen. Hatch apparently doesn't want to be directly
accountable to the people of Utah. When a politician behaves that way, I think
it's time to vote for someone else.
Thank you KSL and Deseret News for attempting to educate Utahns concerning the
current Utah Senate race. Unfortunately, our "senior" Senator is
reluctant to accommodate the electorate and inform us what he plans to do
differently this next term. WHY??? When someone avoids an opportunity to
explain positions and talking points, I believe, he is in hiding! To me,
it's like an accused person at trial taking the 5th amendment and refusing
to testify. The excuse, "The Senator is too busy with Senatorial duties to
participate in debates", is LAME at best! Tell me another one!Dan Liljenquist welcomes debates. He desires Utahns to know of his vision,
his plans for the future, and what he will do for Utah in the US Senate. Where
or where is Senator Hatch??? Is his premise, "keep the electorate ignorant,
they'll vote for me out of habit." Well, it's NOT going to work
in this election! Utahns want to hear from our incumbent Senator. He wants a
7th unprecedented term in office, let's hear what he has to say,. . . to
offer. You can't maintain a veil of secrecy and expect to be re-elected.
Where are you, Senator???