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Published: Sunday, March 25 2012 12:00 a.m. MDT

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mohokat
Ogden, UT

More brainwashing! The CBO just in the last few days has stated that Obamacare will cost instead of 800 Billion which is the number the Dems claimed will now cost 1.7 trillion. Double. Like Pulosi said gotta pass it to see what is in it.

Eric Samuelsen
Provo, UT

If you read the actual CBO report, you will see on the very first page that their estimate of the costs of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act are actually a bit lower than initially thought. The Chairman of the House Policy Committee is the guy playing funny math with it. And it's a great bill, and this is a great article about it.

Invisible Hand
Provo, UT

Thanks to the "Affordable" care act my insurance premiums went up about 15% last year. I'm sure that my insurance will continue to get more and more "affordable" as more of these "benefits" of the act kick in in future years. Thank you Mr. Obama for making health care so "affordable".

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

@Invisible Hand

How much do you think your premiums would have gone up with the Affordable Care Act? My premiums have doubled over the past six years - long before the Affordable Care Act came into being. Last year my premiums only went a up a couple of dollars a month, four years ago, $45 every two weeks was the policy jump. That was long before President Obama was president.

Utah Businessman
Sandy, UT

Yes, I am sure that the AFA has helped many Americans, but this is similar to a successful bank robber who has everything he needs and life is great for a while--until he gets caught--then it is very different. This law represents the very opposite of the great principles upon which this nation was founded and which made it the greatest nation in the world--FREEDOM, PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY and ACCOUNTABILITY, and LIMITED GOVERNMENT. It is a significant step toward making America the next Greece. I wonder how many people know that since employer-provided, "full-coverage" health insurance became the norm, AND government health care programs came to be widely used, (in other words, since we departed from the principle of personal responsibility and stopped holding providers accountable), the average cost of a 24-hour stay in the hospital in SLC has risen at least 100 times, while salaries and wages AND our other living costs have risen 5-10 times. And just try holding the hospital accountable for these astronomical costs--you will be basically ignored because YOU are not paying most of the bill--the insurance company or a government entity is--INITIALLY. BUT YOU WILL PAY!

red state pride
Cottonwood Heights, UT

If this bill was so wonderful then why was HHS granting waivers like crazy to favored corporations? Leftists love to talk about equal protection but they sure don't practice what they preach. So McDonald"s can get a waiver but I can't? It's like Animal Farm. All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
Wonderful healthcare legislation- it authorized and funded the hiring of 16,000 new IRS agents but not one Doctor or Nurse. Welcome to your new police state- all to solve another contrived "crisis" created by Democrats and their water carriers in the MSM.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

re:RedStatepride
It gets tiring informing you Republicans.

#1 Temporary waivers were merely issued to allow certain businesses with a particular type of healthcare plan extra time to adapt.

#2 IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman testified to Congress in March 2010 that the IRS would not audit taxpayers to make sure they have bought health insurance. The health care bill specifically says that taxpayers who do not buy insurance "shall not be subject to any criminal prosecution or penalty with respect to such failure."

re:UtahBusinessman
How does the current system of the uninsured going to the ER for medical treatment and "cost-shifting" those expenses to taxpayers and the insured promote responsibility and accountability?
Healthcare costs have risen dramatically primarily over the past several decades due to advances in technology and treatment. For example, saving 24 week old babies who previously would've died. Or replacing hips and knees for middle-aged and elderly people.

mohokat
Ogden, UT

Is this brainwash or Kool Aid Drinking.

Utah Businessman
Sandy, UT

Re: Truthseeker,
I am very familiar with the "advances in technology" line, but I do not believe it. I have done a lot of investigation and analysis AND have had some LONG CONVERSATIONS with people with a large health care provider in Utah and nothing that I have been told by them or anyone else leads me to believe that this is a VALID explanation, although there is SOME TRUTH to what you are saying.

Here is what I see: there is some kind of technological advance that gets approved to be covered by health insurance and the hospital is presented with a cost for this apparatus of, say $50,000,000. Thus, the cost to be treated or tested with this "wonderful new technology" is $10,000. Since the insurance is provided by his employer, the patient's only questions is--yes, you guessed it--"will my insurance cover it?" If so, then it's "full speed ahead", EVEN IF THE BENEFIT MAY BE MARGINAL. That, of course, is just ONE EXAMPLE of what happens when "someone else" is paying the bill. There are many scenarios, but the BASIC ISSUE is the departure from the principles that control costs--responsibility and accountability.

PeanutGallery
Salt Lake City, UT

Wow, this op-ed is so full of misstatements, I don't know whether to be angry or just laugh out loud. Makes me glad that Rep. Woolsey is in California and not Utah. She thinks the Obamacare law didn't go far enough. She claims that this law is the will of the people and was implemented "democratically," when in reality it was implemented by coercion, threats, bribes, and lies to various members of Congress to force enough support.

She also claims that overturning by the Supreme Court would be because of overreach by "activist judges," when in reality it would be an act by Constitutional judges to correct an overreaching CONGRESS (who seems to care little about the Constitution).

Woolsey also claims that a public option would lower costs by providing "competition" to insurance companies (!!). Rrrrrright - that would be true "competition" for the insurance companies to be competing with the very government who dictates the rules for the insurance companies. There are many other blatant untruths in this piece, but I don't have time or space to address them all. Just, wow!

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Today I saw and heard something that I am sure we will see daily as it relates to Obamacare and how it will be administered, if the High Court does not rescind it. A liberal was whining on CBS about Dick Cheney’s heart transplant and how he doesn’t “deserve it” Death panels are already in place, and THEY will decide who is “worthy” to receive medical care and who isn’t and it will in fact depend on who you are! Never mind that not one penny of taxpayer money paid for Mr. Cheney’s heart transplant, but according to liberals, he isn’t worth it!

Dart Thrower
Ogden, UT

I am not a fan of Obamacare because I don't think it goes far enough. The US spends twice as much of our GDP on healthcare relative to other first-world countries and our health statistics are solidly middle of the road. We could simply adopt a single-payer system like most of Europe and get equal care for half the cost. The problem with our current health care model is that no one gets turned away if they cannot afford it. So people like me, that pay their bills, are paying for themselves and all the free-loaders that go to the emergency room for dental care and then walk away on the bill. If Conservatives want to make this work, then it is time to introduce legislation that prohibits medical providers from giving away healthcare and then adding the cost to their overhead. This is Socialism. If you cannot pay, you are shown the door. If people want to help the poor, then they can donate to free-care hospitals. I am going broke paying for the freeloaders and the answer is not to keep the same system and just pay 15% more each year.

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