Jake2010 said:Actually, as much as many of us to include myself prior to
last night would like to think, the first 4 teams to play are completely in the
tournament. The first round is very much a legitimate part of the tournament as
I would reckon is made point blank potato head language obvious that the seeds
are not 16 as was hitherto done before. Plus, could you ask for a better first
round than was witnessed last night? Argue all you want but before you do go to
the brackets page of whatever sports source you prefer and see for yourself in
very clean and clear English that the games tomorrow and beyond are 2nd round
and beyond. 1st round is in fact tournament whether we like it or not.
Mahalo.Only a matter of time before it expands to 96 teams. All in
the name of $$$. The NIT will go away and become a preseason only tournament.
Congratulations Cougars!It's too bad our friends on the hill are so
blindly jealous, that they can't accept what is so obvious to the rest of the
nation - that regardless of "round", this was a great NCAA tournament
comeback!I do understand the desperation though, when your rival has
won more NCAA tournament games THIS WEEK, than U have won in the last SEVEN
Desperate UVCU's 2011 NCAA Tournament Record - 5-1Defeated USC, 59-46Defeated Georgetown, 74-56Defeated Purdue,
94-76Defeated Florida State, 72-71Defeated Kansas, 71-61Lost
to Butler, 70-62It doesn't matter one iota what you call the rounds.
VCU's first win in the 2011 tournament counted just as much as VCU's last win in
the 2011 tournament.Bottom Line:BYU is 1-0 in the 2012
NCAA tournament, with a win over a team that the NCAA selection committee to be
BETTER than then regular season champion of the "conference of
chumpions."Trying to minimize that with round name semantics
just proves how desperate the hill trolls are.
The spirit of Jimmer is alive.
Interesting sub-plot.It was reported after the game that in the two
games last night, all four of the great haves were played at the North rim.Obama was sitting under the South rim....cute...
A tell of two halfs. Great win and Congrats Cougar Nation. What's good for BYU
is good for the WCC.
I called my daughter (a BYU fan) before the game and predicted misery for BYU
fans. I was right... for the first half. They couldn't have been feeling very
comfortable during much of the second half as well.When they got within 10
I still had many doubts. At the end of the game my jaw was ready to drop.That's one that will not be soon forgotten. I think they amazed
themselves.Congrats to you cougar fans.
Aside from the great play of Hartsock & Davies the key to the win was using
Cusick at the point. He provided better decision making than Carlino--who has
really been rushing things too much the last part of the season. In addition,
Harrison and Winder provided a real spark in hustle and athleticism to match
Iona. Of course due to great coaching to make those changes and to go to the
zone. Nice job Cougs!
moabite98Moab, UTActually, with the win over Iona, the Cougars
advance to the FIRST round of the NCAA tournament, since it was essentially a
play-in game.Actually you are incorrect, the games starting on
Thursday are considered 2nd round games.
@ Veritas, you really need to quit including factual information in your posts.
It makes others look bad when combating facts with fantasy.
I will admit that during that first half I wasn't very confident. But the second
half was amazing. Seriously Dave Rose is a heck of a coach. Clearly he had a
great speach and or he made some increadable adjustments to the game plan that
made all the difference. Oh and you can't forget the kids for executing the new
game plan.Looking forward to Thursday!
What a game last night! I was surprised that Iona could shoot as well as they
did in the first half. It is hard to be that consistent for a whole game and
the first person who gets credit is Coach Rose's move to go to a zone defense
which forced Iona to take bad shots. Next the fighting attitude of the whole
team who when down by 25 rose up to the challenge and didn't give up. I don't
think we can beat Marquette but I would love an upset if it did happen!! Way to
Actually, as much as many of us to include myself prior to last night would like
to think, the first 4 teams to play are completely in the tournament. The first
round is very much a legitimate part of the tournament as I would reckon is made
point blank potato head language obvious that the seeds are not 16 as was
hitherto done before. Plus, could you ask for a better first round than was
witnessed last night? Argue all you want but before you do go to the brackets
page of whatever sports source you prefer and see for yourself in very clean and
clear English that the games tomorrow and beyond are 2nd round and beyond. 1st
round is in fact tournament whether we like it or not. Mahalo.
moabite98Moab, UT"Actually, with the win over Iona, the Cougars
advance to the FIRST round of the NCAA tournament, since it was essentially a
play-in game."===Actually, if you run over to the
NCAA site you can see that the NCAA has the "First Four" as the First
Round and games Thursday and Friday as the Second Round...
I was impressed with how well Davies adjusted in the second half to all that
attention he got every time he caught the ball. They were bound and determined
to keep him from winning for BYU. Somehow they forgot about Hartsock.What a one-two punch BYU has down low.If the long-ball shooters
could ever get their touch back, BYU could go somewhere in this tournament.Maybe Harrison's production can help him to maintain confidence and
repeat against Marquette.It's obvious that both Harrison and Winder
can play defense against quick guards. Hope the coach learned from that with
respect to who he starts against Marquette. BYU can't get down double digits
against that team and expect to come back.
Two amazing moments:1) BYU's comeback win. Fantastic!2) I
"Liked" one of HonorCode's posts. That's a first.
Honor Code- Sorry, no one cares.
Gotta keep mentioning one unsung hero: Craig Cusick. What a difference he made.
Think of his line--26 minutes, 8 assists, 2 steals, and only 1 turnover.
It's Jimmer time!
I'm not surprized that Obama wouldn't stick around to watch BYU play.
Three reasons for the victory:* Iona wore out* great coaching
by Rose* the team has heart* no WCC refs
The keys were switching to zone defense and using Cusick to bring up the ball.
I like Carlino, but he seemed to have a tough time (5 turnovers). Cusick is a
solid ballhandler and plays with a lot of poise. I believe Rose should stick
with zone D throughout, unless they start getting burned.What a
GREAT game. I really enjoyed it, though I could have screamed in the first
half. I agree with other posters that our bigs should be the focus, and 3s
should be launched only when we're doubled/tripled on the block. There were
times when Davies made some great passes out of the double/triple team
situations.Good luck Thursday! Marquette is good, but I believe we
can beat them if we play well. "Heart"sock is the man.
@So Cal: Unless you don't watch a lot of bball, this isn't close to a 'bad'
half. All things considered BYU did score 40 points and were able to make a few
runs. To me it wasn't so much a bad half as it was that IONA played out of
their minds. 40 points is right on BYUs avg. but 55 for IONA is well above their
avg even thought they are the top team in scoring offense. BYU's D couldn't keep
up but it was far from a bad 1st half. IONA woulda been up on anyone with the
way they played.
Kind reminds me of the "blind squirrel" story.
No one has mentioned this, but I noticed that the second half had far less
shooting by these awful guards. Look at the box score and we can see just how
badly they shoot. I was screaming at my PC for them to quit shooting in favor
of Hartsock and Davies, and I was surprised that for the first time this season
Coach Rose actually heard my screams and took my suggestion. It was a great
comeback and the whole team has to be credited with the comeback - the awful
shooters for getting the ball to the great 3nd, and credit to the 3 scorers.
Good move to lessen Zylstra's floor time. Great decision Coach!
An amazing game. I've never seen a worse half of basketball that what BYU played
the first half, until Iona equaled it in the 2nd! This game speaks volumes of
the "never say die" mentality of the team. Well done, Cougs. We survive
the play another day!!
Its about time Damarcus Harrison finally got some playing time. I like Zylstra
but he was a major liability on defense. The guy he was supposed to guard kept
hitting wide open threes in the first half, each time Brock was unable to keep
up. Things began to change after Harrison got in the game. That was a smart move
by Coach Rose.
Nicely done BYU. Way to hang in there and keep pressing. Equally impressive was
the first 15 minutes by Iona, great speed and quickness, it was hard for the
Cougars to adapt. Now my concern...I hope the NCAA dosen't launch an
investigation into the victory last night. I'm pretty sure at halftime in an
attempt to get another Pac 10 team into the tournament, the Iona team was
kidnapped by the Utes who scored their customarily 17 points in a half giving
BYU an chance to come back.
Not to take away from the cougs great victoy, but the other thing is that it
appeared Iona just ran out of gas -- couldn't maintain the frenetic pace of the
first 15 minutes.
As much as I dislike BYU, kudos to them!!
Actually, with the win over Iona, the Cougars advance to the FIRST round of the
NCAA tournament, since it was essentially a play-in game.
Can't this BYU team win a game early in the game? It would have been kinder
for the BYU team to have killed their fans outright than put their fans hearts
and bladders on that 55 point rollercoaster ride.
A great comeback win.15 minutes of terrible coaching by Rose. 25
minutes of good coaching by Rose. 25 minutes of good defense. 25
minutes of atrocious shooting by a team that didn't belong in the first four.15 minutes of lights out shooting by the underdog. 25 minutes of solid
low post execution that should have been the obvious game plan from the
beginning against the smallest team in the tourney.This was a
strange win. Cougar fans should be extremely excited by the comeback victory but
extremely thankful that Rose's approach to the game didn't cost them a victory
against a team that had no business being in the game from minute one. At least
he made the adjustments and got the amazing comeback win.
AMAZING!!! Glad I got to witness history. Let's say it again: Largest comeback
in NCAA tourney HISTORY! What a night.
Wild, nearly unbelievable! Brave move by Rose to sub Harrison for the
frenetically playing guard.P.S. Anyone know how many games the Cougs
fell behind early this year? Does the team tend to start flat or too hyped?