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Published: Friday, April 6 2012 8:47 p.m. MDT

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Lagomorph
Salt Lake City, UT

The video is excellent. Kudos to BYU for taking some forward steps. I worry, though, that gay students may still be subjected to a double standard and forms of affection seen as perfectly acceptable and chaste for straight students, such as hugs, hand holding, and kissing, will be treated as unchaste when done by same sex couples.

milojthatch
Sandy, UT

As one who grew up in LA and having been attacked from gays and gay supports for my religion, I have a unique perspective on this issue. I realize from a first hand account that it exist on a very thin line, with many from all sides ready to pounce. The thing is, despite what our critics may say, even thought we in the LDS faith know and see the act of homosexuality as a sin, that does not mean we don't love and respect those struggling with those feelings, any less then we do for any other sinner, which is everyone.

It saddens me when people who cry for "tolerances" then have none to show themselves for those who disagree with them. I pray in time, we can bridge the gap of trust and understanding between both sides. The church will never be ok with certain things, but we also have a lot of love if others will accept it, and see it for what it really is. Respect is a two way street!

Just Greg
Woods Cross, UT

I was very encouraged when I read this article. The best and brightest of the next generation see the divide between the two communities as so last century. The animosities of the past are quickly disappearing and a new understanding of love and inclusion is not far off. I agree that respect is a one way street and it is truly brave and wonderful that so many students and faculty at BYU see this also. Our LGBT brothers and sisters deserve the love and respect that they are now receiving. I watched the videos and saw the love and respect that these students have for the church and it was good to see the respect returned by the students. There has, and for a while continue to be, disagreements between the two communities. However, these wonderful spirits have begun to bridge that ugly divide. My ancestors were persecuted and reviled for the gospel and I have seen the pain caused by uneducated members of the church towards gays and lesbians. Both groups are very familiar with pain and suffering because of small minded people. I encourage everyone to watch these videos and do our part to end the hatred.

UTAH Bill
Salt Lake City, UT

Good for them. Progress takes time and these students are helping.

The Utah Republican
Alpine, UT

It took me 3 days to watch the video because I thought it would promote the gay agenda, and I didn't want to support that with my viewer statistic.

When I finally did, I found it to be amazingly touching. The young men and women on the video express their faith in the Savior and their love for the gospel, and share a message of peace with others who have similar struggles. I think they deserve the love and support of our Christian community.

Phranc
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

@milojthatch
in califronia the lDS church was actively pushing to take away gays right to marry the person they love, hardly tolerant. I am sorry if they said mean things to you but you are not a victim you are an agressor.

gharmons
Helendale, CA

How can we see that film?

Marty22
salt lake city, Utah

gharmons; google "It gets better BYU'

Just an Observer
Salt Lake City, UT

@Phranc
Where to begin with that? There is soooooo much more to it than, "denying people their rights" or, "it's all about H8". I could go on and on (and on), and not doing so likely won't do the subject justice, but I'll try to do it in a very brief sentence: The sexual revolution was a huge mistake. Society has deteriorated considerably, affecting lives and quality of lives of so many, mainly those who are children of those who didn't feel being married was essential to being parents. If we want to extrapolate, homosexuality doesn't become "accepted" if the sexual revolution doesn't happen. And extrapolating further, gay marriage is the final hole to try to keep plugged before the floodgates open. If gay marriage becomes legal, it truly won't be long before a host of other forms of "marriage" are considered "rights" as well. Society as we know/knew it will be lost forever until something happens to help reasonable people once again see reason.

mh11
Omaha, NE

There really is a need to show love and support for all of our brothers and sisters--especially those who struggle with same-sex attraction. The rates of depression and suicide among this group of people is staggering, inside and outside of the Church. I appreciate the effort of BYU students to increase understanding and love. However, I feel that subtle points in this approach are cause for concern. The emphasis on affirming statements such as "I am gay," "I am lesbian," etc., clouds the issue. While I agree that there is a biological component to attraction, the issue is one of attraction and not of personal identity. I would hesitate to refer to other people in this way because it implies that they are meant to pursue homosexual relationships, which directly contradicts the gospel of Jesus Christ. Each of us has desires that we need to overcome--many of which we cannot control on our own. The miracle of the gospel is that every last one of us can have our hearts fundamentally changed as we trust in Christ and continue working at it on our own. For those with same-sex attraction, you are loved.

Kalindra
Salt Lake City, Utah

@just an observer
oh good the slippery slope argument I thought we where not going to see this silly logic here. By the way society is far from disintegrating. In case you missed it crime rates are very low and then pregnancy is the lowest it has been since they first started tracking it in 1940. darn that sexual revolution anyway. Maybe you should start with actaully doing a little research and learn a little history.

TripleCrown
Santa Ana, CA

The scriptures teach that usually the Lord does not remove our challenges, but as we strive to keep our covenants and call upon him for help and tap into the power of His atonement, he strengthens us with His grace to become equal to the challenge we are struggling with.

Just an Observer
Salt Lake City, UT

@Kalindra
Just wondering--not that this will change your mind, I'm sure, and not enough can be said in a forum like this to really address the issue--but, have you ever asked a child of divorced or single parents whether they prefer their current situation to that of having both a mother and father in the home? Certainly, not *every* child would answer that having both a mother and father would be better, because perhaps one of the parents was a deadbeat. But most kids would certainly choose to have both a mother and a father. And kids from such families generally do better educationally, financially, emotionally, et cetera than peers who do not (and they are more likely to continue the traditional marriage trend, benefitting their posterity). And, you pointed to crime rates being low, but you ignored those who are actually committing the crimes. Or did you also want to argue that their numbers are not disproportionately large from families without both a mother and father?

Jasmine2012
Seneca, KS

The First Presidency has stated, 'There is a distinction between immoral thoughts and feelings and participating in either immoral heterosexual or any homosexual behavior.' If you do not act on temptations, you have not transgressed."

I have been a member of the LDS Church for many years and I have always loved the way we are encouraged to love and show tolerance. I am disturbed because I am afraid that there are radical groups that are taking advantage of the LDS gay who are struggling. Even as a 'straight' member I understand the gospel and that there are many doctrine that are not 'negotiable.' If they were ~ we would cease to be a church. I know that the gay members would have the support that they need from the church, but the church can only go so far as much is left up to the individuals choices. There is Divine Law ~ it is what it is.

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