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Published: Sunday, March 18 2012 12:04 a.m. MDT

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bradleyc
Layton, UT

Kids need time to be kids. More instructional time is not the answer. We push our kids to death now. Our best and brightest have not always been our best scholars but rather those creatives who can think outside the box, invent new ways of doing things and are extremely competitive.

johnl
Sandy, Utah

Common sense... Unfortunately this is a Republican state and usually the education system is the last for funding thus the short fridays and numerous days off in addition to our holidays.

DeltaFoxtrot
West Valley, UT

Something to ponder... the leading American innovators of the past 30 years were mostly dropouts.

That says more about our education system than anything else.

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, UT

Statistically there isn't strong enough evidence from the data to make the conclusion that the number of days in school is the cause for higher test scores. Honestly, I think our emphasis on math, science, and reading and getting those scores up is what is causing the scores to be so low, as ironic as it sounds. Our curriculum is too narrow and the tests are not very valid.

A voice of Reason
Salt Lake City, UT

bradleyc,

I completely agree. More 'textbook smart' children is where we've been heading and it's our downfall. Creativity is being removed more and more from education- yet creativity is what has fueled our greatest successes. The most brilliant thinkers in history haven't just been smart at what they did- they played the piano AND violin AND dabbled in writing creatively AND so on and so on. People today want brilliant Galileo's without taking a real look at what made the man as brilliant as he was. How many scientists have had as long lasting impact on the world of science as a man like Leonardo Davinci? We must not forget that the most known painting in the world still sits in the Luvre, which came from this man.

Creativity is my life and those seeking to destroy it baffle my mind. I can't even remotely understand the mentality- unless it's some sort of insane jealousy. It just doesn't make sense.

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, UT

A voice of Reason,

You are exactly right. I said that the narrow curriculum and emphasis on math, reading, and science are what causes those scores to drop, ironically. They believe that the "less important" stuff like the arts detract from learning, when it actually enhances learning. Einstein credits playing the violin as being a factor in his thinking.

My second point was about the validity of the tests. Anybody who knows me on an academic basis could verify when I say that I am much better at math than I am at English or science. Math is one of my strong points (in fact, I am studying math in college). However, the math scores were consistently my lowest scores on standardized tests. This is often the case. So are the tests valid? Apparently not. We don't even know if American children are as dumb as we think they are anyway until we get proper assessment tools.

GB
Silver Spring, MD

Of course more time in the classroom results in higher test scores! We don't need a study to help us discover that nugget. However, it is erroneous to say that that necessarily means more time in the classroom is the most appropriate course of action. Deciding on the best course of action depends on our priorities. Do we want to let kids be kids, or do we want them to spend more time learning math? Personally, I prefer the former, but I can respect people on both sides of the issue.

worf
Mcallen, TX

Dorms should be built, than have students live at school. Wow! Can you imagine how test scores will soar?

Nothing is more important than test scores.

Winglish
Lehi, UT

Here is an example of an actual data analysis performed at my local secondary school:

Students who failed zero classes missed an average of 2.3 days in the semester.
Students who failed one class missed an average of 5.4 days in the semester.
Students who failed more than one class missed an average of 12.7 days in the semester.

There is a significant correlation between the number of absences and the number of classes failed at our school. Absenteeism is one of the single most accurate predictors of academic failure.

worf
Mcallen, TX

Winglish,

How many days did:

Thomas Edison
Orville Wright
Mark Twain
Samuel Morse
George Washington
Abraham Lincoln

miss?

Schools are funded through attendance. Forcing children into longer school days and hours is limiting freedom, and is not American.

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