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  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    March 8, 2012 8:21 p.m.

    @Starfarer

    "For every argument you make BYU can make a better argument..."
    **************

    What about head to head football competition?

    Does it matter at all that Utah has won two of the last two games?

    Does it matter that Utah has won seven of the last ten games?

    Does it matter that Utah has won 12 of the last twenty games?

    What is BYU's "better" argument for scoreboard?

    Hmmmmmm?

  • Starfarer Mesa, AZ
    March 8, 2012 3:22 p.m.

    Uteology

    You still miss the point...

    Why are you trying to convince BYU fans that they are not worthy of whatever you think is worthy?

    So what if u won a BCS bowl and were undefeated. You weren't the first and you won't be the last.

    What did you do last year? Nothing.

    What did you do the year before? Nothing.

    "But your NC was 30 years ago." Yep it was, and for 30 years we have been in the discussion of the top programs in the west, if not the country. It is called a legacy. Take a look around articles and proof is everywhere

    What u got? 2 BCS wins. Which by the standards of the last two years is starting to look more and more like an anomaly.

    We have down years, then we get right back up into the top 25.

    For every argument you make BYU can make a better argument, (go see how many conference and NCs BYU has for ALL their sports)

    But the real question remains, why do you come to BYU boards and try to convince BYU fans that u are better? what drives that?

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 7, 2012 9:52 p.m.

    @Starfarer

    The 2008 Ute didn't just win just another bowl game, they were the ONLY undefeated team in the nation and had four top 25 wins. For comparisons, BYU has only beat 2 final ranked teams since Edwards retired.

    Even if the BCS folds into Plus-One with BYU still out looking in... We still have scoreboard 14 of the last 20 years.

    BYU will struggle, opposing defenses will just need to put 8-9 in the box and force Nelson to throw. BYU will be lucky to go 8-4.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    March 7, 2012 4:18 p.m.

    "To answer your question, Utah has 20 NCAA National Championships to contribute to the Pac-12's 441 NCAA National Championships. Utah has won more National Titles than half the conference, just an FYI!"

    First of all, you didn't answer his question. The question was: "How many championships you got in there?" In there = in the PAC. Anyway, your 20 championships sounds impressive on the surface. But let's dig a little deeper. In how many different sports were those championships? What sports were they, and how many did they get?

    Go ahead, since you're obviously proud of all your national championships, you should be more than happy to say what sports they were in and how many of each. Go on.

  • In Stitches Provo, Utah
    March 7, 2012 10:47 a.m.

    Ah Spring. The flowers begin to bloom, the birds return from the South and the trolls reemerge from under their bridges.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    March 6, 2012 5:04 p.m.

    @Starfarer

    Does scoreboard count in your calculus of program superiority?

    Because if it does you seem to have forgotten that Utah is two of the last two and seven of the last ten.

    But let's not let little things like facts get in the way of your delusion.

  • rapaz11 Sitka, AK
    March 6, 2012 4:53 p.m.

    So according to Starfarer, BCS games don't mean anything. So if BYU ever gets to a BCS game it won't be that big of a deal. You downplay it only because BYU has never made it to a BCS bowl game. If they ever do, it will then become the crowning achievement. What do you have to play for now. According to you, Utah has already watered down the BCS. It no longer means anything.

  • Starfarer Mesa, AZ
    March 6, 2012 4:00 p.m.

    Welcome back trolls.

    Thought you might have hid under the bridge and stayed there, what with all the success your b-ball team is having.

    But, I was wrong.

    The football articles come out and the Y haters start frothing at the mouth. Let's put all the myths to bed shall we?

    "We play in the conference of champions!" Big deal. How many championships you got in there? there is a big difference between playing in a conference and being a champion.

    "We won two BCS bowls." Yeah! Call Guinness quick, before the BCS folds and you have nothing to brag about anymore. they were just bowl games several years ago, what did you do in the bowl games last year

    "Oh yeah, your NC was almost 30 years ago." I'm so glad you can count. The difference is there is only one team award that transcends the years, it is a NC, not bowl wins, no matter where they were

    "but you didn't deserve a NC!" We earned it the same way every team in the history of college football did. Don't like it? Take it up with management.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    March 6, 2012 3:22 p.m.

    Altercations?

    Seems a little out of character for a spiritual band of brothers.

  • Bleed Crimson Sandy, Utah
    March 6, 2012 2:35 p.m.

    @ worf

    "Ywp, and good luck with Colorado and Washington State".

    I'll take playing Colorado and Washington State any day over Idaho, Idaho State, San Jose State, New Mexico State (Cougs new rival). Talking about a boring November schedule the cougies have!

    "Utes--no conference championship or BCS game".

    Cougies-- No conference games to play, no conference titles to play for, no BCS bowl games to play for, and no national championships to plays for. What do you guys have to look forward to anyway?

    It's almost that time of year again when BYU crowns themselves pre-season National Champions and Riley is the pre-season Heisman Trophy Winner. lol

  • CougarBlue Heber City, UT
    March 6, 2012 12:44 p.m.

    I still Can't Say It wow what a mighty schedule Utah has, Northern Colorado Bears and the worst of the PAC12 Colorado. I guess they will have to practice real hard this year to beat Colorado and try to beat the mighty Bears. What a joke your comments are. Each team has softies on their schedule and Utah does it year-in-and year out also.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    March 6, 2012 11:12 a.m.

    I have to give credit to die hard Y fans who are willing to sign up for another year of Nelson at QB and crappy home schedule. Yes another year of Nelson shot putting the ball down the field and running around in circles. YUK! BYU used to be alot of fun to watch - no more. This program continues to skid down hill...

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    March 6, 2012 11:07 a.m.

    "I could stink it up, you know," said Nelson. "I didn't complete a ball in team today and if that continues then I'll be on the bench as quick as anyone else".

    Only if BYU is lucky.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    March 6, 2012 10:08 a.m.

    I Still Can't Say It,

    Ywp, and good luck with Colorado and Washington State.

    Utes--no conference championship or BCS game.

    Then comes the whining of playing in a tough conference, and how easy BYU has it. Hmm! It's already starting.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    March 6, 2012 9:55 a.m.

    Should be a hugh year!

  • I Still Can't Say It Holladay, UT
    March 6, 2012 8:57 a.m.

    The Cougars should practice real hard. They have big games against New Mexico St. and Idaho St. next year. Go get 'em boys!

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    March 6, 2012 7:13 a.m.

    I'm very excited about this team. Riley will bring passion and leadership to the entire team, and this will be a team that never gives up. Our pass ypg will increase by 100 per game with Hoffman, Apo and Falslev having breakout years. Alisa and Quezada will keep defenses on their heels. Riley will run less, but enough to keep defenses wondering.

    We have some very good games on the schedule. It's better than last year and much better than a MWC schedule.

    Unlike, I Bleed Blue, I have mixed feelings about Chambers. I hope Bronco keeps him on the defensive side of the ball, and I hope he's gotten rid of his sour attitude. Every time he had the ball, I cringed at the fear of him fumbling.

  • AzTim Gilbert, AZ
    March 6, 2012 7:05 a.m.

    Did you notice what's missing from Nelson?...an entitlement mentality. How refreshing to see the de facto leader of the team speak as if he could be yanked tomorrow for "stinking it up." The free market works just as beautifully in sports as it does in the economy.

  • SCCougar LEXINGTON, SC
    March 6, 2012 6:31 a.m.

    Just curious...why does Nelson only have two throws in practice?

  • Chris B's momma Idaho Falls, ID
    March 6, 2012 5:18 a.m.

    Well Riley, for many of us you are still the second choice!

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    March 6, 2012 5:14 a.m.

    Nelson and pristine execution, a true oxymoron. Sad to think that we will have another season of Independent scheduling with Nelson at the helm.

  • AK Cougar Palmer, AK
    March 6, 2012 12:52 a.m.

    Glad Spring ball is here. Basketball has been a welcome reprieve and now spring practice is here. Football is back!.

    Go Cougars.

  • I Bleed Blue Las Vegas, NV
    March 5, 2012 10:52 p.m.

    Great to see O'Neal Chambers back in the fold. The kid shows a lot of heart. It could have been easy for him to just walk away. I hope the injury does not keep him down for long. I also hope Riley Nelson doesn't turn out to be a more compact version of Tim Tebow. Right now I hold my breath every time he puts the ball in the air.