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Published: Wednesday, April 25 2012 1:31 p.m. MDT

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Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Thomas is an "athlete" and Fredette is not.

We all said before he got drafted that he couldnt compete because he was too slow an unathletic.

And we were right.

Cougar Passion
Salt Lake City, UT

I hope Jabari Parker has taken notice of that trophy.

With regard to Chris B: I know a Chris B who is very similar in to you in that he has been known to lose all sense of reason in his pursuit to say things against BYU; so much so that I really started to wonder if you and he were the same person. But, after careful consideration, I don't think so. Not only does the Chris B I know actually try to be intelligent despite his irrational bias against BYU, he has also--again, being a reasonably intelligent person--shown a noticeable change in recent months to realize he can let it go and be a bigger person than he has been. You can do that too. It's really OK. No one will hold it against you.

hedgehog
Ann Arbor, MI

As usually, Dick seems to have every excuse for Y the jimmer is failing in the NBA. At what point will he question if the jimer has made the most of his opportunities.

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, UT

"We all said before he got drafted that he couldnt compete because he was too slow an unathletic.

And we were right."

And everyone was right about Alex Smith. Wait a minute... You mean to tell me that people actually get better after their rookie year? Preposterous!

Jimmer has had some good performances in the NBA. Don't call it quits just yet. Of course, Ute fans would call Micheal Jordan "too slow and unathletic" if he were a BYU grad.

Louisiana Cougar
Pineville, LA

It's always humorous to see the same old posters slam everything positive about BYU -- whether past, present, or future players, the school, the coach, the sponsoring institution, and on and on.

No one claimed that Jimmer Fredette was the world's quickest, fastest, or best anything. He did capture the nation's attention for a noteworthy season. . . and that's what the award is about.

My sympathies go out to those POF's who persist in making themselves look foolish by their self-serving attempts to besmear others!

IndianaCoug
Bloomington, IN

I don't quite understand the talk of "Jimmer failing in the NBA." In limited minutes (18.5) he is averaging 7.5 points, which is 13th among rookies. He's made progress in the NBA, cutting down the number of turnovers and stepping up his defense (the biggest criticisms of his college game). True, his shooting percentage is way down from what he experienced in college (still higher than Rick Rubio) but everyone expected that--he's now challenged from "Jimmer range" by some of the NBA's best defenders.
Sorry, but the truth to all the haters and trolls out there--Jimmer is still pretty good. He's experiencing growing pains but he is still playing in the NBA (not overseas like most of you predicted) and looks to have a long career in basketball.
AND the future is bright for BYU basketball. There is simply no argument, over the last five years BYU has been very good and Utah has been very bad. This trend does not appear to be changing any time soon (even if you did thump us in a different sport). Go Cougs!

Christy B
Salt Lake City, Utah

Naismith Award Winners
BYU - 2
Utah - 1

Heisman Trophy Winners
BYU - 1
Utah - 0

As always, when you're talking the creme-de-la-creme of COLLEGE athletes, BYU is clearly superior.

phantomblade
Salt Lake City, Utah

Chris B

"We all said before he got drafted that he couldnt compete because he was too slow an unathletic."

No, what YOU said was:

Chris B - 11:54 a.m. May 25, 2011
"In his 2 years in the NBA he'll have an average line of 6 minutes, 2.2 points per game, 1 assist, 2 turnovers."

Actual stats from Jimmer's first year in the NBA, with no summer league, no fall camp, only two pre-season games, and a mid-season head coaching change:

18.5 minutes, 7.5 points per game, 1.8 assists, 1.1 turnovers

More than TRIPLE what you predicted in minutes and points, double in assists, and half in turnovers, but almost IDENTICAL to Jimmer's Freshman year at BYU:

18.5 minutes, 7.0 points per game, 1.7 assists, 1.2 turnovers

Get over your BYU-hating fantasies and just accept reality, that despite your whiney, misguided predictions of failure, Jimmer will eventually be a very good player in the NBA.

just-a-fan
Bountiful, UT

Jimmer is not an athlete? He was the player of the year in hoops and in high school was offered scholarships by the likes of Penn State to play football. What kind of moron would not call this kid an athlete?

Solomon Levi
Alpine, UT

"Jimmer is not an athlete? He was the player of the year in hoops and in high school was offered scholarships by the likes of Penn State to play football. What kind of moron would not call this kid an athlete?"

See first post on this article.

Teddy Bear
Las Vegas, NV

Phantom blade, well said.

I really don't expect jimmer to even have a mike bibby type of career, but bibby has lasted 12 plus years. Maybe jimmer can do the same, maybe not, but in any event, he made it to the big time, played well on occasion, and will improve, and has made a ton of money in the meantime. Good for him.

CA. reader
Rocklin, CA

As a Nor Cal resident and BYU fan I was sad to see Jimmer drafted by the Kings. There are several head cases on the team that resent any kind of notoriety from anyone they view as an outsider. They drove off a young man from Israel, who, like Jimmer, was a very team-oriented player. While they are talented players, none of them play defense or seem to have a clue or any inclination to do so. They need a coach with a strong personality to reel these guys in and teach them how to play the game the right way. Hopefully they will trade him to a team that understands team play.

Utah-Hawaii Alum
Dallas, TX

Fredette will be playing with Adam Morrison in eastern Europe in another year or so. He is not NBA material in any way, shape or form............way too slow and cannot play any D whatsoever.

Snack PAC
Olympus Cove, Utah

Utah-Hawaii Alum

Poor jealous troll!

PAC man
Anaheim, CA

Jimmer just needs to find a team that runs an offense that can exploit Jimmer's unique skill set. The one-on-one, playground style "offense" that Sacramento runs completely wastes the value of having a deadly three-point shooter with Jimmer's range.

Wayne Rout
El Paso, TX

It is great that Coach Rose understands that talent wins and he wants more, better players. I think he understands that he can't win big games with walk-on talent. Some coaches might have drivin Jimmer out of the team. Coach Rose used him to get better.

JoeCoug
OREM, UT

IMHO, Jimmer Fredette became one of the classiest NBA players as soon as he was drafted. He's got a great work ethic, he's humble and confident, he's as positive as he can be with teammates who can be self-absorbed, and he recognizes that Isaiah Thomas is a better player. He is listening to a coach who's trying, and has the respect of ownership and media. He will continue to work hard and have a place in the league for as long as he wants.

hedgehog
Ann Arbor, MI

"Jimmer just needs to find a team that runs an offense that can exploit Jimmer's unique skill set" PACman

So what you're praying for is for some NBA team to build around the "talents" of the jimer? LOL! Fans better learn quick that the jimer will need to adapt to what is offerd him... or start looking at rentals in Poland.

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