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Conservatives say the media has a Mormon problem instead

Published: Monday, April 23 2012 4:11 p.m. MDT

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sjgf
South Jordan, UT

"Let's remember that President Obama has had so many things hurled at him — birth certificate questions..."

Hmmm.

And when the questions were hurled at him, he dodged them, and the main stream media helped him dodge them. I've seen the birth certificate that he finally put on his web site. I've seen the obvious alterations that indicate that it is a fraud. Yet the main stream media just tells everyone that it is authentic, so most people believe it without ever looking at it. Sheeple.

The question will not go away for many of us just because many reporters keep telling us to believe the party line.

Swedish reader
Stockholm, Sweden

Everyone should be judged by his or her own actions, not by those of their relatives, ancestors, ethnic group,or other members of their faith. The very nature of prejudice is to pre-judge someone by thinking that if they belong to a certain religion, or party, or ethnic group (or any grouping at all), they must have the same characteristics as other members of that group. (And when there is prejudice, there is usually also a more or less capricious definition of what those characteristics are.) The only way to get the right person for the job of President is to see that person him- or herself, rather than their ancestors, other people in their church, etc.

Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

The Obama campaign will not attack the LDS Church or Romney's Mormonism. Their surrogates like Lawrence O'Donnell will. Just get used to it. They have to do it because they have nothing else.

sammyg
Springville, UT

Funny, I seem to have a problem with 'Brother' Harry Reid's politics.

Midwest Mom
Soldiers Grove, WI

I live in "the mission field," and virtually no one is talking about Romney's personal beliefs. Utah media needs to stop promoting, dare I say encouraging, this bias. Although I know that a lot of newspapers could be sold by re-igniting the old persecution complex, people are a lot more tolerant of religious differences than this article would suggest. In fact, such prejudice is more likely to come from the far right, than the left. As for Romney's fitness for office, his religious affiliation is only significant to me in the ways that he does not hold to his own standards. Romney's speeches in Wisconsin were full of inaccuracies and downright misrepresentations. Integrity is more about acting in good faith than it is about the practice of personal faith.

Liberal Ted
Salt Lake City, UT

The only things obama has on Mitt Romney. He has to attack his religious clothing, the founder of the religion, and that Mitt was successful and became wealthy. If that is all of the horrible things Mitt has done, then Mitt is our new president.

obama on the other hand, has 4years of policy making that is on the books and a record he has to defend and speak for. Which most of the nation is not happy at all with his policies and the direction of the nation.

Just compare the two and it's obvious who the the better choice is.

NOBAMA2012!

elarue
NEW YORK, NY

They're not going to throw Mormonism at Mitt Romney. They're going to throw his record at Bain Capital at him. When most voters are aware that he was responsible for Bain Capital buying up companies, shipping their jobs overseas, and in the end, bankrupting those companies, hurting thousands of middle class families, they're going to want to make sure he never becomes President.

Remember, it was Romney himself who shied away from talking about his faith and focused on his business record. There was plenty of discomfort from the right about the church, but he still managed to pull off the nomination because the anti-Romney crowd couldn't coalesce around a single candidate.

Liberals overall don't care about religion, but they do care about religious zealots trying to infringe on their values, and I'm not just talking about stuff like Prop 8 - I'm talking about the numbers of Christian Conservatives who are anti-union, anti-environment, anti-Medicare, etc, etc, even when there's nothing specific in their doctrines against those things. You give me a Mormon Dennis Kucinich, and liberals will love him all the same.

tenx
Santa Clara, UT

Then it tracks that Lawrence O'Donnell must be a Democrat. I love the snarl on his face when he talks about us. Cute!

JP
Chandler, AZ

Hang on--Romney's an albino zombie?

Utes Fan
Salt Lake City, UT

@Pragmatic
"Wo is me..another Mormon story and how they are so persecuted. I swear..Mormon's oddly seem to WANT to be persecuted. They love wallowing in it...it is so strange."

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Mormons don't claim to be persecuted today. They just don't like non-truths being told about them.

Critics cry "PERSECUTION COMPLEX!" when Mormons justifiably correct their spins on Mormonism.

We Latter-Day Saints can take criticism far more than our critics and those who hate us. Just don't expect us to not make corrections to things we think misrepresent us and out

JM
Lehi, UT

I appreciate the effort to reduce bigotry in his party. The Democrats have repeatedly claimed they will not smear based on religion, but the left has been attacking the Church of Jesus Christ for quite a while (especially gay activists, even before prop8). I’m not saying Obama controls everything done by Democrats, but if the same sort of mocking, profaning, etc were directed towards Muslims, or others, Obama would speak out against it.
I’ve been paying attention to the numbers of hateful or misinforming anti-Mormon articles, comments, etc, and liberals are doing far more of it than Conservatives. The NY times ran four anti-Mormon articles in one day.
They might not realize that when they stoop to mocking, or lying about the religion of another, then it shows that they have little to offer to improve the world.
Obama has his pastors also, but he also has the likes of O’Donnell, Maher etc etc. Liberal anti-Mormonism generally works through the media, and liberal activists are among the most vocal and hateful people when it comes to Mormon bashing.

Ross
Madison, AL

Romney is so different from any candidate who has ever run for president in my over 60 years of voting. Typical electioneering tricks will not work this time, the Dems will have to find the restraint that seems so unnatural to them or they will find they have become victims of the largest landslide victory in US history.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Pres. Heber J. Grant and Pres. James E. Faust must be rolling over in their graves right now….

Joe Moe
Logan, UT

"(Women are) not great fans of polygamy, 86 percent were not great fans of polygamy," Schweitzer said. "I am not alleging by any stretch that Romney is a polygamist and approves of (the) polygamy lifestyle, but his father was born into (a) polygamy commune in Mexico."

I find it so obnoxious when political commentators pretend to be predicting how the public will respond to certain tidbits; when in fact, they are trying to CREATE that response, by throwing the information out there without being willing to own it themselves.

In other words, because it would be absurd and self-destructive to say, "I don't think women should vote for Romney because his dad was born in a polygamy commune in Mexico," they dare not say it but instead say things like, "Women won't be comfortable with the fact that Romney's dad was born in polygamy commune in Mexico" (I don't even know if that's true, and I don't care). Thus they achieve their goal of originating the propaganda without being willing to own up to it themselves. It is intellectual cowardice.

Politicians of all stripes use this technique. Watch for it, don't get manipulated.

Hawkyo
SYRACUSE, UT

LDS Lib, you have a very skewed view of reality. your very name is oxymoronic.

Hemlock
Salt Lake City, UT

Tempted to play anti-Mormonism? It's an article of faith for the Dems. Publicizing and acting indignant about Romney's theology or his great grandfather's marriage practices while smiling about the extra-marital affairs of Bill Clinton and John Edwards and ignoring Rev. Jeremiah Wright is the ultimate act of hypocrisy.

Joe Moe
Logan, UT

Hawkyo says: "LDS Lib, you have a very skewed view of reality. your very name is oxymoronic."

As an LDS conservative, I whole-heartedly disagree Hawkyo. There are components of the liberal agenda that are praiseworthy, other components that are defensible (even if I personally disagree with them), and then there are those components that are totally wrong-headed.

Wow, sounds kind of like the conservative agenda, when I stop to think about it. I say I am "conservative" not because I agree with all things "conservative," but because on balance that philosophy appears to me to be more correct more often.

"Liberal" and "conservative" are huge categories, embracing many things (fiscal, social, cultural, etc.). If anyone thinks that one is perfect and the other atrocious, they are not looking very close, or thinking very hard. And they are doing themselves and everyone else a disservice.

John20000
Cedar Hills, UT

I think most people think Mormons are weird until they get to know some. Then they say stuff like "when I found out you were Mormon, I was surprised. You are so normal."

As for Obama, Obama's leadership, policies, and attitudes don't sit well with me; especially his anti-capitalism leanings, deficit spending increases, increased borrowing, naive foreign policy campaigns, and the fact that he seems to be playing strategic games instead of having his decisions based more on morals and deep standards. His speeches come across as condescending like I am a child being lectured to by a parent. That may work with a certain "please take care of me" crowd, but for the "ask not what your country can do for you" crowd, it is a turn-off. I guess we will find out which crowd gets more voters to show up.

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, UT

"Pres. Heber J. Grant and Pres. James E. Faust must be rolling over in their graves right now…."

LDS Liberal,

When was Heber J. Grant alive? Were politics different then? As for James E. Faust, I invite you to read his talk called "Serving the Lord and Resisting the Devil" in the September 1995 Ensign. He was not a Democrat as people today think of Democrats, and he certainly wasn't liberal. He was more like a Republican in his ideologies. It's not simply black and white with liberal/conservative, nor are all repubs/dems strictly one or the other (as Joe Moe points out), but most LDS believe the right is more often correct.

Bored to the point of THIS!
Ogden, UT

Romney's a Mormon?

I thought he was a Republican?

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