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Published: Monday, April 23 2012 11:00 p.m. MDT

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Herriman, UT

Inexcusable. Any time a program sees significant changes (like firing a coach) it is petty for the next guy to try and lock players into his program. Chow didn't recruit this kid. I actually thought the U of U basketball program showed a ton of class by realizing many kids recruited by the last coach wouldn't want to stay after his firing, so they allowed the transfers. Some BYU fans freaked about Olsen, but they were wrong for the same reasons - Olsen was a Crowton recruit, and he got canned, so Olsen had every right to transfer.

Denver, Colorado

And Chow wanted to be our latex salesman!

Frisco, tx

What's with sour grapes Chowster?! A guy wants to transfer and they "block it" ? Sounds like a big chip on a cold Norman . - Ed

Salt Lake City, UT

Thanks Norm Chow, you've relieved my questions about why you were not considered for BYU's head coaching job. The real you shows through and explains why you were never a head coach until Hawai'i was desperate. To think that you alone can determine the life choices for another person is the height of arrogance. Yes, character matters.

Papa Smurf UTE
Herriman, UT


How do you know they do not initiate any contact at all with athletes on their missions? Are you on the coaching staff, or a recruiter at the Y? Just because someone says that it is not heppening doesnt make it true. The Saits said there were no bountys being paid ofr years and years, sure enough there were.

Phoenix, AZ

I understand guys changing their minds during their missions. I don't believe BYU initiates any contact for missionaries from other schools. If that is not the case, i would be seriously dissappointed in my alma mater.

Sounds like he is making the call to go to BYU and foot the bill. That is his right and I wish him well. I agree with the comments that it might not matter much. If he was not given an offer by BYU before his mission, is he going to be that good?

Orem, UT

Looks like Norm is still bitter about being passed over for the BYU Head Coaching job when LaVell retired. Grow up and show some class.

Papa Smurf UTE
Herriman, UT

While I dont think that too much talking to players on missions goes on, I do believe it does happen on occasion. Maybe not from the head coach, but from recruiting coordinators, and other asst coaches. Players who were looked at by some teams and not offered a scholly before their missions may get a lot bigger and taller while on their mission, and families tell coaches, recruiters, etc. about their kids. The schools get interested in them again, and may start to talk to them. We will never really know what does go on.

Cougar in Texas
Houston, TX

Papa Smurf UTE: How do you know they do not initiate any contact at all with athletes on their missions?

Two ways to know: First, Mendenhall has clearly laid out the conditions upon which his staff will communicate with a player from another school who is serving a mission, which are that the player or his family first contacts BYU and expresses interest in BYU. BYU will then acquire permission from the player's mission president to return the contact. Second, in each transfer case where there has been follow-up, it has been confirmed that BYU followed the aforementioned protocol.

Roy, UT

Giving up a scholarship to attend the Y, shows earnest desire to transfer..rules for players should be upgraded to equal rules for Coaches, like Chow in leaving the U. Without the Coach, players can still play, we still have a game...what do we have without the players?

Papa Smurf UTE
Herriman, UT

Cougar in Texas,

They can say they followed the correct protocol all they want, and while I believe for the most part that it actually is done the right way, things can still go on behind the scenes. I am not saying that only BYU does this, the UTES have a ton of LDS players and returned missionaries and they may also talk to missionaries while they are still out and about. All I am saying is that we will never know for sure if they do talk to them or not. They can tell us they don't talk to them while on their missions until the cows come home, but that does not mean it does not happen.

Old Jake
Salt Lake City, UT

The student athlete is being used and abused by the system. Coaches are manipulating their lives while they are free to change jobs anytime they want.

When the headcoach leaves or is fired then every athlete that is part of the program should be able to leave as well. Freedom is always the answer!

It is Satan's plan to keep the kids enslaved to the University against their will.

Change the rules!

Charlotte, NC

There was an article about this in the Tribune that was MUCH more informative. This one was spun to make it appear that Hawaii was just being mean.

I don't think that BYU does any recruiting with missionaries but after so many decide to transfer to BYU while they are on their missions I can understand why other schools believe that they do. Hawaii invested in this player and allowed him to go on a mission. It would be quite annoying to then lose the player to BYU. I can't blame Hawaii or any other school that blocks players from transferring to BYU in this kind of situation.

Payson, UT

RE: Papa Smurf UTE

If every player that BYU got off a mission has said there was no contact. All the coaches have said there is no contact. Then you have to beleave them unless you have proof. Don't you think some of these kids that transfers don't play or transfers again would have an ax to grind if BYU broke the rules. But you heard of nothing.

RE: Max you say Hawaii allowed him to go on a mission. A school can't stop a player who wishes to serve a mission. They can say if you leave you can't come back or say you will not have any aid if you leave. The kid wanted to serve a mission while out on a mission he changed his mind on where he wished to play. Hawaii would be a fun place for a 18 or 19 year old kid. He was ready to come home and should be allowed to do so.

Broom Hockey Champ
Alpine, UT

And I thought Chow was classy. Ever since he left BYU, he has demonstrated a less than spectacular code of ethics.

Columbia, MO

Here's to hoping that BYU really pours it on when Hawaii comes to town this fall.

Charlotte, NC


I am quite aware that in the United States of America a college cannot keep you from going on a mission. Most readers will understand that I meant that Hawaii would hold his scholarship. Given that Hawaii allowed him to do this, I can understand their position. By the way, it was the previous coach who would allow a transfer to anywhere but BYU. Chow later concurred. How much fun it is for an 18 year old is irrelevant. This is about following through on a commitment. There are sometimes consequences to changing your mind. I respect the position of these other schools. I can see their point. They are not doing this just to be mean as this article implies. See the article by Jay Drew in the Tribune for a much more informative and even handed coverage.

chase SL
Salt Lake City, UT

Its probably because he realizes BYU plays Hawaii multiple times over the next few years.

Roberts, ID

To my knowledge BYU didn't cry when Jake Murphy returned from a mission early to transfer to Utah. Jake had signed a LOI with the Cougars prior to leaving and had he served the full 24 months would have returned for the winter semester and had a scholarship waiting for him. However, when he returned early there was not a scholarship available so he transferred. I would think under those circumstances there was probably some chicanery involved.
Also, Chow has never gotten over being passed over to replace LaVell. In hindsight it was a huge financial bonus for him since he has made far more money than had he stayed in Provo.

Mcallen, TX

It's clear why Chow didn't get the head coaching job.

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