Quantcast

Comments about ‘BYU's McKay Jacobson eager for shot with the Philadelphia Eagles’

Return to article »

Published: Tuesday, May 1 2012 10:52 a.m. MDT

Comments
  • Oldest first
  • Newest first
  • Most recommended
Jeff29
Cedar City, UT

@crowntown1

So that's the only stat that matters? So if BYU wins this fall, you will concede that BYU is the superior program for the next year?

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

crowntown1

@ Y DAD Y GRAD

"You can point out every meaningless fact ranking or stat from the last 20 years. But the only fact that matters is you got beat down at home this past season from your instate rivals. That's it! no sugar coating that . . no excuses you got beat and so Utah fans can talk the talk."

And I think that you just illustrated that the only fact that matters to U is an admitedly impressive thumping of the team U just can't get over.

As for BYU, there were several defining moments last season, or if you prefer, "facts that matter." By and large, they point to a decent, not great season. Decent! Decent!! How many schools can you think of that would think being ranked in the top 25 was more than "decent."

Apparently not U, though. The only fact that matters is you beat the team you supposidly no longer care about. And I think therein lies the difference - Utah had an otherwise pretty mediocre season, but U are thrilled because of one triumph. BYU had an otherwise pretty good season, but we are still irritated by one loss.

Y's little brother
The Hill, UT

crowntown1

So by your own "no sugar-coating it" rational:

The only fact that matters is U couldn't even win a pathetically weak PAC 12 South because U got beat down at home by one of the worst teams in the country and Utah's supposedly "new rival".

The Buffs DOMINATED the Utes from the start, leading at halftime, 10-0, with a 254-39 total-yardage advantage and an 11 1/2-minute edge in time of possession. Unfortunately for U, Utah's FG kicker, who only a few weeks earlier had saved Utah's bacon in the snow at hapless WSU, failed miserably against Colorado.

For the 2nd time in Kyle's brief 7-year head coaching career at Utah, K-Whit lost to a 10-loss team. That's as many losses to 10-loss teams as BYU has had IN THEIR ENTIRE HISTORY!

After BYU's early September meltdown, BYU finished the season 9-1, with a bowl win over #35 Tulsa.

After BYU's gift, Utah finished the season 6-4, with that ugly loss to #107 Colorado, and a near bowl loss to #56 Georgia Tech.

8th place - get used to it!

Utah-Hawaii Alum
Dallas, TX

Everyone respects BYU.......America's team folks!

HCB63
Orem, UT

Y Grad/Y Dad,

The point of preparing players for the jump to the NFL is so the whole team is stronger, faster, hungrier and leaner. All games are won decisively, players play with greater poise and focus, and the quality of wins increases dramatically. Following this approach would help the Y in better recruiting, greater team cohesivness, and allow them to grow into a national powerhouse in football that every team, in every conference respects. How is beating the likes of Idaho State and San Jose State a positive? BYU wants to be playing the big boys every week. Until the team develops into an NFL draft powerhouse (think Alabama, Michigan, etc), their dreams of consistent national media and football respect will only ever be a pipe dream with occasional glimpses of greatness.

MLH
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Y daddy

You just keep pumping your chest with that 25/26 ranking and 10 wins. And most of all that Idaho State Championship that you won. The two schedules are not even close and while the Colorado loss hurt everyone that wanted the Utes to go on, that Colorado team was still a PAC-12 team coming from the BIG-12 something you just have no clue of comprehending. Beat that chest all you want have another nice November and we will see you on the 22nd. Expect to leave early again your team is not even close to being the calliber of the team Utah is.

And by the way, this article is about MJ#6, good luck buddy, I as a Ute fan always enjoyed watching you play. Hope I see you once again on TV.

MLH
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

again at ydaddy

I just think that if I go to the U hall of fame, or any other, I won't see a trophy or a plaque for how many players got drafted.

Yes you will, The list would blow you away. BYU has had many great NFL players and by you making statements like the ones you make about Utah's Hall of Fame it just cheapens the accomplishments of BYU's ellite NFL players. Have you ever heard of Larry Wilson, basically invented the Safety Blitz-UTAH. Marv Fleming and his two Super Bowl rings with Green Bay-UTAH. Alex Smith #1 draft pick first choice of the 49ers-Utah. Daddy if you see our Hall of Fame you will see NFL Championship players, NBA Champions and first round draft picks, World Series Rings, along with others who have contributed to the community and don't forget about that Noble Peace Prize. Don't cheapen your guys they were and are great players which I had the privilage to see play.

Again good luck McKay.

Papa Smurf UTE
Herriman, UT

Too smart for nothing,

Actually, Colorado was invited, then Scot talked to Chris Hill about joining, then they decided to go gang busters, and invite some members of the Big 12, which they KNEW was a long shot, and that some of those teams would stay in the Big 12 or go to the SEC. So according to people in the know, that actually were in the rooms discussing these things, the UTES were in the whole time. No matter if it was the Pac 12 or Pac 16. I know it hurts that the Big 12 denied you, then the Big East denied you, and then made it seem better by saying you actually told them no. Only to try to go back and talk to the Big 12 again, and they say no. They want Notre Dame. The no Sunday thing is hurting the Y. While I am a member, the Sunday play might be the end of the Y getting into a big conference. I really do hope they work something out. The rivalry would be that much more intense if the Y was in the Big 12 and the UTES in the PAc 12.

Papa Smurf UTE
Herriman, UT

Phoenix,

It is easy to accomplish more with less when you play LESS every single game outside of Sept, and then TCU in October. Utah St would have had the exact same record as you had they played that schedule. Maybe even 1 more win against Texas. SUU might have as well had the same record. It is always nice to have 2 byes in Nov to get ready for those 8:30 mountain time games against Idaho and New Mexico St. Any half whit team with that much rest in Nov, getting ready to play those really tough games would be able to accomplish more with less.

Papa Smurf UTE
Herriman, UT

Phoenix,

It is easy to accomplish more with less when you play LESS every single game outside of Sept, and then TCU in October. Utah St would have had the exact same record as you had they played that schedule. Maybe even 1 more win against Texas. SUU might have as well had the same record. It is always nice to have 2 byes in Nov to get ready for those 8:30 mountain time games against Idaho and New Mexico St. Any half whit team with that much rest in Nov, getting ready to play those really tough games would be able to accomplish more with less.

4601
Salt Lake City, UT

HHog ended his troll comments with "Nuff said." The rest of the world can only hope.

Uteanymous
Salt Lake City, Utah

papaute

"Actually, Colorado was invited, then Scot talked to Chris Hill about joining, then they decided to go gang busters, and invite some members of the Big 12,..."

You're soooo delusional with your revisionist history.

Colorado was invited AFTER the Big 12 South merger was already nearly a done deal. Why? Because the PAC 12 religious bigots objected to including Baylor, so Colorado was hastily invited to shut Baylor out of the picture, leaving spots only for Texas, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State -- a nice even 16-team league. Then Texas A&M developed Long Horn envy and started exploring opportunities to join the SEC and the PAC 12/Big 12 South merger fell apart. Scott then went to his backup plan, inviting the 2nd best team from Utah, picking up the smaller share of the Utah market and the inferior athletic program, but sticking to the directive not to invite a religiously affiliated school.

anti BCS
Anaheim, CA

According to the Ute trolls, Kansas(2-10), should have been the 2011 national champions, afterall, the Jayhawks had the #1 SOS...

oh, wait a minute, you mean you have to actually beat the teams on your schedule for a stronger SOS to mean anything?

bottom line:

BYU(10-3) #90 SOS, #25 Coaches, #26 AP, #34 Sagarin
Utah(8-5) #49 SOS, no votes Coaches/AP, #39 Sagarin

but here's the real kicker that Utah fans always conveniently ignore:

ratings aren't just based on who you beat, they're also based on who you LOSE to

BYU losses: #17 Texas, #20 TCU, #39 Utah
Utah losses: #12 USC, #38 California, #41 ASU, #44 Washington, #107 Colorado

Bronco NEVER lost to a MWC bottom dweller - CSU, Wyoming, UNM, or UNLV
Kyle lost to ALL of them, and has carried that dubious "distinction" to the PAC 12 - Colorado

If U want to finish in the Top 25, STOP losing to bad teams!

btw, #91 Kansas did beat #47 Northern Illinois, which was ranked higher than EVERY team Utah beat, except BYU.

Marked it Down
Park City, UT

Papasmurf

"It is easy to accomplish more with less when you play LESS every single game outside of Sept, and then TCU in October. Utah St would have had the exact same record as you had they played that schedule."

Utah fans love speculating about what coulda/woulda/shoulda happened, and then using their biased speculation to try to disprove something that actually did happen.

BYU fans can play that game too.

Based on #34 BYU beating #35 Tulsa, only losing to #17 Texas by a single point on the road, and playing UTAH's schedule, BYU would have finished 11-3, would have won the PAC 12 South with an 8-1 conference record (tied with Oregon and Stanford for 1st in the PAC 12), and would have played in the first PAC 12 championship game:

#95 Montana State - win
at #12 Southern Cal - loss
#39 Utah - loss (non-conference)
#44 Washington - win
#41 Arizona State - win
at #69 Pittsburgh - win
at #38 California - win
#87 Oregon State - win
at #64 Arizona - win
#66 UCLA - win
at #83 Washington State - win
#107 Colorado - win
#5 Oregon - loss
#56 Georgia Tech - win

Utah-Hawaii Alum
Dallas, TX

@ uteanymous, there were a lot of reasons why the PAC-10 didn't give BYU the time of day. The same reasons why the Big-12 has never returned one frantic call from Tom Holmoe. Folks don't care for BYU very much. Enjoy the WAC......where you belong!

Marked it Down
Park City, UT

Utah-Hawaii Alum

There are lots of bigotted people out there. Where's your proof that Tom Holmoe has been making "frantic" phone calls that have gone unanswered by the Big 12? You're hillarious with your clueless prognostications and fabrications.

btw, the WAC is all but dead, so you're going to have to come up with something else for your weak smack.

btw2, 25% of the 120 D1-A teams have played in the WAC at some point during the 50-year history of the WAC, including 25% of the current PAC 12.

You're just jealous that the Utes were only able to win TWO championships in their FOUR DECADES in the conference.

Pathetic!

Enjoy being a bottom-dweller in the Pathetic 12.

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

HCB63

So if I remember, and as you can tell, I really don't care about the NFL other than watching former cougs to see if they can do well at the next level, I think Utah State had more players drafted this year than Utah or BYU. Point? Inconclusive.

The year BYU beat Oklahoma, by the way, a team which many Utah fans have since spent incredible energy decrying as NOT a good football team, Oklahoma had SEVEN players drafted. What did BYU have, one? I seem to recall that the year Utah had six or seven players drafted, BYU beat U. Point? Inconclusive.

That a consistently good team will have a consistently decent number of players drafted is not subject to debate. But the two facts travel in tandem; one is not universally dependent on the other.

MLH

Such venom! I'll just say this: Colorado has been pathetic no matter WHICH conference they play in and no matter who they play. And nothing I said cheapens the players who have been good enough to move on and up. On the contrary, I think it cheapens them to try to account their accomplishment for something it isn't.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Marked it Down:

"You're just jealous that the Utes were only able to win TWO championships in their FOUR DECADES in the conference."

Jealous? Nope. We're in the Pac-12; aka the first choice of conferences the cougars have been desperately posturing and pleading to get into. You're in the crumbling WAC. I'm afraid the jealousy is on the 10 side of last season's 54-10 drubbing. You couldn't get into the your first choice -- the Pac-10, and you couldn't get into your second choice -- the Big 12. No relevant AQ conferences wanted you.

All those WAC championships, and nobody was impressed. Two BCS bowls for the Utes, and the Pac-10 took immediate notice. So you're teeming with envy. Ute-envy that is! Own it.

Proud Ute
,

Good luck to the young man! He's going to one of my all time favorite teams.

phoenix
Gilbert, AZ

Navel Vet

There won't be ANY relevant AQ conferences after 2013 so you're just going to have to accept reality:

4 PAC wins - 5 PAC losses - 1 BYU loss - 1 B10 loss + 1 NoColo win = 5 wins - 7 losses = NO BOWL for U

THAT's the ONLY reason Utah is running away from BYU to play a 2nd NoColo!

U just aren't competitive in the PAC and U know it.

to comment

DeseretNews.com encourages a civil dialogue among its readers. We welcome your thoughtful comments.
About comments