Re: L Kaiser REDMOND, WA"And yet weeks ago we were blaming WA state
authorities for dropping the ball"It was Washington State and
not Utah that allowed Josh Powell to take the lives of his two boys.
Anyone who has criticized police and prosecutors should be ashamed of
themselves. These critics obviously have no understanding of trial by jury.These critics obviously do not remember the Casey Anthony trial. There
was overwhelming evidence of guilt in that case, far more than in this case. And
yet, the jury found her not guilty. The same would have happened to Josh Powell
had the athorities given into pressure and filed a premature case.For anyone who says everyone should have known that Josh Powell would murder
his children, I have one question for you: why weren't you there waiting on
the doorstep to stop it?
ExDixieIte is right. If West Valley had prosecuted, Powell would've been
acquitted. Every bit of "evidence" in this case has reasonable doubt all
over it. Can you say Casey Anthony?
Look, I'm not an attorney and I can mount a defense for Josh Powell even
though I think he is 100% guilty. 1. Can you prove beyond a
reasonable doubt that Susan Powell is dead?2. Can you prove beyond a
reasonable doubt that the blood found in the home came from her death and not an
accident? 3. Can you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Josh
didn't decide to clean the carpets, hence the dryers?4. Can you
prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he didn't go camping that night? If you can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt any of the above then
a just jury would not convict Josh Powell. I laud the West Valley police and
the city's and the county's DA's office for not filing charges
where there was not indisputable and unquestionable evidence against Josh Powell
that would have resulted in his conviction. Washington authorities
had no reason to say, "We would have filed charges". Irresponsible.
Now if only they would have done a better job supervising visits.Sad
all around but the Utah prosecutors were right.
I agree with Kirk Graves, Greg Skordas.t702 says "Some folks
need to start new careers over this, and the law should be modified to prevent
this from ever happening again."Why? Do we now require law enforcement
to be mind readers? I doubt any critics could have done a better job. I doubt
any critics have access to all of the facts.Anyone who blames WVC
for the deaths, should themselves start new careers if theirs involves thinking
at any substantial level. As rblack said so poignantly:"[T]he State
of Washington had all of this information. They also controlled his access to
his children. They were the ones that failed to protect the children. They had
the ability to act based on thier opinion of what was in the well being of the
children. They failed miserably."I am not ready to blame law
enforcement in Josh Powell's Washington town either, but it is quite
disingenuous, not to mention unprofessional, for law enforcement in Washington
(where Josh Powell was and where he murdered his children) to be blaming WVC.Josh Powell gets away with murder, and adults start blaming people for
what he did. Bizarre society.
Pierce County wanted these documents unsealed to take the heat off of them and
put it on WV. However, what I see is that WVPD still didn't have enough to
convict (so an arrest would have been pointless). These documents only make it
more clear that Pierce County had plenty of information to keep Charlie and
Braden away from Josh.
Jump to conclusions. Leap to judgement.I compliment NeilT from
Clearfield for stating the obvious. Neil is totally correct in his statement.Why do we tend to be so harsh without the knowledge of the facts or the
experience or those with the facts? West Valley Officers and County
Attorneys did, in my opinion, their jobs the way it should have been handled.
Moving too fast and making rash judgments tend to have tremendous costs in the
future. Yes, 2 innocent children died, but at the same time, what
would you be saying if Josh had been found innocent and later been discovered to
have indeed killed his wife???
What if he were charged and then acquited. Later Susan's remains were
found. Josh cannot be tried again. It is called double jeopardy. A good
defense attorney would have managed to get Josh acquitted.
He should have been charged and there are those who should be held accountable.
Further tragedy would have been prevented. What more evidence do you need? If
you are required to have the body for cases like this then our justice system is
not right. Very Sad.
Buzz Nielsen of the WV Police needs to be held accountable for bumbling his way
through this whole investigation. Finding the body will only establish cause of
death - at best. It won't shed any light on who did it. What are these
people thinking will come to light that we don't know already?The WVC Police have allowed themselves to be manipulated by Powell. I just
don't get it. At the very least he should have been charged with tampering
with evidence. And the police didn't even search their place for 2 or 3
days. I hope you people there are feeling safe with this group protecting you...
Bottom line, once they charge him, they have to proceed with prosecution. They
don't get the opportunity to say, "time out, we need a little bit more
evidence." Once they prosecute, they have to get a conviction. They
don't get to find the body 2 weeks after he is found, "not guilty,"
and then fix the problem. However, the State of Washington had all of this
information. They also controlled his access to his children. They were the ones
that failed to protect the children. They had the ability to act based on thier
opinion of what was in the well being of the children. They failed miserably.
Yes, there was alot of circumstantial evidence that he was guilty. He probably
was guilty. However, West Valley couldn't charge him on the basis of the
evidence that they had. The blood evidence, as was mentioned, could have
happened easily and does not indicate violence. Who would be able to accurately
testify as to the condition of the alleged victim after the meal prepared by
Josh Powell? Evidence of what the kids said to the primary teacher would be
dismissed as hearsay and would not have been presented in court. The alleged
statements by Josh Powell to the coworker might be dismissed as well as there is
no evidence that they are connected to an actual crime. It's like me
saying, "a 22 shell to the head can kill from a mile away." If there is
no body with said 22 shell in the head, does that really represent evidence that
I did or was going to commit a crime? A man has his wife's cell phone and
can't explain why he has it? I end up with my wife's cell phone
regularly. They look the same. Sometimes I even end up with mine too.
How can Skordas say that "nobody had an idea" that the kids could be
harmed. I'm sure his in-laws, his sisters, some of her friends, and
anybody with an 80 IQ could conclude that. West Valley Police just dropped the
ball and they should admit it.
And yet weeks ago we were blaming WA state authorities fot dropping the ball....
Im in shock at Utah authorities
I wonder if we are blaming the wrong organization. What about the prosecuting
attorney for WVC. It is their responsibility to prosecute.
Money, Money, Money. It costs money to put people on trial and the law
enforcement want confessions or use intimidation to negotiate justice rather
than a trial that can cost millions of dollars. It's not about the law and
trials by their peers, its about saving money with a walk in conviction to hand
over to the judge.Without a confession all the evidence was
circumstantial and hearsay that cannot convict. The police have cleave set loose
all this information to save face and take the heat of tier City and its police.
All their evidence is "opinions" of officers, judges, Mayors, and no
direct evidence. Not even the blood found in the home can be evidence because it
can't be dated or deemed unusual for married couples and family. Maybe the
blood was shed at some time by Mr Cox on a visit as family blood can have the
similar and very close DNA traces, its how they connect family histories.With all these revelations being exposed, it is having its desired
affect, take the heat off of WVC and its sloppy justice system.
"Defense attorney Greg Skordas, a former prosecutor, believes West Valley
police were very close to filing charges." Apparently "very close"
is not close enough to save two innocent children.With all these
info and the fact that Josh had custody of the two boys, why didn't they
act sooner in the best interest of the children? Some folks need to start new
careers over this, and the law should be modified to prevent this from ever
...Sick to my stomach. Totally outrageous.