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Obama plunges into campaign, tears into Romney


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  • kargirl Sacramento, CA
    May 8, 2012 1:43 p.m.

    ute alumni, I assume your division of voters makes it very easy for you to divide the people you know or meet into the two groups you mention so you can simplify your decision as to who your friends might be, and whittle down which people you deal with. And that must simplify your life. You make judgments in advance, and don't have to worry about "liberals". Good. And the people you like will, of course, never ask anything of you since they take care of themselves, so you are not bothered. Hope you never have a need for help. And by the way, don't get your medicare, social security, or workman's comp, or unemployment comp, should you ever need them, or when you are old enough--you wouldn't want anyone to say you took anything from the government, right? Gotta watch those things. Ditto any military benefits you may be enrtitled to, I know you wouldn't want that. Someone might think you will vote for Obama...like me!

  • kargirl Sacramento, CA
    May 8, 2012 1:31 p.m.

    We didn't get to this point in two or three or four years. We won't get out of it that quickly, either. Chances are, it will take longer than two Obama terms, it would take longer than two perfect terms of a perfect president and perfect Congress with no emergencies. The countries in Europe who have thought they could recover with an austerity program found out it didn't work, and the people voted out their leaders. I think we should pay attention. C'mon, now, can't we get over ourselves here for just a moment or two?

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    May 8, 2012 8:04 a.m.

    there are two types of voters:
    liberals that want to live in a nanny state and be on the government dole. obamaites
    conservatives that want freedom to succeed or fail and minimal government and want to take care of themselves. romneyites.
    i just wish liberals would say that they want others to take care of them and really don't want to exercise their own abilities, maybe they don't have any.
    o to go in 2013. the country can't stand four more years of this community organizer....super credentials!

  • Filo Doughboy Bakersfield, CA
    May 7, 2012 11:16 a.m.

    Just curious. What's your personal ratio of time spent immersed in the political "tellie" (TV) vs. God's Word?

    That could account for all the wild disappointment in either's side failure to deliver on the H&C mantra.

    Hope is in Christ who will change your DNA, your family membership and your world.

  • cval Hyde Park, UT
    May 7, 2012 10:16 a.m.

    The smear job advertisement currently running by the Obama campaign will backfire.

    It will turn out to have been a big favor provided to Mitt by Obama. It really makes Obama sound desperate, lacks civility, and is completely unstatesmanlike and beneath the office of President of the United States.

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    May 7, 2012 7:45 a.m.

    Sorry Gramajane, for your troubles..it's really hard when things go south later in life. This happened to my inlaws and it was hard.

    If your troubles are because of a business bankruptcy I'll bet (obviously I don't know you) your business went into bankruptcy because of a lack of customers "low demand". Low demand is the product of the '08 mealt down..not a result of Obamas policies, the result of republican policies. In addition in the midst of slow economic recovery Ireland, Spain etc. have done exactly what Romney is advocating America should do and it has been disasterous for demand. Why would you possibly be in favor of a candidate who's advocating policies that are making things worse around the globe? Maybe we're not growing fast but we haven't double dipped.

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    May 6, 2012 6:05 p.m.

    Peter proclaimed "Romney knows how to create jobs."

    And how exactly will he create jobs? By more tax cuts for the rich - the supposed "job creators"? We saw the result of that economic theory in the 8 years of George W Bush. Do we really want to slide down that mess again?

    Or does Romney have a secret other method for creating jobs? A secret that we will just have to trust as we head to the voting booth, because he certainly couldn't help the country now by letting out the secret too early...

  • peter Alpine, UT
    May 6, 2012 11:19 a.m.

    Bush and Obama both hurt America's prosperity by growing government. Big government is one of America's obstacles to freedom and prosperity, something our Founders tried to prevent ever happening. Government's rightful role includes protecting the rights, liberties and lives of the individual States and its people. Its purpose should never extend to taking care of us by doing for us what we can and should do for ourselves. Whenever governmenmt tries to create a dole society, it becomes nothing but a big parasite, feeding off its host, the working class, eventually sucking the life right out of itself, ultimately becoming a lifeless entity. People are basically good. They can and will take care of their own needs without the need for government intervention. But, we'll always have two classes of people with two opposing mind sets, those who think their basic needs should be taken care of by government programs and handouts, and those who desire to be independent, productive, and free from excessive government interventions.
    Romney knows how to create jobs. Now we need to see if he can get government out of the way of job growth.

  • Gramajane OAKLEY, ID
    May 6, 2012 7:58 a.m.

    We had to cash out our retirement funds in trying to recover from forced business bankruptcy and now we live in an old 5th wheel while waiting to see if bank forecloses on family home we raised our five kids in then did foster care in for 10 years with my hubby still trying to make money with our social security payments not enough to live on. --- I hope our next president is a chane for the better! Go Mitt! His record gives me hope. :)

  • Furry1993 Clearfield, UT
    May 5, 2012 10:35 p.m.

    "President Obama told the truth about Romney" is what the headline to this story should have said.

  • md Cache, UT
    May 5, 2012 10:25 p.m.

    I am happy for you. I would say that you are in the minority in this country. I hope you continue to prosper.
    As for the rest of us, I hope Obama doesn't get another chance to socialize our country further.

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    May 5, 2012 8:56 p.m.

    md wonders "Are any of you better off than you were when he took office?!"

    Friends who were laid off have found jobs equal to, or better than, the jobs they lost.
    My company is hiring new employees for the first time in a long time.
    My neighbors put their house on the market, and it sold in the first week.
    Gas prices are still lower than the last summer of GW Bush.
    My only complaint is that interest earned on savings is ridiculously low, but that also means that I can refinance my mortgage again and cut more years off the term.

  • wazzup Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 5, 2012 8:44 p.m.

    Let me see if I understand. Ohbama is accusing Mitt of cutting Medicare when his own healthcare bill cuts $500B from Medicare.

    How daring is that? Doesn't he realize his cuts are actually documented, Mitt's suggestion is that it doesn't grow as fast. Only in the federal government does an increase in spending mean a cut in spending.

  • 1aggie SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    May 5, 2012 8:40 p.m.

    What part of the Dow going from under 8,000 to over 13,000 don't you understand? Virtually anybody with a 401k plan, 457 plan, or any other investments is way better off now. In addition, he has kept us safe from terrorist attacks and eliminated al qaeda as a threat. We are all better off for that.

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    May 5, 2012 8:15 p.m.

    Barack Obama is our new 'long national nightmare.' It's not just the fact that he is thin-skinned and petty. It's that his (and the whole Democrat Party's) philosophy is wrong. The country needs to reject the premise that the government is here to take care of people.

    Corporations aren't people? Well, Barack, neither are governments!

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    May 5, 2012 7:06 p.m.

    It seems as though each person in this state has made up their mind already.

    Personally I would love to see them debate the budget perhaps against a professor of economics. The budget is beyond both of them, it is like hiring a doctor to construct a house, it won't work yet neither of them will tell us they do not know how to fix things.

    Bob Bennett was the only one with integrity who said the GOP did not know how to create jobs, he said if they did they would have created them. At that time Mitt Romney was telling us if he was president he would create jobs. He must have been practicing as he was pathetic at being able to create them while he was governor.

    These two are arguing over whether millionaire Mitts taxes should be kept low or not and asking us to elect them based upon our attitude of things like that. The budget screams to have a solution.

    Both these gentlemen come up short, and are not capable to handle the finances, and NEITHER of them have a plan to fix what is broken.

  • md Cache, UT
    May 5, 2012 7:00 p.m.

    Oh brother. We can't handle four more years of this man. He makes Carter look like Einstein. Are any of you better off than you were when he took office?!

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    May 5, 2012 6:54 p.m.

    One thing to consider, when pushing for "austerity" cuts this puts people out of work. Public sector employees pay taxes, shop and do other things like private sector employees to "stimulate" the economy. Relying too much on austerity cuts and eliminating certain departments of government as advocated by say tea party Republicans will have unintended, perhaps extremely negative, consequences on the economy if fully implemented. Again, the loss of public sector employees is a problem when there isn't enough happening in the private sector to absorb these job losses...

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 5, 2012 6:42 p.m.

    Must be "Groundhog Day" again.

    I swear I have been seeing that headline every day for weeks now.

    I guess we really need to pay attention to Obama's campaign claims"

    Obama killed Bin Laden,
    Now he wants to finish killing the economy.

  • Oatmeal Woods Cross, UT
    May 5, 2012 6:33 p.m.

    "...reading only the AP will leave you dull and uninformed." And you probably counter that with Fox News and a little Hannity/Limbaugh? Heaven help us!

  • 1aggie SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    May 5, 2012 6:33 p.m.

    Gee MOMS, could you make a more irrelevant, meaningless (not to mention inaccurate) comment? But while we're off-subject, perhaps you ban tell us what fraction of Ford Field Romney filled when he spoke there (in case Faux News didn't say, it was less than 2%).

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    May 5, 2012 6:27 p.m.

    Data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics showed 111,634,000 Americans employed in the private-sector at the start of George W. Bush's first term, in January 2001. Eight years later, in January 2009, there were 110,981,000 Americans employed in the private-sector. So the United States lost 653,000 private-sector jobs on Bush's watch.

    In Bush's eight years in office, we added 1,741,000 public sector jobs. Since Obama took office, we've lost 608,000 public sector jobs.

  • MOMS Salt Lake City, UT
    May 5, 2012 5:31 p.m.

    If you read only the AP you would not know that the auditorium was about 1/3 full. Whatever you think about politics, reading only the AP will leave you dull and uninformed.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    May 5, 2012 5:01 p.m.

    As of April, there are now more private sector jobs in the United States than there were in January 2009, when President Obama took office. You read that right. We have now replaced all of the private sector jobs lost while Obama has been president. And that was no mean feat, given that over the course of 2009, the private sector shed about 4.2 million jobs.

    The news is not nearly so good when it comes to the public sector, where there are currently 607,000 fewer people working than there were when President Obama took office.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    May 5, 2012 4:53 p.m.

    "Austerity (as Europe is practicing and as the Republicans are pushing) will increase debt as a percentage of GDP."

    In fact, if you take a look at what Austerity has done in Spain, it has driven the unemployment rate to nearly 25%. There is a balance, which I have no clue where that is, where austerity begins to hurt the economy. Regardless, we need to balance the budget, it is a valid issue and deserves high very serious debate and action.

    But anyone who says the economy is worse than when Obama took office is drinking some powerful stuff. Is it where it needs to be - no way. Can it do better - absolutely. It is up to Romney to prove that he can 1) balance the budget, and 2) grow the economy. He has yet put forward any serious detail on either, other than don't vote for the other guy.

    Pathetic election season so far.

  • 1aggie SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    May 5, 2012 4:21 p.m.

    It IS better Riverton. The Dow was below 7,900 when Obama took office. It is now over 13,000. What do stock prices represent? They represent investors expectations regarding the future expected performance of companies. Things have turned around dramatically since the last incompetent administration exited.

    Fact is, the Republicans are pushing the "National Debt" as an issue because it's all they've got. No matter that their plans would just make it increase. Growing the economy is what will put people back to work and reduce debt as a percentage of GDP (the statistic that matters). And Obama has been doing that. Austerity (as Europe is practicing and as the Republicans are pushing) will increase debt as a percentage of GDP.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    May 5, 2012 3:59 p.m.

    @Riverton Cougar
    "It's still hope and change because hope and change for the better have yet to be accomplished."

    Well it takes a while to get things done when hope and change have to deal with the Republicans' obstruct and deny.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    May 5, 2012 3:07 p.m.

    "When people ask you what this election is about, you tell them it is still about hope. You tell them it is still about change," Obama said.

    It's still hope and change because hope and change for the better have yet to be accomplished. If we now had hope and change for the better, then why change a good thing? Because it's NOT better! Obama is basically admitting with his many comments that he has failed. Goodbye, Obama, and please take your hope and change with you. If you love European politics so much, please move there and leave the U.S. as a positive alternate to socialism!