@cwebI remember both. Sat down low on about the 40 for the BYU/Miami
game because my rotating student tickets were choice for that game. It was
great.But times change and things are not what they once were. While
not yet one of the blue hairs that never want to stand up or make a sound I find
I also no longer want to stand up for the entire game like we did as students. I
like to stand and cheer at approriate times and sit down the rest of the
time.But it really doesn't matter if that noise is coming from
one side, or one end, or one of the others, it is still there, that hasn't
changed. If the students are ever banished from LES or the MC then you will
probably have a point. But that is not ever going to happen. Just having your
seat moved from one side to another is no big deal.
LIfe is not all about business...remember Charles Dickens? "People were my
business" But not at BYU. The dollar rules, and Tom Holmoe and all these
Vice-President-this adn Vice-President that, well, they have no idea what the
students mean to the team, and sitting along the entire side of the stadium,
well, they give the home court advantage. But the students keep taking it in
the shorts...remember when Coach Cleveland scoured the dorms to get
"students" to come to the games? He didn't scour the
neighborhoods, it was the students who were vital. Now they are expendable.
I'm seeing about 98% of the comments against this idea, but the
administration does not care. Ever wonder what happened to the real
"home-field" advantage at LES? When they moved the students from the
sideline, it was gone. We've lost more games at home since that move. We
already are losing at the Marriott, now lets move the only group making any
noise most of the game, further away. Nice idea suits. Take them off and try to
remember what it was like to NOT be a suit. Remember being a student! Terrible
BYU is lowering ticket prices for a superior product.Utah increased
ticket prices for an inferior product.Net result, BYU's average
attendance (actual bodies in seats) will be more than double the attendance at
the HC and BYU will make substantially more in basketball revenue, not to
mention the vastly superior worldwide fanbase that will be tuning to watch the
Cougars on ESPN and BYUtv.It's easy to see why BYU's
Business Management and Accounting programs are ranked ahead of Utah's.
One thing I've got to agree with is that the MC is not particularly
comfortable. Both the seats and the bleachers are uncomfortable. I'm
6'3" and I have to try and turn sideways just a little bit or my knees
basicly hit the person in front of me in the head. Of course the seats are also
very narrow so that is hard to do as well.I would like to see if
these renovations correct that, I hope they do. This has really been needed for
quite a long time and I am glad they are finally doing it.
Rob"I doubt that in football the students would be relegated to
the end zone seating, but perhaps that is next."It's
obviously been a loooong time since you attended a football game at BYU. The
vast majority of BYU students have been relegated to the end zones for years. As
for basketball, there's no reason the students can't be just as loud
and enthusiastic sitting behind the basket as they've been sitting
courtside. btw, you jab at the "almighty dollar" simply
proves you didn't read the article. BYU is REDUCING seating capacity and
LOWERING ticket prices, while improving comfort and safety with improved seating
and sound system. Many of the bleachers in the student section were showing
their age after 40 years. The Marriott Center was due for a sprucing up.
Chris B:I guess moving from the MWC to the PAC has it's
advantages:Fewer fansFewer players that stay the whole four yearsFewer post season berthsFewer wins Hang in there lil band of
IndeMakOr he, like most of the rest of us, has read newspaper
articles talking about BYU being one of few athletic programs to operate in the
black....If you check the archives of this particular newspaper, for
instance. Sorry to interrupt your insults with facts.
"..."We've more than doubled the number of pricing
options..."You serious Clark?
@indekakAll you've got to do is read the paper where these
things are reported. Then you have to be smart enough to retain what you've
learned. Sadly that is not the case with the majority of utah "fans" so
I have to remind them.LOL!
@IndeMak-If Duckhunter is talking just about basketball, then he is
right. BYU releases statements about their athletic programs and how much money
they make/spend. Both football and basketball operate in the black. Not so
true with their other sports (like pretty much any school).
This is a bad change. I have not attended a BYU basketball game in years. That
being said, when I was a student having the student section at the center of the
court was where most of the enthusiasm and cheering was coming from. Like the
student quoted said, the "paying" fans seldomly if ever show the
enthusiasm of the student section. I doubt that in football the students would
be relegated to the end zone seating, but perhaps that is next. Is the almighty
dollar so important, that students who attend the university are given a
second-class status? The administration's rhetoric about researching other
schools, etc. is just trying to put a positive spin on a slap at the student
body. Just the other day, Harmon wrote an article about how grateful Dave Rose
was for the fans and increased support. This took Cleveland and Rose many years
to build back up. If I remember correctly, Cleveland began with the students to
restore interest and fan support for basketball. A shame to see their hard work
destroyed in one press conference. The administration should pad the existing
chairs on the southside and leave the students alone.
IndeMakDuckhunter isn't revealing any super secret, inside
information about BYU; it's common knowledge that BYU's athletic
programs operate in the black.Jealous Utah fans and student are
simply jealous that the cash-strapped Utes have to gouge their fans and students
just to keep up with the PAC 12 Joneses.
How about more diaper changing stations?How did Ducky get the
financial records of BYU again? We all knew he was smart but we didn't
realize he was a General Authority as well. He is the who's who of BYU.
Keep us all posted Mr. Duck. We all believe everything you say.
What a joke, this is such a terrible idea. The BYU student section was so great
because it allowed the students prime seats. Now they're sticking them in
the west stands, taking away their prime seating...so disappointed with this
BYU fans enjoy plenty of advantages. I'm not sure exactly what advanteges
are, but the U can have all it wants.But seriously, chairs in the
student section? This seems like a very bad idea. How are we supposed to
maintain the Cameron of the West if our students are sitting down.
We will enjoy not seeing Chris at BYU games.
christina those are not related issues. BYU can charge fans less because they
don't need to charge them more. Unlike utah which will have to drop prices
just to get people to even consider going to the hc.You see BYU is
one of only a few schools in the entire country that operates in the black. In
otherwords it brings in more revenue than it needs. This is not the situation at
utah which has to be propped up with student fees and high ticket prices.Higher ticket prices are not something to brag about, or celebrate. They
are indicative of a program unable to fully fund itself appropriately.
The structure of the MC will not allow for decent leg room with any type of
renovation. I am not tall and the leg room in the chair seating area is not
healthy. Maybe the new seats will be wider but perhaps the width of
the chair seat is not the problem; possibly the seatee needs renovating.Good to see chrissy checking in again on all things BYU. What a
How about seats that are a little wider than those installed in 1971. The
current seats are extremely uncomfortable.
Well I guess moving from the MWC to the WCC as oppposed to moving to the Pac 12
does have its advanteges - cheaper tickets!