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Published: Tuesday, April 3 2012 11:51 p.m. MDT

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Snack PAC
Olympus Cove, Utah

@KH

"if Utah had BYU's schedule last year, Utah would at least have an 11-2 record..."

wishful thinking

If Utah had had BYU's schedule, Utah would have had at least 5 losses, losing to Texas, TCU and Tulsa and splitting with UCF, Utah St, Hawaii and Ole Miss, all ranked higher than that pathetic Colorado team that beat the Utes in RES.

#17 Texas
#20 TCU
#35 Tulsa
#77 Central Florida
#80 Utah State
#97 Hawaii
#103 Ole Miss
#107 Colorado

On the other hand, if BYU had Utah's schedule, the Cougars would have won the PAC 12 South with an 11-2 record, losing only to USC and either California or Arizona State (both ranked lower than the Tulsa team BYU beat in their bowl game.

#12 USC
#35 Tulsa
#38 California
#41 Arizona State
#44 Washington
#56 Georgia Tech
#64 Arizona
#66 UCLA
#83 Wash St
#87 Oregon St
#107 Colorado
#69 Pittsburgh
#69 Pittsburgh

BYU's 10-3 record was good enough to get the Cougars into the Top 25, which is something to brag about, unlike the Ute's, who finished unranked, as usual.

Rock Of The Marne
Phoenix, AZ

BYU fan illogic makes me laugh every time. Face it guys you're a mid major WAC football team and WCC member for everything else; nobody outside your fan base is impressed by that. Your football team (the most important sport to most) got beat six ways from Sunday by the Utes who had they not taken pity on the hapless DIV II looking cougs could have easily put up 70 plus points; in the last decade your team has won a whopping 30% of its games aginst the Utes come November now September; not to mention a 21 game series lead that will never fall. So your baseball team won a game, big wow, they're certinatly not Baseball powers like some in the PAC-12. Reality is a good thing Y fan, I encourage you to embrace it.

Snack PAC
Olympus Cove, Utah

pebbles

BYU fans have nothing on the illogic of Utah fans who somehow think that finishing 4-5 in football, 3-15 in basketball, in any conference, let alone a "power" conference, impresses ANYBODY.

BYU finished in the Top 25 in football AND played in the NCAA basketball tournament for the FIFTH time in the last six years; Utah has only been able to do that FOUR times in their ENTIRE HISTORY.

Utah fans will soon learn that being a perennial bottom dweller in a power conference doesn't mean diddly.

LonestarRunner
Salt Lake City, UT

Pebble of Marne

"So your baseball team won a game, big wow,..."

BYU didn't just win A baseball game, the Cougars have beaten the Utes in just about every sport they've played.

Women's Soccer - BYU 5, Utah 0
Women's Volleyball - BYU 3, Utah 0
Football - Utah 54, BYU 10
Men's Basketball - BYU 61, Utah 42
Women's Basketball - BYU 63, Utah 58
Women's Swimming - BYU 162, Utah 138
Men's Swimming - BYU 161, Utah 139
Women's Gymnastics - Utah 197.55, BYU 194.45
Men's Tennis - BYU 5, Utah 2
Women's Tennis - Utah 5, BYU 2
Baseball - BYU 9, Utah 8
Baseball - BYU 9, Utah 6

Of the 12 head-to-head contests between BYU and Utah,

BYU 9
Utah 3

BYU has won the Deseret Duel four out of five times.

And the above list doesn't even include Track & Field, Cross-Country, Men's Volleyball, Golf, and Rugby, all sports in which BYU has won at least one National Championship.

Any way you slice it, BYU's overall athletic program is superior to Utah's.

KH
Holladay, UT

@ Snack Pack

"On the other hand, if BYU had Utah's schedule, the Cougars would have won the PAC 12 South with an 11-2 record, losing only to USC and either California or Arizona State"

Actually, if byu had Utah's schedule last year then they would still have to play Utah. So according to your logic they would have lost to USC, either California or Arizona State, and Utah. Don't you remember that game in September where Utah beat byu by 44 points. That game still would have happened had the schedules been reversed.

You are now trying to pretend like an actual game never happened.

Snack PAC
Olympus Cove, Utah

KH

I also remember that game in November when Utah lost to a pathetic Colorado team.

By the end of the season, BYU was the better team, as the final rankings attest.

KH
Holladay, UT

Snack Pac

Oh that's funny. A byu fan resorts to talking trash about Utah losing to Colorado because she can't talk trash about Utah losing to byu.

"By the end of the season, BYU was the better team, as the final rankings attest."

Go ahead and believe that if you will. I obviously won't be able to change your mind. I'll just go to sleep knowing that byu lost to Utah by 44 points and now byu's fans are feeling great about their program because the last 3/4 of their schedule they beat up on the nation's weakest teams.

The Utah byu game is played for a reason. The winner of that game is the better team that year, especially when it is a blowout.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@kh

So by your logic colorado is the better team as well? Oh wait, that sort of utah "fan" logic is only in play when you think it benefits utah.

LOL!

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@pebbles

BYU continues to dominate, yes that is correct "DOMINATE", utah across the board in athletics. utah seldom wins a head to head matchup with BYU in the vast majority of sports, and when I say seldom it means very, very rarely.

LOL!

KH
Holladay, UT

According to byu fans, it seems that every year Utah beats byu in football, byu was the better team and got snubbed by the refs or improved over the season and was the better team by the end of the season. That argument kind of gets old when Utah has won 7 of the last 10 meetings between the two teams and 2 of those wins have lead to undefeated seasons and BCS bowl wins.

Just give credit where credit is due. Utah won. Bronco agrees with me that byu fans are not the most educated fans about football, especially when you try to argue that byu was better than Utah after getting beat by Utah by 44 points.

Rockwell
Baltimore, MD

KH

The argument only gets old (for Utah fans) because it's true.

The gold standard for judging the overall success of a season is final Top 25 rankings... it's ironic, therefor, that the only time Utah fans give any credence to Top 25 rankings is when Utah is ranked or when Utah beats a ranked team.

Top 25 Rankings During the Bronco/Kyle era

BYU 5
Utah 3

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