Dutchman"The facts are that the U has a $2.2 billion budget, 8%
of which comes from you the Utah tax payer to cover academics and
research."Is this the "new math" being taught on the
hill?The University of Utah’s budget includes 11 line items,
the largest of which is the Education and General line item, which covers 88.7
percent of the ENTIRE institution’s budget.As a public
institution, Utah's budget is accessible to the general public, so unless
you have some secret insider information that only you are privy to, please stop
boring us 8% funding myth.
The not so mighty Ute reality#8 of 12 Football (4-5)#2 of 8
Gymnastics#11 of 12 Basketball(M) (3-15)#8 of 12 Basketball(W)
(8-10)#8 of 12 Cross-Country(W) -- of 9 Cross-Country(M) didn't
compete#5 of 12 Soccer(W) (6-5)#9 of 9 Softball (0-15)#11 of
11 Baseball (5-13)#7 of 8 Tennis(M) (1-6)#8 of 11 Tennis(W) (3-7)#9 of 12 Volleyball(W) (6-16)-- of 12 Volleyball(M)As most
rational fans expected, the Red Rocks are the only Utah team that's even
come close to winning a PAC 12 championship. Women's soccer is the only
other team to finish with a winning conference record.
Dutchman"the U must fund raise now more than ever"The sad truth is if the Utes are pinning all of their hopes on being able to
keep up with the PAC 12 Joneses in funding, they're fighting a losing
battle. The Utes have bitten off way more than they'll ever be
able to chew and middle of the pac to lower-tier conference finishes will be the
norm from now on. A program that's only averaged ONE
championship per decade for the last 60 years, in the much weaker WAC and MWC,
will be lucky to win a championship every couple of decades in the PAC 12,
despite the grandios delusions of the kids on the hill.
Dutchman"The University of Utah is operated as a public
university but is funded more like a private university..."You
are soooo delusional. The U receives $400 to 450 MILLION every year from the
State of Utah!You keep postulated this myth that the U generates
it's own funds, but in reality, the vast majority of their self-generated
funds comes from research grants, which only assists a relatively small
percentage of UofU students.
@DutchmanThe utah "fans" have been the ones proclaiming utah
will now be rolling in money. I have been saying that they will be just as far
behiond everyone else as before, and I am correct about that. Even if utah
raises $150 mil, and of course that is not even accurate as hill says $50 mil
will come from new pac12 revenues which they get anyway, so really it is $100
mil, it still puts them at the bottom of the pac12.The average pac12
athletic budget is over $60 mil and the new tv revenues have not even kicked in.
That should boost the average for the other schools to somehwere between $80-90
mil per year. That will be very tough for utah to compete with. Frankly they
cannot. My guess is we will see most of the money put into the
football program with the rest of the programs left to barely breath let alone
compete. Then we'll see which school in this state really threw their
olympic sports under the bus.
Duck ---You're still sore about the 54-10 beat down....it's ok.....
The University of Utah is operated as a public university but is funded more
like a private university but in the case of the two private universities in the
PAC 12 (Stanford and USC) Utah is way behind in fund raising and athletic money
support. No one that I spoke with or read quoted in the paper ever said that
the PAC 12 TV money would be the saving grace for the University of Utah. To
the contrary, the U must fund raise now more than ever but the biggest benefit
will go to the HS athletes from the State of Utah who will now get the state of
the art facilities and the competition in a BCS conference that they deserve.
This is something utah has to do to compete. They have to. The truth is they are
at the bottom of the pac12 in athletic budget and with the exception of womens
gymnastics no other program did well this year in conference. Even the much
vaunted football season produced a losing conference record. Money matters, now
more than ever, for utah. They have to fund raise.I do find it funny
that utah "fans" have been telling us how great it will be to be rolling
in doe with the new pac12 deal when this proves that to be false. As I have been
saying for the last 2 years, utah will still be last in revenue in this
conference and they will still be behind everyone else in facilities. utah has
been a non self supporting and subsidized program for its entire modern
existence, that hasn't changed. utah "fans" should be bearing more
of the burden, they should be bearing all of the burden.
NCI like your Obama-Gore reference. Very nice.
pokyUteWhy soak the alumni and everyone else for more money? I
thought all of the future revenue from the new conference affiliation was the
'fix' for everything athletic?Us po' folk can only
hope that Obama's stash will subsidize our Al Gore internet and our cable
tv so we can watch too.
Sherlock Holmes,The facts are that the U has a $2.2 billion budget,
8% of which comes from you the Utah tax payer to cover academics and research.
None of your taxes go to athletic programs. None. $150 million from private
sources for athletic programs is a drop in the bucket vs academic programs and
what do you care anyway?
I love how any article about money spent on college sports always generates the
same tired whining about spending on college sports. Give me a break.
So, is the school trying to build some teams it can be proud of, or are the
athletic programs trying to build a school it can be proud of...Just
kidding. But in these days, the $ spent on sports overwhelm the $ spent on the
academic items. Imagine if $150 million were put into student scholarships
and academic programs...
Utah's education system has been doing it for decades. Money doesn't
make your sports better? What hypocrites...