To "red state pride" if you paid $10,000 for each child being born, you
either had significant complications with each child (not a standard birth) or
else blindly paid medical bills without making sure that the fees were
legitimate.My most expensive child cost me about $2000. One child
only cost me $700 for the birth.The problem is that if we turned the
system over to the government, we would end up with women giving birth in
elevators, bathrooms, and offices at the hospital like what is currently
occuring in England.Also, consider this. Is it easier to say to
your child, the insurance is maxed out so I will have to pay out of pocket and
things will be tight than it will be to say that the Government doesn't have the
money to pay for the medical bills and the state hospital won't accept a
Surely, our governor can't be that naive. He has to recognize that the Obama
adminsitration has nothing but disgust for us since our state won't capitulate
to this massive social engineneer project called the Affordable Healthcare Act.
Sebellius and the HHS thugs are vindicting the fact that Utah has never
supported his agenda and never will. As far as I see it, Governor Herbert is
well within his prerogatives to expose the double standard, but to expect
consideration from this group is a a bit of stretch.
Isn't Utah in litigation against the federal government on this and/or related
issues? Maybe Utah's obstreperousness and having no voice in a non-Republican
world has an effect.Bit "ugottabkidn" is right that it is
time for a single payer health insurance system. And it is more than
@shaun- where is it written that life is fair? Never has been, never will be.
@Red state pride. Ten grand a piece for two births is nothing for health care.
There are people who owe over six figures.I think people paying out
of pocket would lower some cost but would they be healthier or just putting off
healthcare problems because they can't really afford it? Then they end up
needing major surgery or hospitalization later on that they can not afford and
we are back to square one.
Good ideas Governor, but if they are approved the real purpose of the Affordable
Care Act, which is make health care policy only in Washington will be subverted.
Good luck with that meeting with the Secretary. Time would be better spent
finding a way to make sure she is not in that position come 2013.
I am so tired of hearing about healthcare. America is being bankrupted by
healthcare. The Government was responsible for over half of all healthcare
spending before Obamacare and is on the path to 100 percent. If you think it was
expensive before then just wait. You want to know why it costs so much Shaun?
Because no one pays out of pocket - it's all third party payments so there is no
market mechanism to hold down costs. There will be a mechanism in the future-
it's called IPAB. Unelected bureaucrats will decide what treatment you get. Good
luck with that. In Quebec (that promised land of universal healthcare)
eighty percent of revenue goes to health spending. How's that going to work out
in America when 20% of revenue already goes to service the debt? Explain how
that's going to work financially. I live in Cottonwood Heights but I'm by
no means "rich". I paid close to ten thousand dollars each in medical
expenses when my two children were born. I didn't whine about it or ask the govt
for the money. I paid it myself and one I had to finance for awhile. So I don't
have a soft spot for bleedin' heart stories.
Living in Cottonwood Heights we can't expect red state pride to understand the
plight of the poor but one thing is certain. Medicaid costs will soar with
Utah's abstinence only law. Otherwise step back a moment and look at the big
picture. Healthcare will be 50% of our GNP in 20 years. You should hope the
Affordable Healthcare Act is only a step in the right direction of a single
healthcare program. Please don't tell me we can't afford it because we are
already spending more than enough to pay for it.
@Red State Pride. I have no problem with paying medicare or medicaid. There are
people who need help. I think the system has flaws but as far as I am concerned
the real problem is the captialist part of equation. Why does asprin cost 20
dollars a pill in the hospital? Because they are like any other business and
they need to maximize profits. Trying to explain to an eight year
old that their mom is going to die because she reached her cap on insurance and
dad can't afford to pay the hospital bills so the doctors and ceo's can drive
porches and live in big houses is difficult.Healthcare is out of
control. Some people blame it on regulations(name some). I blame it on the fact
hospitals, doctors, drug companies know that we need them more than then they
How about rolling medicaid and medicare into a single payer health system
(health care, not health insurance), properly funded and available to all?
I really liked this opinion piece by the Guv. We tried to tell the American
people that the "affordable care act" was going to be a nightmare for
this Country. We are officially subjects to Kathleen Sebelius now. They've taken
away part of the first amendment (freedom of religion) so what's to stop them
from taking the freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, right to petition for
the redress of grievances, right to bear arms and so on. There is really
no reason to have elected State Governments anymore. They may as well just
appoint Czars from Washington to manage our affairs. They do not trust
individuals or their elected representatives at state level to make
decisions. Shaun- you may be concerned about the "needy" but I
say put your money where your mouth is because the new Medicaid requirements are
going to cost every citizen more in taxes. There is no way around that. Kathleen
Sebelius knows how to spend your money wisely.
Maybe the feds see a pattern with the utah government. Parking garages, soccer
stadiums, and roads get funded, all while the state makes cuts to services to
the most in need.Gov. Herbert might be right(Never thought I would
say that) but does anyone really believe the republicans in this state are out
to help anyone but themselves?