Educators praise collaborative effort of 2012 session
Published: Thursday, March 8 2012 11:00 p.m. MST
I fully expect this bill to be signed because it precisely reflects Conservative
Republican ideals. Doing so isn't as fatalistic as it would have been five
years ago.Schools are not the best forum for sex education. It is
the home. While I never received a lesson on the mechanics or even the talk, my
parents taught me respect and patience. I knew about the existence of birth
control because it is everywhere in the media. Any questions I had I could look
up and figure out on my own. In the past I believe that without
the schools the vital life-saving information was impossible to get.
Fortunately, we live in a tech savvy age. Kids can get sex education on their
cell phones if they can't get it from their parents.
Governor Herbert,Veto this stupid bill. Please.
Herbert said he would not be swayed by mass email efforts or other campaigns. He
said his decision would be based on what is "good policy for the state of
Utah."He is openly admitting that he doesn't care what the
residents of the state want. That is a great attitude for a public official to
have. Maybe his next approach will be to cover his ears and yell "LA LA LA
LA LA LA, CAN'T HEAR YOU" until people leave him alone.
"good policy for the state of Utah."---The
"sex ed" bill is bad policy for the state. Abstinence Only is not
"sex education" it is, by default, hiding your head in the sand chanting
nyah, nyah, nyah and refusing to face reality.
I love how it says near the end that the legislature addressed the "top
priorities" with the funding. Apparently creating yet another kind of test
for students is a top priority but keeping teachers sane and happy? Nah. I'm
thinking of moving to Wyoming. Their classes are capped at 16 and the starting
base salary is more money than I make now after 10 years of teaching. I
recognize that we have funding issues that other states may not have, but when
more is expected each year and little support is offered (not even necessarily
monetary support) it gets harder to be a happy teacher in Utah.
The veto will hinge on whether the bill is good policy or bad policy? This is
kind of obvious, should it not be? Of course bad policy should be vetoed. And
this bill is really bad policy.
It is bad policy.Period.
@Steven S JarvisYour position is that parents should teach it, but
most likely don't. That's okay though because kids can figure it out on their
own or google it?I hardly think that "guess and check" is an
appropriate method for sex education.
There merits of this bill will be judged by the Governor. However, the petition
group is a very liberal and progressive organization that may have an ulterior
motive in this process. However, the legislature does things like this type of
activity on the last day. When you sign into the petition site, you will give
them all your information for e-mailings.
Herbert is afraid of gayle and the eagle form they run the legislature and he
The fiscal, patriotic statesmen/women who drafted, voted for and passed this
legislation should have a plaque made and displayed in the Utah State Capitol in
their honor.It would be a horrifying tragedy if Gov. Herbert
succumbs to the morally destructive, socially progressive weeping and wailing
and vetoes this most important legislation that is going to be prove to be the
firm foundation which a [majority] of the children and young adults of this
state are pleading for."While we teach sex in schools and
publicly portray the vilest of filth on the movie screen, we virtually make a
criminal of a schoolteacher who would bring a Bible into the classroom or who
might ask the students to recite the LordÂs Prayer. So far have we lost our
sense of values?"Elder Mark E PetersonLDS General
Conference June  "Do you affiliate with any group or
individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted
by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or do you sympathize with
the precepts of any such group or individual?" LDS Temple Recommend Question
Center for Disease Control and Prevention Website Non-Political yet
extremely costlyTeen PregnancyÂIn 2009, a total of
409,840 infants were born to Â19 year olds, for a live birth rate of
39.1 per 1,000 women in this age groupÂ.Non-Political yet
extremely costlySexually Transmitted DiseasesToo many to
nameNon-Political yet extremely costly Youth SuicideÂSuicide (i.e., taking one's own life) is a serious public health
problem that affects even young people. For youth between the ages of  and
24, suicide is the third leading cause of death. It results in approximately
4400 lives lost each year.Â
@ThatsSoUtah"He said his decision would be based on what is "good
policy for the state of Utah."He is openly admitting that he
doesn't care what the residents of the state want. That is a great attitude for
a public official to have. "Sometimes it is. Sometimes good
policy is to do something very unpopular but unnecessary. The bailouts are one
thing that comes to mind. If we're to balance the budget or even get close they
will have to make very unpopular decisions on the tax and spending sides of it.
Gov. Herbert:PLEASE VETO THIS BILL!!I am a Conservative
and a Tea Partyer and I am against another intrusion of government into the
I agree that it is the parents responsibility to teach their children about safe
sex and avoiding STD's. The reality is that many parents are either incapable or
improperly equipped to do so.As Utah law currently stands, parents
have the choice to not allow their children to take a sexual education class in
school if that is what they feel is the best way to raise their kids. All this
bill does is possibly take away my choice to decide what is the best way educate
my children. And takes away the opportunity to an education that many children
wouldn't receive any other way.Please make the right choice Governor
Herbert, and veto this bill.
If over 13,000 signed the petition with one of the most liberal and progressive
movements in the United States from a state with mainly conservative views
relating to this topic, there must be a sentiment out there that the Legislature
sort of blew it like the voucher issue and GRAMA issue.
I am laughing at each post that suggests teenagers go on the internet to
research information regarding sex, STDs, and contraceptives. For those who
think their teenagers will Google appropriate sites, let me translate: porn.
HB 363 addressing sex education when read in detail seems more like a
"symbolic" bill that both sides and both parties can complain about.
Additionally, The Deseret News article doesn't accurately describe the contents
of the bill, using only what seems like dramatic, sensational and incomplete
phrases from the bill that only add to the misconceptions about the impact on
this bill on local school districts and students.
@ThatsSoUtah,Abstinence has the highest failure rate of any birth
control method. Teaching it solely is not an adequate or responsible approach.
While I am not advocating this method be taught, I am advocating a simple
message that seems to have been forgotten. Sex education is not a school
responsibility. It is the parents. Teachers are not qualified
medical professionals, so passing this responsibility onto us was never correct
in the first place. We already face lawsuits whenever suggesting things
regarding medications, so there is a great risk regarding teaching anything off
script. My school makes it simple by bringing someone in from outside the
school who has a medical background.
You can bet if Herbert vetoes this bill, the two or three Republicans running
against him for governor will quickly jump on the Eagle Forum, right wing band
wagon and talk about how Herbert is pro-teen sex, pro-feminist and anything else
their propaganda machine can dream up.If Hebert vetoes this bill
(which he should) it will show he's got true guts and that he isn't simply a
puppet of the far right. More and more, we have politicians who
are simply Yes Men to their fringe constituents. In politics, the word
"courage" is no longer considered a virtue. Instead, it's considered a
sign that you're a "radical" or "extremist."Governor
Herbert, show the voters here in Utah that you have courage. Veto this bill.
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