midpacmajorSalt Lake City, Utah"Again, I only bring up the score
when talking to you because that is all we have in common"True.
BYU is a perennial Top 25 team and has only lost to two 10-loss
teams in its entire history.Utah rarily finishes in the Top 25, but
has lost to two 10-loss teams in the last 5 years.--Yet
we lost 54-10 at home against Utah.
ClassyUteSOUTH JORDAN, UTIf we are going to count club sports, can
we count ALL club sports, because i'm pretty sure Utah would have the edge
there. I was on the club water polo team at the U for the last few years, and i
can't think of a time where BYU even came close to beating us. Also, our
shooting and hockey teams are perrenial powerhouses. See how ridiculous this can
get? Lets also not forget that our Red Rocks are on their way to another NCAA
nationals appearance and the ski team came in second at nationals recently.--Speaking of hockey. Utah played Washington in the Pac 12
club finals and lost I believe. But my point is that hockey appears to be on the
Pac 12 radar. So over the next few years I see schools like Washington, Utah,
Oregon, Cal and others make the jump to compete officially in D1. Meanwhile my fellow BYU fans can brag about club sport green jello and bread
I have a message for BYU fans.Rather than thump your chest about club
sports. Perhaps you should work on getting into a BCS conference.And work
on your football scheduling. That's pathetic! The only reason you were
ranked is because teams in various conferences were down. Is your team honestly
worthy of a top 25 ranking by playing bottom feeder teams?Apparently you
ClassyUteWhen was the last time Utah won a national championship in
any of your club sports?
"Again, I only bring up the score when talking to you because that is all we
have in common"True. BYU is a perennial Top 25 team
and has only lost to two 10-loss teams in its entire history.Utah
rarily finishes in the Top 25, but has lost to two 10-loss teams in the last 5
Well said duggity. My favorite above quote is the one about if BYU would have
played harder/ better during the game last Fall who knows. Too funny as to me it
appeared to me and most others that BYU was trying with all their might with all
helmet to helmet hits and other acts of poor sportsmanship against the Ute
players. The fact of the matter though was Utah had/has far better/faster
player, a better coach and made BYU look Div III. As if only playing harder
would have changed that; oh the denial.
If we are going to count club sports, can we count ALL club sports, because
i'm pretty sure Utah would have the edge there. I was on the club water
polo team at the U for the last few years, and i can't think of a time
where BYU even came close to beating us. Also, our shooting and hockey teams are
perrenial powerhouses. See how ridiculous this can get? Lets also not forget
that our Red Rocks are on their way to another NCAA nationals appearance and the
ski team came in second at nationals recently.
So, how bout that Rugby match? Wait...maybe this is the wrong article.
phoenix,"It's laughable the extent to which Utah fans will
go to try to rationalize why the rest of the nation was so unimpressed with your
one big win of the season."No one was impressed nationally
because BYU is Irrelevant. I wasn't overly impressed, eiether. Again, I
only bring up the score when talking to you because that is all we have in
common. In my interactions with other college football fans that game never
SoonerUte"It would be better to admit that you had the inferior
team and move on...."For inferior team, see mirror.Top 15 FinishesBronco 3Kyle 1Top 25 FinishesBronco 5Kyle 3Conference ChampionshipsBronco 2Kyle 110+ Win SeasonsBronco 5Kyle 3Losses
to 10+ Loss TeamsBronco 0Kyle 2Losses to Conference
Bottom Dwellers (Wyoming, New Mexico, Colorado State, UNLV, and Colorado)Bronco 0Kyle 6
DevilishUteIt's laughable the extent to which Utah fans will go
to try to rationalize why the rest of the nation was so unimpressed with your
one big win of the season.Here's a clue; one game does not a
@duggityNothing gives me more pleasure than to witness a utah
"fan" throw his hands up in defeat and slink away. Maybe if you had an
actual point to make it would be different.
@devlishuteAnd I'm curious how you ignore losing 10 of 11 and
having your team beaten, and beaten, and beaten, and beaten, badly, every single
Not So Authoritative,You completely dismiss the 44 point beatdown
every time it's brought up because it still pains you. The reason Ute fans
bring it up when talking to Y fans is because that is the only point of
reference we have with Roscoe's merry men. And it's the purest way to
measure which team is better. Otherwise, why would the teams play? Funny that your team got beat so badly and embarrassed so completely that you
have to use another team to do the smack talking for you. It would
be better to admit that you had the inferior team and move on. I'd be
curious how you explain losing 7 of the last 10.
duggity"The only thing last years [sic] final ranking proved is
how flawed the ranking system really is."EVERY AP National
Champion for the last 8 decades has been chosen in exactly the same way.
It's funny how Utah fans beat their chests every time the Utes are ranked
or the Utes beat a ranked team, but then pretend that the ranking system is
flawed when BYU is ranked.Which is a greater accomplishment, beating
a ranked team, or being a ranked team?The truth is, Utah had a
gift-wrapped division title practically handed to them last season - 5 home
games, 4 road games, no Stanford or Oregon, USC ineligible, every other team in
the division finishing with a losing record, and all the Utes had to do to win
the division was beat one of the worst teams in the country, AT HOME.The reason Utah wasn't ranked is because the Utes didn't deserve to
be ranked.The reason BYU was ranked is because the Cougars beat
every team they were supposed to including a more highly ranked bowl opponent.
DU"Only one team absolutely demolished the other by 44"And only one team LOST to a 10-loss team.Better SOS is only
meaningful IF U have similar records. It's funny how U only factor wins
into your calculations, while completely ignoring your losses.
RE: duggity"I just don't have the time or patience for this
type of "my daddy can beat up your daddy" arguments. Get a job buddy.
You have way too much time on your hands." I love that this
comment came after posting three times on a discussion board for an article
about a sport you claim "no one cares about."
Duckhunter...Yeah ok. Are you really going to try using your WAC record as an
argument that BYU had a good team? Really??? Wow. The only thing last years
final ranking proved is how flawed the ranking system really is. Something BYU
football seems to be very good at...1984 anyone? I would bet that about 25ish
percent of college football teams could pull 10 wins with BYU's schedule.
In any case I'm done wasting my time on Duckhunter. I just don't have
the time or patience for this type of "my daddy can beat up your daddy"
arguments. Get a job buddy. You have way too much time on your hands.
"they are on their way up and they are already pretty good"Good enough to be a play-in team.Only one team absolutely
demolished the other by 44 on their own field and had "fans" from other
team scrambling for the exits in the 3rd quarter of the game. One "fan"
went to Tulsa for about 3 or 4 weeks after the game last year.
@duggityTell us about josh herlihy and how utah basketball is
"on the way up".LOL!
@duggityOnly a true fool would say BYU basketball is on its way down
when they are loaded with talent and more coming in. Frankly they are on their
way up and they are already pretty good.As far as football is
concerned most of the talk about one program being better for the rest of the
existence of the Earth is coming from utah "fans". What I'm curious
to see is how you talk if BYU is the better team again this year. And remember
only one of them finished with double digit wins and a national ranking last
year. Of course that is the same one that finishes with double digit wins and a
national ranking almost every year.
Duckhunter. To answer your question, yes. With the exception of mens
basketball, all of those other sports you mentioned truly don't matter.
And if you check the record, I never have harped on the whole "conference of
champions" thing, because there are so many championships held by conference
teams in (again) a bunch of sports that just don't matter. And yes, I will
admit that the Utes have stunk it up lately in basketball, but only a true fool
would try to claim that they won't make it back to where they were. We all
know it's cyclical. Utah football will probably be extremely good this
year and possibly for the next several years, but we all know they will have a
bad season sooner or later. It's the way college sports work. BYU
basketball was excellent last year and was decent this year, but things look to
be going downhill. They will probably have an off year or two and then will get
good again. It's how all college sports work. What I'm curious too
see is how you talk if Utah is the better team again this year.
@Duckhunter"now that you have declared ALL sports other than
football MEANINGLESS, I fully expect you to avoid the hypocrisy of refering to
the pac12 as "the conference of champions" considering that those sports
that don't matter are the ones that the pac12 uses to make that
claim."Carefull, Duckhunter, you're going to confuse the
"conference of champions" wannabe's.Excluding USC,BYU has won more concensus National Championships (#1 in AP AND Coaches
Polls) in football,than the rest of the PAC 12 COMBINED!!!
Oh by the way duggity, now that you hve declared all sports other than football
meaningless I fully expect you to avoid the hypocrisy of refering to the pac12
as "the conference of champions" considering that those sports that
don't matter are the ones that the pac12 uses to make that claim.
@duggityI don't think I said anything about the p.a. announcer,
I really don't care.As for the rest I would sorta agree with
you,for some sports, no one does care all that much other than they just like to
know they are better, kinda like utah skiing. But are you trying to infer that
top line sports like mens and womens basketball, baseball and softball,
volleyball, track and field, don't matter? Especially basketball? That is
just you trying to live in denial which based on the results I can certainly
understand.So it seems to me that utah "fans" like yourself
are now denying that any sport matters other than football since that is basicly
the only sport utah is even semi competitive in. Go ahead and trumpet
utah's big football win last year, it is the one and only thing any of you
have and it is still the most important thing to all of you, important enough
that it allowed all of you to declare a losing conference season a success.LOL!
"Who cares, rugby is a club sport." U do or U wouldn't
be here.It's hilarious that the ONLY highlight of Utah's
entire first year in the PATHETIC 10.2 is a NON-CONFERENCE win over an
"irrelevant, non-AQ, Independent, former rival."Trumpeting
such a "meaningless" win on every BYU article, especially when
you've been DOMINATED in every other sport, proves just how desperate and
insecure our little friends on the hill are.Men's Basketball -
BYU 61 Utah 42Men's Swimming - BYU 162 Utah 138Men's
Tennis - BYU 5 Utah 2Men's Baseball - BYU 9 Utah 8Men's
Baseball - BYU 9 Utah 6Men's Rugby - BYU 38 Utah 22Men's
Football - Utah 10 BYU 54
Yes fans, the lower tier of the Pathetic 12, the conference of Chumpions is
something of which to be proud. It is indeed great to be a Ute, Especially in
basketball (and most other sports). The only Pathetic 12 team where the fans
have a chance to play in games. What is it now 7 more ute basketball players
bail on the program. That's what, basically the whole team in the last 15
months. What a reqruiting magnet the Pathetic 12 is now, eh?
RE: Wendell Hoop and duggity"Who cares, rugby is a club
sport." Do us all a favor and don't post comments on the
discussion boards for sports you don't care about. I do actually care
about BYU rugby, not because BYU is consistently one of the best teams in the
country, but because it is really fun to watch. I don't care if it's
a club sport, I do care that BYU is great at it (and I like when they beat the
Duckhunter. So let me paraphrase your comment; Lets forget about the thrashing
we took that made us look like a bunch of high schoolers, but instead focus on
all the sports that nobody watches, follows, or cares about, because that
doesn't make us look as bad. You do realize the NCAA doesn't even
acknowledge rugby right? It's called a club sport. And as far as the
"knocked microphone", what is a PA announcer even doing near the coach?!
What do you think Bronco would do if a reporter or announcer tried to talk
to/confront him during gameplay? Probably the same or worse, after which said
reporter would be removed and permanently banned from the stadium in all
likelyhood. Also, has anyone that's not related to one of the athletes
actually ever been to a swim meet or tennis match? "You may have beaten us
in football, but our synchronized swimming team totally dominated you! So
there!" I would ask you to think before you type, but I understand the
likelyhood of that. If the comment is true that "I think, therefore I
am", would that call your actual existence into question?
More of you should take the loss and move on instead of making excuses."Had BYU given their best, who knows what would have happened." They
gave up.Which games did BYU give their best? USU? Tulsa? SJSU?
COUGARNATE, I wasn't at the game either, but I had friends who were, and
apparently a student announcer on the sideline was trying to ask him questions
on the mic as he was coaching, so he pushed his hand out of his face, and when
the police came, their response was, "You called us for this?" and left
immediately. But DEW Cougars, NevadaCoug, 3grandslams and SportsFan are welcome
to believe their own version of it if they think it makes Utah look worse. It
won't hurt my feelings at all.
who cares, rugby is a club sport. 54-10 people!!! haha
Lol! Was that Coach Rick Majerus losing his cool. Stay classy.
Forget about the BYU/utah football game. It is done and it is in the books. All
that matters is that BYU is now dominating utah in just about every other sport.
This is an ongoing and satisfying process that we can all enjoy just about
weekly as each new dominating victory occurs.
Yeah I live in Wyoming and I could not attend the game, but I would like to know
what happened with the coach, and the P.A. announcer. I will be at Rio Tinto
for the rematch for the National Title though.
Utah did beat BYU in football this year, it's true. However, I think we
can all agree that BYU didn't play their best, which is why it went how it
did. Had BYU given their best, who knows what would have happened.
so did anyone actually go watch the game or just jump on to make a big deal out
of a utah coach having a small fit?i couldn't attend the game
yesterday, but i thought byu would get the win. utah has good speed and good
athleticism, but they don't have the size and experience that byu has and
from what i heard about the game it sounds like that's what ended up
winning it for byu in the second half. depending on where these two teams fall
in the college tournament picture, we may see a utah/byu national championship
game. cal, who normally takes it every year, decided to drop out of the college
premier division so they aren't eligible for the national championship game
this year. i'd love to see a rematch between these two schools for the
Not surprisingly, especially for the kids on the hill, most of U missed the
salient point of SportsFan's comment. Let's review:Men's Basketball - BYU 61 Utah 42Men's Swimming - BYU 162 Utah
138Men's Tennis - BYU 5 Utah 2Men's Baseball - BYU 9 Utah
8Men's Baseball - BYU 9 Utah 6Men's Rugby - BYU 38 Utah
22Men's Football - Utah 10 BYU 54Utah deserves credit for
their lone win in football, but overall, the Cougars DOMIMATED the Utes, winning
6 of the 7 head-to-head contests.Utah doesn't even bother
fielding Indoor and Outdoor Track & Field, Cross-Country, and Volleyball
teams, or it would have been ELEVEN to one!The ONLY sport U have
going for U is football, and even there, BYU had a better overall season and
finished ranked in the Top 25, while the not-so-mighty Utes finished with a
losing conference record, a worse record overall, and not a single vote in
either poll.Unfortunately for U, one game does not an entire
men's athletic program make.
Fifty four to ten!
As one of the biggest fans of BYU, Utah FLAT OUT handed it to us on our own
turf. I was at the game and they completely dominated us. Get over it whiny
Cougar fans. We did make some miscues, but THEY BEAT US...they forced many of
those turnovers, and they were the better team that night. Had we played them
later in the season we may have beaten them, but I'm still not sure. They
have a superb D. I am happy with the way the team responded the rest of the
year. I just hope the tide changes at RES this fall.Go Cougars!
@ the big samoan,Thank you for being a reasonable fan who saw the
game as it happened. @ Sports Fan, It is ridiculous to
call the game "a 7 turnover gift". Were none of those turnovers forced?
And when they were forced was Utah not supposed to pounce on the ball? That is
how football is played. Turnovers are a huge part of the game and every team
works on forcing turnovers in practice. As the big samoan said, byu got their
butts kicked and then gave up.
The PAC 10.2--conference of champions!
@SportsFan...Ummm, I wouldn't call it a 7-turnover gift. The cougs simply
got their butts kicked into submission and then just plain quit towards the end.
I'm a huge Cougar fan who was very upset and disappointed in that loss.
The Utes came out smoking and we flat out self destruct which was shameful and
embarrassing. Even so, it was one game now in history and I hope it won't
happen again in the future.Go Cougs!
"Classy" move Coach!
"things erupted a bit on the sidelines with a Utah coach knocking the
microphone out of the PA announcer's hand"Probably upset
that the PA announcer kept announcing that BYU was ahead in the game. It's been a tough year for Utah coaches losing to the Cougars in almost
every sport. If not for that 7-turnover gift last September, BYU would be
pitching a shutout of the Utah men.
What's up with the u coach losing his cool towards the PA announcer? Black
eye for Utah.
"Following Shaun Davies' successful penalty kick, things erupted a bit
on the sidelines with a Utah coach knocking the microphone out of the PA
announcer's hand. Police were called to escort the coach off the field and
after much discussion with all parties involved, he was allowed to
return."Stay classy, Utes. Stay classy.