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Published: Saturday, Feb. 25 2012 6:27 p.m. MST

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SSmith
Washington, UT

Bob Bennett certainly has the gift of stating the obvious.

John Charity Spring
Back Home in Davis County, UT

When the so-called tea party jetisoned Bennett, it not only doomed itself, it set the whole Republican Party on the road to failure.

Of course, the threat of left wing extremism is both severe and relentless. However, the decision of the tea party to respond with equal extremism on the right is not the correct choice.

We must have moderation and prudence in politics. Indeed, the Founding Fathers intended for this Country to be ruled by moderate statesmen. The proliferation of extremist politicians dishonors everything the Fathers fought for.

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Bob Bennett continues to live in his Senatorial fantasy world, where the "elits" are annoited with power and the stupid people who elected them are to be manipulated.

Sorry, Bob, your pontifications are no longer valued, and we hope you are enjoying your involuntary retirement. Please give Orrin Hatch some tips on how to make the transition less bitter and resentful than yours has proven to be.

Obama may well win, but it will be through political chicanery and duping the easily fooled into voting for him, not by any real or imagined deficiency in the Republican nominee. Heck, even Bob Bennett would be a better President than Obama.

Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

I think it was disgraceful the way Bob Bennett was treated.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Unique. Not better. And my fear is that future elections will be more 'unique'.

A1994
Centerville, UT

" Among Democrats, 47 percent said they would not vote for a Mormon, compared to 23 percent for Republicans."

So much for 'Right Wing' extremism. The left wing in this country is anything but tolerant.

As for Bob Bennett, you said you would run for two terms and you tried for four. What did you THINK would happen eventually?

Rikitikitavi
Cardston, Alberta

I disagree that "the biggest loser will be the LDS Church". In many cases even bad news or negative press can have a significant up-side. Those individuals who are the biggest purveyors of lies and falsehoods are not folks we expect to ever win over anytime soon, if ever. Sadly many who fall for their lies and falsehoods are the real victims. Indeed there are far too many of the latter. Where there is hope in all the lies and falsehoods is a significant number of folks who hear and say to themselves "what is the REAL truth?". "It can't actually be as bad as we are being told". Folks in this latter group are then motivated to seek out the REAL truth.

Esquire
Springville, UT

Please, there is no war on religion. What it is is two things. First, religions continue their wars with each other. Mormons getting into the same political bed with Southern Baptists is a bad, bad idea. Then there is Santorum, who states his religious views and expects everyone else to fall in line, another form of religions fighting amongst themselves. This leads to my second point, that churches are out there beating their chests about this or that, sometimes extreme views, and the public is having a negative reaction. They are intolerant of other religious positions. Churches want their views enforced by government and religious views they don't like banned. They effectively want a state sponsored church. Yes, there are some out there who battle against religion generally, but 98% of the problems are self-inflicted by the various churches, particularly those who are dipping their toes into politics.

no fit in SG
St.George, Utah

The voters could find unique quality in the upcoming 2012 elections if the candidates could talk about the issues that plague the average American......lack of jobs, housing/mortgage failures, perks for wealthier Americans. taxes, education. healthcare.
What is the constant Republican message at this time:
Make Obama a one term president.
Contraceptive issues are of massive importance!

homebrew
South Jordan, UT

Bennett was a better senator than Hatch. Lee is a kook. We need someone who will work with the other party, not ridicule and villify themsich as Lee and Hatch. When have you ever heard President Obama say about a republican, that they hate this country or want to destroy it?, Obama has reached out to work with the GOp, but has gotten a cold shoulder ever since his election. This is not your fathers republican party. "There is something especially rancid about the never ending efforts to turn President Obama into a stranger, an alien, a manchurian candidate, with a diabolical hidden agenda" Bennett didnt act like an extremist, and its too bad for his party.

TOO
Sanpete, UT

Cats

Are you serious? The year that he was defeated, he came down to Snow College for one of my classes and spoke (before he was ousted). I asked him a couple questions about things he was doing. He told me I was just a dumb college student who didn't understand the world of politics.
I am glad he was treated the way he was treated. He was rude, ignorant, and prideful.

paperboy111
Lindon, UT

The obvious problem that no one is willing to state is that the vast majority of LDS members self-identify as conservative Republicans and vote as a solid Republican block.

It's ironic that up until the 1950s, the spectrum of political affiliation of LDS members ranged across the board. This started to change during the cold war and accelerated as extremely conservative and political church leaders like Ezra T. Benson began espousing the dangers of the Democratic party and it's leaning towards liberal thinking and ideals.

In the 2012 Nevada Republican caucus, CNN reported that 88% of LDS voters voted for Romney. If Romney wasn't the nominee, Most LDS voters would still probably vote for a Republican nominee, as they did for George W. Bush in 2000 and 2004. The message to non-Mormon voters and especially Democratic voters? If you are LDS you not only solidly identify with the Mormon candidate, but with the Republican party, seen of course as the opposition to Democrats who support causes dear to their hearts like protecting Social Security, Medicare and a woman's right to choose.

Until Mormons feel comfortable identifying with and voting for non-Republican causes and candidates, Mormonism will continue to be viewed by outsiders as suspicious, and at worse as dangerous.

Capella
Bakersfield, CA

Interesting article, glad it got reported. Hearing speakers 'wax eloquent' fills in a lot of gray areas. And every man has his own opinions, and agenda...

I've lived in California 52 years, Idaho for 8, and Utah while at "The Y". I've seen good and bad in all communities, prejudice and ignorance, profound sacrifice and humanitarian service- as most people on this planet discover eventually. No one has a corner on the matket of sainthood, but honest people make the best communities by far.

It is unfair and disingenuous to try and make one side or the other be the all-evil or all-saintly in this life. But being completely honest is threatening to some, but kudos to the honest who will discuss it.

In the dialogue on religious differences, I feel it would be good to educate the ignorant on the other's doctrines. All religions believe in some kind of charity, giving and service. The difference lies in what your beliefs in salvation are. So I suggest that we all get past the back-patting and glad-handing, and own up to our varying doctrinal teachings and history. When I see that in a conference on this topic, then I'll attend.

Let the whining cease and the honesty begin. That's the only nexus for true communication.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

2nd try
The marriage of politics and religion several years ago has been damaging to both. It is not surprising more Americans, particularly the youth, are choosing to remain unaffiliated. When politicians use religion they appear hypocritical, judgmental, and smug. Often the "war" over social issues involves demonization.
Additionally, the many scandals involving religious leaders further exacerbates the disaffection.

The Republican Party today doesn't resemble the party that produced Reagan. Republicans have painted themselves into a corner, held hostage by its more extreme elements.

goatesnotes
Kamas, UT

I'm always so amused by Bennett's self-characterizations - "excommunicated by the GOP?" Come on, Bob. It had nothing (very little) to do with your politics. Instead, you were old (77) and couldn't retire gracefully. This year the same matter - Orrin Hatch (78) - faces us again. We have another old man who just thinks life cannot go on without him in the Senate. He will be summarily dismissed at convention, just like you were.

A1994
Centerville, UT

@Truthseeker

"The Republican Party today doesn't resemble the party that produced Reagan. Republicans have painted themselves into a corner, held hostage by its more extreme elements."

You will probably remember (or hopefully have researched it) that Ronald Reagan wasn't exactly a favorite of the GOP establishment. He changed the party, at least for a while. To understand the conservative voter, you have to look at the recent history of the GOP. It is a story of being burned by George H.W. Bush on his 'no new taxes pledge', putting up candidates that can't possibly win (Bob Dole), and being burned again by a big government conservative named George W. Bush. The idea of going into a war (Iraq) to deal with an imminent threat makes sense to conservatives. But that's not what happened and conservatives are as keenly aware of that as anyone else. Bush also spent like crazy. He had a lot of good qualities, but some really flawed ones too.

So in light of all that, you can't blame conservative GOP voters for wanting to find out who their nominee really is this year before we get burned again. People like Bob Bennett don't understand the frustration and try to minimize concerned voters as 'extremists.' That was his HUGE mistake. It is not an extremist element in the GOP but a group of people who will not allow themselves to be lied to again. Having said that, conservatives ought not put their faith in Santorum or Gingrich. Romney is the most logical choice.

wrz
Salt Lake City, UT

@homebrew:

"Bennett was a better senator than Hatch."

Hatch ain't no good either. All hat and no cattle. Both of these guys' main agenda is to get reelected term after term.

"When have you ever heard President Obama say about a republican, that they hate this country or want to destroy it?"

Obama's actions speak louder than words... What he's done to this country in his three years as White House occupant is tantamount to destroying the country... adding $5 trillion to the national debt, budget-destroying and unconstitutional national health care, to name two.

"Obama has reached out to work with the GOP..."

Oh, you mean when Obamacare was being debated? Obama thumbed his nose at GOP House and Senate members pushing for that unconstitutional issue through, over the objection of all GOP in the House and Senate.

"There is something especially rancid about the never ending efforts to turn President Obama into a stranger, an alien, a manchurian candidate, with a diabolical hidden agenda..."

Obama has changed himself into a stranger... Rather, he came to the White House as a stranger to our American way of life. He comes with the mentality of a stranger and a foreigner... having acquired his basic view from his Nigerian father and Indonesian step-father.

Alfred
Salt Lake City, UT

@A1994:

It is a story of being burned by... putting up candidates that can't possibly win (Bob Dole)..."

Republicans don't put up losing candidates like Dole, and McCain. The Democrats have devised a clever tactic of deciding who the GOP candidates will be by invading GOP caucuses and voting in Republican primaries. They (help) put up someone who they are confident their Democrat candidate can beat. They're doing it again this time around with Santorum. Clever.

"The idea of going into a war (Iraq) to deal with an imminent threat makes sense to conservatives."

The idea of going to war in Iraq had little or nothing to do with imminent threats. It had to do with protecting our oil source in Kuwait and Kuwait's neighbor, Saudi Arabia. And, by the way, pulling out of Iraq only means that threat to return.

Thinkman
Provo, UT

Bob you got bumped from getting the nomination because you espoused big government solutions that got us in this mess we are in with a $15 trillion debt.

You said in 1992 that you would serve one term.

You are out of touch with your voters and that is why you are out. You believe in centralized governmental control which is what the Democrat party and Bush/Rockfeller/Bennett/ types believe in from the Republican party.

We need radical solutions that hand power back to the states and which greatly curb the entitlements that FDR, LBJ, Clinton, GW and BHO have heaped on the American people. You were an enabler to these policies and part of the problem and getting you out of office was way overdue.

Brother Chuck Schroeder
A Tropical Paradise USA, FL

Re: Esquire
Springville, UT
Please, there is no war on religion.

Reply: If you say so, but I disagree. Excommunicated by GOP, Bob Bennett says Romney, religion, economy make 2012 election unique?. I see "NOTHING" unique about it. Obama's readiness to apologize for an apparently accidental Koran-burning incident is a signal of weakness that actually incites further unrest, former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton says. Nice people. Iranian rhetoric is spewing more vitriol amid speculation about whether Israel is planning a possible strike against the Islamic republic's nuclear facilities. The Iranian saber-rattling comes amid speculation that Israel might strike pre-emptively to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. Iran's warriors are ready and willing to wipe Israel off the map, the Iranian Deputy Defense Minister Ahmad Vahidi was saying. Obama said he understands that rising prices are making people worried and fearful. Especially in his re-election campaign. They're really fearful. Rick Santorum is claiming that Mitt Romney and Ron Paul have teamed up against him. Which is kind of ironic that Santorum can be brought down by two men forming a civil union. Who needs the Middle East's oil anyway. The reality is earth contains only so much fossil fuel. So the solution is obvious. If oil comes from fossils, then we should genetically engineer more dinosaurs. What could possibly go wrong?. As bad as gas prices are here, the situation is worse in Europe. I'll tell you why. Because every time Europeans fill up their tank, they expose their unshaven armpits, releasing deadly toxic gases. Rick Santorum says President Barack Obama's apology for the burning of Qurans in Afghanistan was a mistake that demonstrates the president's "weakness." Santorum contends that Obama only should have acknowledged it was wrong instead of saying he was sorry. Is Afghanistan apologizing for killing off our Military troops yet?. Bob Bennett continues to live in his Senatorial fantasy world, where the "elits" are annoited with power and the stupid people who elected them are to be manipulated more.

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