To VST 9:45 p.m. 4/9/2012Yes. She was born in Salt Lake City. But
you raised a good question -- given the birther nonsense, one wonders if they
would consider Utah part of the United States (I know they seem to think Hawaii
homebrew: Bill Clinton, did a good job just 12 years ago (after a landslide
republican victory to gain a majority of republlican seats in Congress) in
signing republican bills and helping the first consecutive republican majorities
in both house and Senate in 60 years to (coincidentally of course) bring abouta
balanced budget and record surplus? All single handedly done by Pres. Clinton
without anything at all to do with with either the republican House or Senate,
right? When we had peace and prosperity while Osama bin Laden and Al Qaida and
ran wild and we expanded our military presence worldwide from around 4 or so to
40 or so. Bosnia,Somalia, Kosovo, etc. At least he moderated his presidency and
went along with the mostly sensible policies of the republicans at that time.
I never said to vote for him, I only said it would be better for the other
REPUBLICAN Candidates to drop out, but it's good to listen to other's
opinions and without difference in opinions the world would be quite boring.
@ cavetrollI have, but, wanted like use a different
analogies/cultural references to describe the obvious.
Just a note to WestGranger: Ron Paul is guilty of "sticking his head in the
sand" when it comes to foreign policy only if you're a neocon. No
candidate is more informed about foreign policy than Mr. Paul, especially when
it comes to history and economic foundations of foreign policy. The other
candidates are, to put it mildly, knee-jerk reactionaries whose understanding of
these areas is dangerously superficial.
@Wally WestHsve you seen the movie Pleasantville?
There is a huge difference between Obama and Romney.Ron Paul has some good ideas
but most people reject his ideas on legalizing drugs and sticking his head in
the sand when it comes to our national security and foreign policy.It is the
perfect time to have Romney in the forefront. He is a proven problem solver and
wizard as a business leader who has the know how to fix this country's
economy. Obama only has the "blame game" to try and distract from his
miserable lack of leadership and failure of Obama care and the ignominious
Utah BusinessmanSandy, UTIt's really interesting that we are so
concerned about and envious of the "rich". The so-called "rich"
are those who have the guts, the smarts, etc. to start and run companies and
provide jobs for the rest of us. ============ For some reason,
Paris Hilton blows your rationale completely out of the water.
"If you don't want jobs, then "soak the rich" with high taxes
and regulate them to death"All those tax cuts and deregulation
we had didn't stop us from crashing into a large recession. More of the
same isn't going to make jobs. Rich people are just greedy, they
aren't satisfied having 84% of the wealth owned by the top 20%.
It's really interesting that we are so concerned about and envious of the
"rich". The so-called "rich" are those who have the guts, the
smarts, etc. to start and run companies and provide jobs for the rest of us. If
you don't want jobs, then "soak the rich" with high taxes and
regulate them to death--you can continue to pull in your unemployment checks and
run up the national debt. Then we can become the next Greece.
No! A vote for Ron paul is a vote for the constitution and for freedom. A vote
for Obama, Romney, Gingrich or Santorum is a vote for facism and oppression.
@ Mark B"JCS has an interesting solution to, uh, everything, I
guess."Doesn't he though? Its like he's willingly
incarcerated himself in a Disney Cartoon from the 50's.
JCS, We cannot go back to the days of Bill Clinton, Do you mean just 12 years
ago when we had a balanced budget and record surpluss? When we had peace and
prosperity? Why would we want to go back to those days? MY POINT exactly. You
Gop Minons are out of touch and out of your minds. Wake Up.
What do we believe more about Romney? His intent to cut taxes on millionaires
even more, OR his daily campaigning jeans that show us what a true common man he
is?JCS has an interesting solution to, uh, everything, I guess. No
one but morally clean folks in the White House. Trouble is, only females can be
medically certified that way, and even THEN, oh well, you get the picture. Maybe
JCS would settle for a statute of limitations.
To John Charity Spring | 3:41 p.m. 4/8/2012We must have for our
President a man who believes in and practices the highest moral values. We must
have a President who leads by example.--------------------------The last one of those we had was Jimmy Carter, and he was the
second-worst president this country has ever had (not as bad as GWBush, but
that's a hard standard to meet). President Clinton, while a less-than
moral person, was an excellent president; the United States and its people
prospered and did well under his governance. If I had to choose between someone
like President Clinton and someone like President Carter, I'd choose the
Clinton alternative without question.There's no good candidate
in this election. I don't like President Obama, but he at least cares more
about the common people than the top 1%. The Republican alternatives to
President Obama would be very detrimental for the country and its people. This
is NOT a good election year.
Well, he's A candidate, anyway.
What we need is a guy who will cut taxes for the rich and start a few more wars.
Romney's the guy!
Liberal versus liberal.
I would vote for Furry1993's border collie over Governor Romney, in fact
over any Republican candidate, any day of the week, no matter any self righteous
rants from people claiming I should vote like them or some imagined destruction
will continue.I'll vote for exactly who I chose to and for
whatever reason I want to, thank you.Frankly I, for one, have a
memory that stretches back further then the last news cycle and, in fact, even
further then the last election.I know what the Republicans did when
they had full control of the government. I remember. I know what the Republicans
have been doing since President Reagan ran up the debt on this country. I pay
attention.In fact I see what they are doing right now. And I sure
don't like it. Yep, a border collie would definitely be
preferable to any presidential candidate the Republican party puts on the
"We cannot go back to the days of Bill Clinton if we are to solve this
problem."Looking back , those sure look like the good ole days
I'm with Earl and David King in supporting Mr Paul. Why hold your nose?
Vote for who and what you want not what you don't want.
We must have for our President a man who believes in and practices the highest
moral values. We must have a President who leads by example.Our land
is suffering a great deal of societal ills because far too many are living
immoral lives. The rampant spread of indiscriminate sexuality has led to large
numbers of illegitimate children, broken homes, and sexually transmitted
diseases. The resulting costs to law enforcement and social programs has been
astronomical.We cannot go back to the days of Bill Clinton if we are
to solve this problem. When we had a President who acted with no more restraint
than a randy Russian princess, millions of citizens used this example to excuse
their own debauchery. We cannot have this again.We must have a
President who has always been faithful to his wife, and demands that every
member of his administration behave with the same restraint. Nothing else is
BO vs Mittens? 2 Ivy Leaguers. I'll vote for former NM Gov Gary Johnson who
should get the Libertarian nomination.Maybe, just to annoy Mike R,
I'll write in Leroy Jethro Gibbs??
I have news for you: A vote for Romney is also a vote for Obama in my book.But when we have people like Mike Richards and so many others around us
who simply swallow the GOP's false talking points without making any effort
to learn the truth, what chance do we have?Obama will receive my
vote again.In the meantime, here's one place to try to learn
some of the truth. Google "Policy Differences Between Two Presidents"
to learn where much of Obama's "overspending" really came from.
Can you say, "President Cheney and his dumb little buddy?"
"...Liberals know that with Mr. Romney guiding the "Ship of State",
that many government agencies will be closed and that many government workers
will have to find other employment...".Without a clear unified
super-majority, in the Senate, Romney will have the same success as President
Obama had in dealing with the Republicans in the Senate."...They
know that the "gravy train" will be stopped and that plundering the
public treasury for "vote buying" pork-barrel projects will
stop...".The Republican majority in the house is already having
meetings to "legally" reinstate earmarks, in January 2013. "...A
study of the defense bill identifies 115 proposals as earmarks, including 20 by
GOP freshmen who campaigned against the pet projects...". It looks like the
Republicans are already putting the earmark horse before the altruistic
political cart.So much for political altruism.The
Republicans and the Democrats are two sides of the same coin, the Republicans
just do a better job at messaging.
I hope that everyone votes their conscience. Some posters have shown total
contempt for the privilege to vote. They mock those who paid the ultimate price
to guarantee our rights, including the right to vote.Mr. Romney has
proven that he can fix "financial" things. He has had great experience
turning companies around. He has shown the willingness to shutdown failing
companies rather than letting them bleed away the capital that could better be
used to support other businesses.Liberals know that with Mr. Romney
guiding the "Ship of State", that many government agencies will be
closed and that many government workers will have to find other employment.
They know that the "gravy train" will be stopped and that plundering the
public treasury for "vote buying" pork-barrel projects will stop.When Mr. Obama has increase the deficit by $5 TRILLION dollars in just
three years, any thinking citizen would know that Mr. Obama's policies are
a certain path to destruction.Mr. Romney has the experience and the
leadership qualities to stop Washington from destroying this great nation. Let those who want the destruction to continue vote for their
"border collie" or any other dog.
I would rather vote for my border collie than vote for Romney.
I may vote for Rocky Anderson, since it's not like my voting for Obama
makes a difference in Utah (perhaps this is why we need a national popular vote,
so Democratic votes in Utah and Republican votes in Vermont actually mean
Sorry gop minons. I'll be voting for Obama, although in Utah my vote doesnt
count for much, because its democrat. Romney is a joke, as is the entire GOP
I've heard some pretty twisted logic regarding this issue, and it goes
something like this: Barack Obama is ruining our nation and our economy, so we
Republicans need to unite behind Mitt Romney (the Republican with the most
similarities to President Obama) in order to defeat him. We need a change of
policies, not just a change of party. If you respect the Constitution, and
oppose the Patriot Act and the NDAA, you cannot vote for Mitt Romney or Barack
Obama, because they agree. If you don't think government has the right to
mandate the purchase of a service, merely for being a citizen, you cannot vote
for either man, because once again, they agree. If you think debt is a problem,
and you realize we have to cut from both our bloated national defense, and
reform entitlements to make them solvent, you cannot vote for either of the two,
because neither one will do both. Despite your assertion that there is no logic
in voting for any of the other three Republicans, you missed one reason it makes
sense; namely, conscience. I'm with Earl. I'll write-in Ron Paul and
keep my principles.
Sorry, holding my nose to vote for either Romney or Obama is more than my
stomach can bear. Obama is leading America to the cliff's edge at 100 mph,
while Romney would take us there at 95 mph. Let's get the inevitable over
with. I'm voting for Ron Paul with a clear conscience.