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Published: Thursday, April 5 2012 12:00 a.m. MDT

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John Charity Spring
Back Home in Davis County, UT

To legalize drugs would be to surrender to lawlessness and anarchy. No patriotic American could support such a position.

When a person uses drugs, he cannot hold a steady job for long. He then turns to crime to support himself. That is why the vast majority of forgeries, thefts, and identity frauds are drug related. Legalizing drugs would cause the rates of these crimes to explode.

Drug addiction absolutely destroys health. Legalization would ruin the health of many times more people. This create an immense burden on society.

We cannot give up on fighting evil simply because it is hard. Our fight against rape and murder hasn't been 100% effective, should we give up fighting those crimes as well?

Esquire
Springville, UT

I am torn on this. Legalizing marijuana has its downside. The problem is, how much of a downside? It is widely used today and I have doubts that legalizing it will make that much difference in terms of copnsumption. It seems that there is at least a medicinal use that has value. How much are we spending on interdiction that could be money better spent elsewhere? But the biggest problem with current policy might be in how we handle the issue in the judicial/penal system. The U.S. has the highest incarceration rate in the world at 737 per 100,000. It is not even close. Number two is Rwanda at 595 per 100,000. Russia, with all its problems is at 535 per 100,000. The next closest major Western nation is the U.K. with a rate of 156 per 100,000. Are we as a people that bad when compared to the rest of the world, or is our system so messed up that we throw too many people into jail? It's one or the other. There is so much more to say on this issue - just no space. Pity.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "Esquire" lets look at the things that you have not considered.

First, there currently is a leagal form of Marijuana that is available with a prescription only, it is called marinol. It contains the active medicinal ingredients, and does not have as many bad side effects as its illegal counterpart.

Next, you assume that law enforcement is the same in other nations as it is in the US. You forget that in places like Russia and the UK, they allow more crime to go unpunished. Are you saying that you would like to see more anarchy in the US, and allow people to pick and choose which laws to obey?

Midvaliean
MIDVALE, UT

The war on drugs has its downside too. Imprisoning people at a rate higher than Communist China, or Stalin's Russia, America loves to put people in jail, because the war on drugs is a business for unsavory types that milk our tax dollars to incarcerate our friends and family.

Legalization is the RIGHT thing to do. Just as we all don't drink Hard Liquor every morning just because its available, people wont' be doing drugs just because they can. News flash: People already use drugs. If you don't drink ask yourself why. Then ask the same question of drugs.

There are those who use drugs and those who don't. Being illegal just makes those who use them subject to draconian laws.

Portugal has legalized ALL drugs for over a decade now. The results are easy to access. Look them up. It is a raging success.

Our government has done us the disservice of lying to you about the effects and problems concerning drug use. Find out for yourself, instead of reading lies and exaggerations propagated by big brother.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Legalize it,
Tax it.
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@RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

Nice try Red – but you are so easy to prove wrong, again….
Why would a drug be synthetically produced in order to create the same effects of something that occurs naturally in nature and can be taken just as easily?

BTW – Marinol DOES have side-effects, WORSE side-effects:
COMMON side effects when using Marinol:
Confusion; decreased coordination; dizziness; drowsiness; elevated or relaxed mood; headache; nausea; stomach pain; trouble concentrating; vomiting; weakness.
Seek medical attention right away if any of these SEVERE side effects occur when using Marinol:
Severe allergic reactions (rash; hives; itching; difficulty breathing; tightness in the chest; swelling of the mouth, face, lips, or tongue); abnormal thinking; behavioral changes; fast or irregular heartbeat; hallucinations; memory problems; mental or mood changes (eg, feelings of anxiety, depression, detachment, panic, paranoia); seizures; severe or persistent dizziness; vision changes.

Medical Marijuana contains nearly 60 cannabinoids, some of which have potential in killing pain and reducing inflammation. Marinol contains only 1 active cannabinoid, dronabinol.

But BIG Pharmaceuticals can’t make any $$$ with a natural God given product.

It’s all about $$$ - Legal or Illegal.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Did ending the prohibition on alcohol decrease the number of alcoholics or did it produce more alcoholics? Therein lays your answer to legalizing drugs! There is a reason its called “dope”!

Esquire
Springville, UT

@ RedShirt, a smarter penal system is anarchy? The U.K. is more law abiding than we are, by far. Russia is hardly in anarchy. Theoretically, it is under tighter state control than the U.S. I'm sorry, your arguments are nonsense.

Midvaliean
MIDVALE, UT

@Red Shirt
Absolutely I would like to see more "so called crime" go unpunished. If by unpunished you mean the government doesn't ruin lives with unjust jail sentences that are unequal based on class/wealth.
The whole point is we are people who had drugs. This doesn't mean anything other than they had a drug. They might have been an addict, they might have been a sorry soul self medicating. Why do you feel the need for them to sit in jail. What in the world makes people want other to rot in jail, for using things like marijuana? Because of some sense that you are a law abiding citizen and all other not like you should be imprisoned?
What is wrong with a fine ($$) rather than jail everyone? Why jail? Do tell.

UT Brit
London, England

@Redshirt

"You forget that in places like Russia and the UK, they allow more crime to go unpunished."

Complete garbage Redshirt, I take it you have never been to the UK or lived there?

CLM
Draper, UT

Laws prohibiting drugs, unjust in principle and lacking efficiency in practice, punish the wrong people, encourage police harassment and racial profiling, waste huge amounts of taxpayer dollars...and can give only an illusion that the illicit drug pestilence is being brought under control.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "LDS Liberal" I think that it is easier to take the pill form of marijuana than it is to smoke it. If you want to talk side effects, be honest and look at the side effects of smoking Marijuana too. Lets see, accoring to various web sites, the side effects include, euphoria and anxiety, motor control is disrupted, increased appetite, long-term cannabis consumption to increase risk for schizophrenia, bipolar disorders, and major depression, increased likelyhood of developing testicular cancer, and damage to the endocrine system. There are possible links to long term memory problems and smoking marijuana. Chronic marijuana use can lead to increased sensitivity to chest colds, bronchitis, emphysema, and bronchial asthma. Regular use can delay the onset of puberty in young men and reduce sperm production. For women, regular use may disrupt normal monthly menstrual cycles and inhibit ovulation.

It seems that smoking marijuana has more side effects than the pill form.

To "Midvaliean" would you rather have the drug addict put into jail and forced into a rehab program, or are you going to take the junkie's word that he is in rehab?

To "UT_Brit" according to the UK CCJS, I am correct.

Midvaliean
MIDVALE, UT

@red shirt
I wager that most people in jail for drugs are not "addicts" in the sense you think of a heroin junkie robbing a liquor store. They are people who may or may not have a drug problem. Cost analysis of keeping them in prison vs trying to help they recover from addition with good life skills is dramatically in favor of keeping them out of prison. Until you realize red shirt what kind of business the prison system, you won't get why its so disgusting.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "Midvaliean" I am sure that most of the drug users in prision can quit anytime they want. I am sure that is what they have been saying for a long time now.

To sumarize what you are saying. You say that most people in prision for drugs are not "addicts", and that leting them give you their word that they can clean themselves up is good enough for you.

Tell us, would you want a house full of people that use Marijuana living next to you, even if they just use is for recreation?

Would you allow a person to sell Oxycotin or Morphine in an unregulated market? Look at the article and the consequences of the current legal drugs. Are you saying that you wouldn't mind making more mood altering substances that are more potent drugs available because the fact that 50% of criminal violence and car accident cases are due directly to alcohol is a problem.

Do you hate society, and why do you want to introduce another societal toxin that will further erode society, and get more people into prision?

Midvaliean
MIDVALE, UT

@Red Shirt
Legalization would not be introducing anything into the market. Fact is Red Shirt alcohol provides us with a model of what will happen. The vast majority of drinkers are responsible. So are the vast majority of drug users. Your comments give away the fact that you know nothing about drugs in general, and only what the media has told you.
Chances are if you use drugs you won't go to jail, you wont' become an addict. Most drug users never see behind bars, or the walls of a rehab, because most people dont' fit the profile of the lies spewed by those wishing to keep drugs illegal.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

@RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT
To "LDS Liberal" I think that it is easier to take the pill form of marijuana than it is to smoke it.
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Not if the very reason you are given a prescription for it is for Nausea and Vomiting!
Marinol is the size of a huge vitamin.
So much for the treatment of Cancer patients who can’t eat, drink, or swallow, and vomit everything that enters their stomachs.

Corn Dog
New York, NY

Marijuana, an illegal drug, is the second biggest reason people seek drug treatment. Does anyone seriously believe that legalizing pot will make those problems that cause people to seek treatment go away?

Shaun
Sandy, UT

It may come a surprise to most of you but there are people you know right now that smoke marijuana and they go to work and function as productive member of society.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "LDS Liberal" there are many other drugs that do not have the side effects of Marijuana that can do what you say. There is a classification for those drugs called antiemetics. Drugs such as Dolasetron can be administered via injection. The companies that manufacture the Chemotherapy drugs are reformulating their drugs so that they prevent nausea. Also FYI marinol comes in a liquid and powder form. The injectable form of marinol is called Sumatriptan. So, do you have another argument against it that actually isn't so easily disproven?

To "Midvaliean" so the fact that 50% of all incarcerations involving violence due to alcohol doesn't seem like a problem? So what you are saying is that if we legalize marijuana we can expect to see an increase in crimes involving violence. Tell us why that is a good thing? Also if alcohol is such a non-issue, why is it that it such a contributing factor into so many of society's ills?

Hank Pym
SLC, UT

per John Charity Spring 8:02 a.m. April 5, 2012

"When a person uses drugs, he cannot hold a steady job for long."

Really? I work for a major global corporation and they give a drug away for free.

Mind you, the caffeine comes in a can w/ carmel coloring and nutrasweet or HFCS.

UT Brit
London, England

@Redshirt

No the punishment is different but they do get punished.

You have a far higher incarceration rate in the US and you have a higher re-offending rate. These are not signs of a good justice system.

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