A lot has changed in three months. BYU's 2013 schedule (with understanding
that there is still two open spots) is right now arguably one of the toughest in
the country. Fill the last two with MWC or CUSA teams and enjoy a truly
Thank you Brad for this article.Please, at least once per week, keep
up the talk about us getting into a BCS conference sooner than later. Our
Cougars need this as much as the fans need it.We need to be
pro-active to get into a BCS Conference. Being passive just isn’t going
to get us in. At this point, we know that we are more special than the BCS
Conferences believe us to be.We can’t have it all our way. In
trying to have everything all our way, we may end up with nothing going our
way.Keep up the good work Ron
Oklahoma Cougar asked "please explain Longhorn TV"The Longhorn
Network agreed to quit airing high school football on their network for six
years. That was in addition to signing over all television rights to the league
(as all members did). That includes new members TCU and WVU.
BYU needs to stop "discussing" and start "signing" an agreement
with the BIG 12 before their recruiting and fan base goes down the tubes. Who
ever is dragging their feet about hooking up with the BIG 12 is brain dead. Do
what you should have done two years ago, (if its not to late), and join the BIG
12 before the BUZZ about BYU turns sour and start looking like the Cougars of
the 60's and 70's. The real world of football is recruiting and a
loyal fan base, both of which BYU amazingly still has. Hurry and join the BIG 12
before the program heads any further south as a result of playing weak teams for
I went to school at BYU and grew up a UNM fan in Albuquerque, so I sort of
understand the BYU-Utah rivalry and the dynamic in the WAC/MWC through the
years; however, I never have been able to comprehend the chip that Utah fans
have on their shoulders about the Y. You'd think that the 54-10 win in
football and the invitation to join the Pac-10/12 would speak for themselves,
but there's still like this inferiority complex going on--like everything
BYU is or does is supposed to be viewed through the prism of the Utah rivalry,
and Ute fans can't seem to bear the fact that most BYU fans don't hate
Utah with anything approaching equal intensity. This was the year I became an
inveterate BYU fan, and it was ALL because I was able to watch all the
Cougs' football and basketball games on television. However, it
didn't prevent my rooting for Utah against Georgia Tech in the bowl game or
even my rooting for the 49ers in the NFL playoffs because of Alex Smith.
Just one problem with your thoughts Mr. Rock, it's not about BYU deciding
to join a BCS conference. You have to get invited. An invitation has to be
extended. Nobody, repeat, nobody is interested in adding Provo. Previous members
of the WAC and the MWC will tell you that having BYU in a conference is
miserable. They expect to be treated special and the arrogance factor is too
much to handle. Throw in all the rules about Sunday play and the fact that the
church's stance on social issues is extremely discriminating, you are left
without anyone wanting to invite you. BYU needs to get in on the MWC/C-USA
merger, as it appears that they are the only group that might be interested.
@Naval Vet"...but the cougars blew it by believing they were
desirable enough to issue all sorts of unreasonable demands."**************Yet, the Cougar Nation will try to rewrite history
by claiming long and loud that they turned down the Big East.In
fact, when they brought their high maintenance, prima donna demands to the table
the Big East said, uuuhhhh... on second thought... slowing backing away.... no
RE: Sooner Ute"Cougar fans who think it makes complete sense
that BYU keep all their ESPN/BYUtv rights while the Big 12 works out its own
deal for the other 11 members. That's just silly. You're either a
partner or you're not."OK neighbor, please explain Longhorn
TV.Do agree that Holmoe needs to approach Big 12 with a bit more
"AFCougColorado Springs, COI really do not want to see BYU
become a whipping boy for Texas and Oklahoma like Utah has become for the PAC-12
schools. The Big east allows them to stay competative and get a BCS berth each
year.--------------What a ridiculous attitude.Basically, you're saying you want the Y to be a poser... to play in the
worst BCS-accredited conference so you don't have to play any of the tough
teams. That way, you can beat up on the terrible teams and gain your BCS bid
without having to face any real danger.At the same time, you're
inadvertently admitting that you don't think BYU is good enough to compete
with the likes of Texas and Oklahoma. As such, you don't want to be their
"whipping boy."Is this really the attitude of BYU fans?
Deathly afraid of the power programs and, thus, seeking a way around them?I'm shocked you actually admitted this.
byu_num_1:"No BCS conference wants BYU (with the possible
exception of the Big East)"You're half right. It's
true that no BCS conference wants the cougars, but that INCLUDES the Big East.
The Big East wanted Boise St. Boise St. balked at the thought of all that
travel, and insisted on another Western partner. It was BSU that bullied the
Big East into extending the cougars an invite, but the cougars blew it by
believing they were desirable enough to issue all sorts of unreasonable demands.
As a result, the Big East was able to negotiate ANOTHER Western team to appease
the Broncos: San Diego St.Now that the Big East has BSU, there is
no real incentive to re-invite the cougars. And ESPECIALLY not after the manner
in which the cougs burned their bridges. Air Force will likely get another
go-around due to Navy's decision to join. And once the Middies are in, the
Big East will be at 13 teams. Air Force would be the 14th, but if AFA declines,
look to them extending offers to either Southern Mississippi or Fresno St. to
balance out the conference. Not the Y.
@ Mount Olympus.You got it right. BYU looked very shaky until they
beat up on the weak opponents of November. Suddenly, I hear BYU fans claiming
they were better than Utah despite losing 54-10. We have a better record they
would say. it doesn't wash. The Utes had a schedule in the PAC 12. Yes, the
conference was down, but not to the level of the Big Sky opponents in November
for BYU.@ Informed Voter.I agree it was 'the higher
ups' as you say, that "misjudged the situation". I don't know
how much you place blame on Bronco or Holmoe (some is needed though). I do think
the higher ups are not always as inspired as many BYU convince themselves they
are. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if things work out in BYU's
best interest in a year or two. I understand that leaving the
Mountain West was needed. Even as a Ute fan, I was a little confused (to some
degree) that BYU didn't leave the conference even before Utah joined the
PAC 12. However, independence is a tough road to credibility vs. exposure.
Something will have to give.
CougMan in SD - I think you overrate the importance of BYUtv. Simply because
it's free in your TV package doesn't mean you're a BYU fan.
BYU can't survive in a conference in which it doesn't set the
rules.Deloss Dodds already controls the rule setting function in the
Big 12.BYU over played its hand, overestimated its value, and has
isolated itself from the mainstream of college athletics and now has nowhere to
Sports Fan from Orem- your stats and numbers and points are stunning- did you
not realize that Rock's (as usual biased) list of awesome games this year
included Georgia Tech. Why is the U bowl game with Georgia Tech sneered at and
yet the season game with byu looked as a marquis game. And as usual, Rock
can't include the U as one of the "hard games" on the schedule even
after a U whooping last year and the high pre-season rating this year . Of
course byu fans will bring up the Colorado game to try to feel beter about their
One thing that doesn't seem to get mentioned when talking about BYUtv is
what a boon it must be for the Communications students at BYU to have hands-on
work experience in such a facility.
Apparently its that time of the month again.... Time to talk about BYU
conference affiliation or lack thereof.Here is what has been and
what will happen, nothing will change.BYU doesn't want to be in
a non-BCS conferenceNo BCS conference wants BYU (with the possible
exception of the Big East)Big East and BYU can't agree on TV
I think the Sunday play thing can be dealt with just as it has been in the past,
but I'm not so sure about the TV contracts. Conferences stay together by
insisting all the schools hand over their television rights. BYU doesn't
want to give those up for understandable reasons. That's the problem that
needs to be solved. I get the impression that BYU is over-playing
its hand in these negotiations. They think they hold all the cards which they
don't. The real drama this summer is whether BYU is willing to compromise
or if they keep thinking they're such a valuable "brand" that a
major conference will do everything on BYU's terms.
When are my fellow BYU fans going to admit that BYU is not a research
institution.That was a key decision in not being invited to the Pac 12.
AFCoug,You say, "The Big east allows them to stay competitive
and get a BCS berth each year."Utah and TCU were able to get to
BCS bowls, twice each, while they were conference-mates of the Cougars. Why
couldn't BYU get over the hump and do it? What makes you so certain that
they would be able to win the Big East "each year" if they joined that
conference?You say, "I really do not want to see BYU become a
whipping boy for Texas and Oklahoma like Utah has become for the PAC-12
schools."While Utah won't replace USC as the perennial
power in the Southern Division of the Pac 12, there's no reason they should
be the conference's "whipping boy."Most unbiased
observers don't judge Utah's inaugural season in the Pac 12 as harshly
as you do.Competition is about measuring yourself against quality
opponents, not aspiring to sneak onto the biggest stage from the back door.Finally, why not try to "stay competitive" by improving your
team, rather than seeking to once again be the big fish in the littlest pond
available?The Big 12 would be a better fit.
For the past year all we have heard out of Provo and the BYU AD is how
independence was so great. This sentiment has been echoed by BYU fans
consistently, having even gone as far as designating a day celebrating
independent status. What went so wrong that BYU nation is now divided concerning
The Big lEast will not be a BCS Conference after the next evaluation period,
even with Boise State added. They are not nearly as strong as the old MWC with
Utah, BYU, and TCU. No way, BYU would consider the Big lEast.
Here we go again.Homers will claim that they like Independence due
to its "exposure." Yet those same homers get really excited every time
even a hint of a rumor about BYU joining a conference surfaces.The
ship has sailed and those homers are left standing on the dock. Always a
bridesmaid, never a bride. Uninvited and unwanted. Par for the course.
I believe I am one of the few fans that likes the Big East over the Big 12 or
independence. The reasons are several but I really do not want to see BYU
become a whipping boy for Texas and Oklahoma like Utah has become for the PAC-12
schools. The Big east allows them to stay competative and get a BCS berth each
year. Now that BSU and SDSU are in it also gives them some local rivalries.
With Houston and Boise St the Big East upgraded from the likes of Syracuse and
Pitt. WVU was a bad loss but BYU could make up for that. Schedules would be
easier and a championship game would be fun in the Texas/NY area. granted the
Big East has a ways to go on TV money but with BYU, and BSU in the mix it should
improve. Another exicitng thought is a cooperation on the B-ball side with BYU
making a couple trips East each year and bringing the likes of a UConn to the
Marriott Center. That would be huge!! Big East should add AF and BYU, form a
West and East Division and improve on where they were.
BYU's desire for indy status and the resulting "exposure" have
combined to hinder BYU's ability to be invited to a BCS conference. The whole "exposure" thing has given BYU the notion that
late-night ESPN games and BYUtv games are the only way to get the church-owned
school's "message" out to the masses. This view fails to recognize
that mention of BYU is now absent from the national conversation after October
1. And while some power conferences that are looking to shore up their own
relevance would love to have BYU's fan base, even conceding no-Sunday play,
they know that as an indy BYU will always be available. So, those conferences
can take their time about extending an invite until BYU comes off its high
horse, i.e. inordinate demands to keep all their broadcast rights. In the
meantime BYU's fans will get noticeably more irritated at seeing WAC
leftovers scheduled at 8:00pm in late November. If they quit buying tickets
and/or quit watching BYUtv, perhaps then the BYU brass might wake up. Here's hoping the B12 doesn't get tired of waiting.
Its funny to see the comments of all the BYU fans who think that going indy was
a bad idea. Have you so quickly forgotten where we were? I guess the grass
always looks greener on the other side of the fence. The problem is that people
aren't comparing where BYU is now to where BYU was, but to where Utah is
now. Utah got a sweet deal (and they deserved it and I think they will shine in
the pac 12). BYU saw the writing on the wall and did a brilliant job of getting
off a sinking ship. To say that BYU made a bad decision by going independent is
completely insane. MWC was a mess. Despite the obstacles, BYU scored a great
TV deal. It is insane how much they accomplished in such a short time.
I'm not sure that independence is the best for long-term, but because of
the choice to go independent BYU is now in a great position to join a conference
on their terms. I've been impressed with the level-headed approach of
Holmoe and his vision that is greater than just being BCS right now.
TJ:"Utah, BSU, TCU, Hawaii and others have been able to play a
couple of good teams, a few solid teams and a bunch of weak teams, go undefeated
and reach a BCS game. BYU won a National Championship with the same type of
schedule."Our little brothers most certainly did NOT win a
Nat'l Championship playing that type of schedule. Back in '84, they
played absolutely NO good teams, Air Force and Hawai'i, and a bunch of
teams that ranged anywhere weak to pathetic. Hawai'i was the only
BCS-buster that finished the season having beaten no ranked teams, and when
faced with a REAL opponent [not some mediocre .500 team down to playing their
4th-string QB]. And BECAUSE they played a REAL opponent, they were exposed as
the frauds they were, and only rose to their pre-Sugar Bowl heights due to
playing weak SOS; like the 1984 cougs did [less the ranked bowl team].Hawai'i unworthily backed into the BCS just as the team down South did so
likewise in backing in to their mythical, most controversial title in the
history of American College Football.
Leaving the mtn was reason enough to go independent. As a Cougar Fan, I am very
happy to be out of that fiasco. Now we need a conference. I'm hopeful the
Big 12 can be done. The Big East is weak and won't be in the BCS for long.
It's sad that slowly and surely the BCS is eliminating any and all
competition. The move by the Big 10 (12) and the Pac 12 shows the grand scheme
of things. I only wish that BYU and Utah would have been the "package
deal" the Pac 12 would have taken. Someday, the Pac 12 will regret that
decision. I'm very sad that BYU vs Utah will be a thing of the past. A
GREAT rivalry gone. So, I'm hoping for the Big 12 within the next year or
so. Hopefully that will happen. In the mean time, it's sad to see poor
November games. But September and October will be GREAT! And...at least I can
watch the Cougs on ESPN instead of regular definition mtn. That makes it worth
I'm a 40 year cougar die-hard now living in SD. Leaving the MTN and doing
BYUtv was the best thing to happen to build the Cougar fan base. Yes, we should
be in the Big 12 (but NOT the Big East). The only way to get in there, with the
NO Sunday play baggage, is to bull your way in with one of two ways; 1) Be a
perennial top 5 team, like Boise State has done in recent years, or 2) get your
core fan base up to 1,000,000. Before BYUtv was implemented, our fan base was
710,000 (Utahs 352,000, Louisville 310,000, Boise 483,000, TCU 370,000). BYUtv
has had a huge impact on bringing back the San Diego LDS viewers, and I got to
believe it's had that kind of impact across the country. When those TV
surveys are done again, I wouldn't be surprised if BYU IS above the
1,000,000 mark. With so few programs about that mark (only two even in the Pac
12 and four in the Big 12), THAT is how you get noticed by the BCS conferences
and make it so the can't afford to NOT have you.
Snack PAC said "your quote from Barry Trammel is several months old."You're saying BYU's ho-hum attitude towards joining the Big 12
has changed?I am a Big 12 fan. I've never seen the advantage
to inviting BYU other than they are independent and theoretically free of pesky
exit clauses. Other than that, there are too many negatives, like television.
The DNews comments are often filled with Cougar fans who think it makes complete
sense that BYU keep all their ESPN/BYUtv rights while the Big 12 works out its
own deal for the other 11 members. That's just silly. You're either
a partner or you're not.
Those involved in decisions regarding BYU's future ought to, as SoonerUte
suggested, practice a little humility. They thought the major conferences would
all be anxious to bring them on board. That has proven to be completely not
true.BYU's move to the WCC for non-football sports (which I
initially viewed as a blunder) has been a good thing. The Y fits the conference
well.For football, I highly doubt any major conference will take
BYU. There's clearly not enough interest. Instead, I expect them to end up
in a yet-to-be organized conference made up of moderate left-over schools. They
will not end up in an AQ conference. Otherwise, it would have happened by
now.But the school's admin can continue dreaming they'll
one day be part of the big leagues. And dreaming is half the fun. But, if they
were humble, they'd come down to earth and gratefully accept what
Sadly, I agree that BYU has to find a conference. The Big12 is the logical best
choice. Like Utah in the PAC12, BYU in the Big12 would be middle of the pack,
but at least they'd have meaningful games in November. I think BYU's
recruiting from the midwest and south would boosted by a Big12 affiliation.The Big East is a hoops conference. The football teams aren't a
step up from the old 16-team WAC.Let's get 'er done and
join the Big 12.
@Snack Pac"It's laughable, but understandable, how paranoid
our little brothers remain about BYU's conference affiliation."______________What's laughable is you thinking Utah fans are
paranoid when we have nothing to be paranoid about ... let's try to
remember that Utah's already in a BCS conference and VERY happy.
@BlueSaint"We all know that Politics and Bigotry is what is
keeping BYU out"________________You forgot one ... ego.
@Utah'95; You hit the nail right on the head, but it isn't incessant
TV demands that BYU is making that is keeping them out of the Big 12, but rather
some of the politics with a few in LDS Church senior leadership have been the
biggest stumbling block over the years have prevented BYU from moving up in
league affiliation since a few do not want BYU to morph into more of a
graduate/research institution and thereby further make Utah State in the same
level of academic relevance as Utah Valley, Weber State or Southern Utah
Universities. BYU has already significantly reduced Utah State's athletic
relevance, as well as taken from them academically the higher end of the
undergraduate crop of would-be students every year for nearly the past half
century. There are some who have fought this notion of BYU moving up in league
affiliation for over the past 20 years, but if Utah State finds its way into the
MWC it might be the last piece the Cougars need to be able to give the Big 12 a
green light for an invitation.
The best hope is probably to go hat in hand back to the MWC. The so called Big
East would be a Big Mistake for BYU. The PAC will never take BYU for political
reasons. The BIGs are not going to give the Cougars any kind of TV deal.
Sunday play is a big issue as well. We need to wait until there is a major
change in conferences that might open the door for BYU. Until then, we can
always have a weak November schedule.
I believe that the BYU leadership almost always does things right, but they made
a mistake when they went independent in football.When Utah left for
the Pac 12, BYU acted too fast. They should have waited to see what would
happen as the deck was shuffled, rather than declaring independence. Now, not
even two seasons removed from that decision, it is obvious that football
independence isn't what many of you hoped it would be.BYU has
not negotiated well in the last few months with the Big-12 and Big East. ESPN
pointed out that the Cougars are demanding TV rights that "no other college
football program has." As a LDS, I understand BYU's unique status and
"mission." But most non-Mormons don't, and BYU's demands come
across as arrogant to many who are watching.BYU
can't/won't consider changing their "won't play on
Sunday" stance, but they should rethink their TV rights stance.BYU would be better served in a BCS conference. Holmoe should work hard to
get into the Big 12. It's where the Cougars belong.Good luck,
Cougars - except when you play my Utes!
Mr Rock never said anything about money. His "slurs" of BYU slogans are
cute but he seemed to forget that a major reason for not joining the Big East
was the huge cut in pay BYU would have to take when they lost third tier and
re-broadcast rights for BYUtv. BYUtv is a growing entity. It is not perfect
yet, but it still needs to be included in school's future, not abandoned.
My hope was that BYU would be independent for 2-4 years and take advantage of
the BCS opportunity like the other mid-major teams did. Utah, BSU, TCU, Hawaii
and others have been able to play a couple of good teams, a few solid teams and
a bunch of weak teams, go undefeated and reach a BCS game. BYU won a National
Championship with the same type of schedule. None of the above teams would have
had much of a chance of getting to a BCS game if they had been playing in the
SEC, Big 12, Big 10 or even a middle of the pac BCS conference. Not sure
BYU has the elite QB talent needed to go undefeated this year but I think they
will be very competitive in all their games and should have another a very good
season. I have to say that after looking at BYU's November
schedule this season, I am hoping they can get into the BIG 12 for 2013.
Patience.In this age of instant gratification, it's interesting
to see how grown people, who likely try to teach their children patience,
display the traits they wish their children to avoid.There have been
some insightful comments on the topic, some not so much. Rock was having a slow
day trying to meet his column deadline. I didn't read anything new. But I
might have missed it.In the midst of Big Ten country, I am extremely
grateful to have BYU football to watch almost every week to counter the Big Ten
frenzy I see (and actually like sometimes). But my heart belongs to the Cougars.
Patience. Nothing is as constant as change.
If BYU is going to be serious about their athletic programs and playing on the
stage many of their fans have sought for years, then it is time as well that
perhaps they become more of the advanced "research" degree supporting
school they have been more than capable of? It seems senior leaders have
debated this for a long time, and now perhaps athletics are bringing it to a
head. But if BYU were to become a larger research as opposed to teaching
institution wouldn't that further diminish the relevance of Utah State
University both academically as well as athltetically? It seems that's
been going on for the past half century now, yet some have held out hope that
they could bring the Aggies back to life should they hold the Cougars back.
SoonerUteNice try, but your quote from Barry Trammel is several
months old and anyone who's paid any attention at all to conference
realignment knows how attitudes and opinions on which teams are "in" and
which teams are "out" changes almost daily.It's
laughable, but understandable, how paranoid our little brothers remain about
BYU's conference affiliation.
When Independence was announced I was looking forward to Army, Navy, and Notre
Dame in November. Now those guys are mostly running for the exits on
Independence and I don't see a November schedule as an Independent that is
any better than being in a Ute-less WAC/MWC. November has only really had the
UTE game and has been ho-hum otherwise. The conundrum is things as an
independent are better than anything BYU has ever had, conferences are always
trying to make the box smaller for its affiliated members (have-nots complaining
about the haves and trying to make everyone happy isn't easy - so pretty
much everyone is miserable). Unless BYU gets into the Big12 the prospects
aren't good. I will miss the good games in November but I have to remember
we never had them anyway, except for one. Might be that was what made the
rivalry in the first place.
Look....Why doesn't BYU just pay their way into a BCS Conference? If Money
is all these Conferences care about, then let Money do all the talking for BYU.
We all know that Politics and Bigotry is what is keeping BYU out. BYU is one of
only a few that can Financially back their own destiny. Get it done, and lets
move on from this Independence fiasco. Work out a deal so BYU can still utilize
their broadcasting building, and get this done!
One year almost completed and I hear complaints already? Big 12 would be smart
if they allow BYUtv to broacast live worldwide. Why join the BIG LEAST? Sure
November is boring time of the year and we didn't start out some cupcakes
games in September. So, just stay put for a little longer with Ind.
BYUtv is good but not great. they have a very limited lineup of shows and then
they repeat them an inordinate number of times! byu should think of
the paying fans and how many they lose by playing 8pm games in October/November
vs. the very few (in comparison) who tune in around the world.
Well, it has only taken a little over a year for the Cougars to finally start to
admit that going independent was not the best idea. After throwing the rest of
the programs to the wind, the AD is finally starting to understand reality. This
independent thing should have been thought through alot more before they jumped.
Remember, always time to do it over, never time to do it right - BYU moto.
Being an out-of-state BYU fan, having the Cougars be independent and watching
the games on ESPN or BYUTV definitely beat having to pay extra each month for
the Mountain Channel. Whichever direction the BYU administration decides to go,
I hope it doesn't limit TV access to BYU Sports the way it was before. A
deal with a BCS Conference needs to include full use of BYUTV and hopefully
continuous exposure through ESPN.
Barry Trammel, an Oklahoma newswriter, WAS a supporter of adding BYU to the Big
12. But he recently wrote about BYU's apparent attitude towards joining
the Big 12 "I think that makes BYU a longshot. I think the Big 12 enjoyed
the jubilation we saw in Fort Worth and Morgantown over TCU and West Virginia
joining the conference. I don’t think the Big 12 wants someone who is
lukewarm about the conference."Passing on the Big East
didn't help. Look how Brad Rock phrases it "...at worst, the Big
East".That's great to think of yourselves as "the Notre
Dame of the West", but things aren't looking good for the Irish. The
Sporting News recently wrote about Notre Dame not getting special considerations
in revising the BCS. If it's harder for them to get BCS money all to
themselves, they may finally join a conference.If they want to be
included in a conference, the Cougars should try a combination of humility and
Molehill Oly"Play a Tulsa type team in bowl, and win in a close
one.Extremely boring. Join a conference!"Final
Sagarin Ratings#34 BYU#35 Tulsa (BYU's bowl opponent)#39 Utah#56 Georgia Tech (Utah's bowl opponent)BOTH
non-AQ partipants in the Armed Forces Bowl finished higher than either
AQ-conference participant in the Sun Bowl.Get over your
short-sighted conference arrogance. It's laughable how quickly Utah fans
have switched from whining about not being given a chance to play for a national
championship in 2004 and 2008, but now claim that conference affiliation is all
that matters.btw, wasn't Utah destroyed in the Las Vegas Bowl
by a WAC team?
Whatever the future of BYU football brings, things are much better now than they
were under the tyranny of the MTN.
Independence isn't a long term solution, but it was worth it short term to
escape The Mtn, which, incidently is going out of business, as most suspected it
would as soon as BYU left the MWC.Except for a few years when we
lived on the East Coast, I've been a season ticket holder since Cougar
Stadium was expanded, just in time to leave the student section. I now attend
games with my son who was only a few months old when he and I attended our first
bowl game - the Miracle Bowl.BYU fans who complain about the
scheduling difficulties of being an Independent need to wake up and be grateful
that BYU no longer has to put up with the ineptness that is Hair Thompson.
Informed,Now that you're not renewing your ticket order your no
longer have to worry about keeping up the image of being an avid fan. Instead
you can just pretend to be interested like your neighbors who grab a red shirt
and think they are now in the club.
Ya think?Go Utes!
Today I told the ticket office I was not renewing my season tickets. Last year I
thought the powers that be thought they did not need a conference affiliation
believing TV exposure was more important. If I was right, they discounted the
importance of paying fans. Now it appears it is realized they dearly need a
conference. If there are any more 8:00PM games, I will watch them on TV. I do
not blame Holmoe or Bronco...I think the higher ups misjudged the situation and
took fans for granted. I have been an avid BYU football fan for over 30 years.
Same old story.BYU will struggle through September and October when
they play some decent teams.In November, after beating Idaho, San
Jose State, and New Mexico state they will think they have a great team.Play a Tulsa type team in bowl, and win in a close one.Extremely boring. Join a conference!